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stilllearning 05-09-2007 09:37 PM

Jackstand position under a jeep
 
The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
at the front, back or both.

So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


DougW 05-09-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


All depends on what your trying to do.

Generally axle tubes are too weak to support the vehicles weight
and putting a jack under the diff can bend the weaker axles.

When I have to jack under the axle tubes I do so right next
to where the struts tie in. Otherwise it's frame with jack
stands under the axle tubes as support.

--
DougW



DougW 05-09-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


All depends on what your trying to do.

Generally axle tubes are too weak to support the vehicles weight
and putting a jack under the diff can bend the weaker axles.

When I have to jack under the axle tubes I do so right next
to where the struts tie in. Otherwise it's frame with jack
stands under the axle tubes as support.

--
DougW



DougW 05-09-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


All depends on what your trying to do.

Generally axle tubes are too weak to support the vehicles weight
and putting a jack under the diff can bend the weaker axles.

When I have to jack under the axle tubes I do so right next
to where the struts tie in. Otherwise it's frame with jack
stands under the axle tubes as support.

--
DougW



DougW 05-09-2007 09:41 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


All depends on what your trying to do.

Generally axle tubes are too weak to support the vehicles weight
and putting a jack under the diff can bend the weaker axles.

When I have to jack under the axle tubes I do so right next
to where the struts tie in. Otherwise it's frame with jack
stands under the axle tubes as support.

--
DougW



nrs 05-10-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
vehicle at that point.


nrs 05-10-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
vehicle at that point.


nrs 05-10-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
vehicle at that point.


nrs 05-10-2007 09:16 AM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?


Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
vehicle at that point.


DougW 05-10-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
nrs wrote:
> On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>> at the front, back or both.
>>
>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
> that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
> vehicle at that point.


Same with the D35 in the ZJs

--
DougW



DougW 05-10-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
nrs wrote:
> On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>> at the front, back or both.
>>
>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
> that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
> vehicle at that point.


Same with the D35 in the ZJs

--
DougW



DougW 05-10-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
nrs wrote:
> On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>> at the front, back or both.
>>
>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
> that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
> vehicle at that point.


Same with the D35 in the ZJs

--
DougW



DougW 05-10-2007 04:45 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
nrs wrote:
> On May 9, 8:37 pm, stilllearning <shahs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>> at the front, back or both.
>>
>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> Do you have the aluminum center section D44? If so, the issue is that
> that center section is weak so Jeep warns agains supporting the
> vehicle at that point.


Same with the D35 in the ZJs

--
DougW



Lon 05-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning proclaimed:

> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?
>


The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.

Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
bent axle.

Lon 05-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning proclaimed:

> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?
>


The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.

Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
bent axle.

Lon 05-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning proclaimed:

> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?
>


The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.

Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
bent axle.

Lon 05-10-2007 10:25 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning proclaimed:

> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> at the front, back or both.
>
> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?
>


The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.

Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
bent axle.

stilllearning 05-17-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> stilllearning proclaimed:
>
> > The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> > the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> > the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> > at the front, back or both.

>
> > So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>
> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
> bent axle.


Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?


stilllearning 05-17-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> stilllearning proclaimed:
>
> > The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> > the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> > the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> > at the front, back or both.

>
> > So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>
> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
> bent axle.


Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?


stilllearning 05-17-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> stilllearning proclaimed:
>
> > The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> > the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> > the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> > at the front, back or both.

>
> > So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>
> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
> bent axle.


Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?


stilllearning 05-17-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
> stilllearning proclaimed:
>
> > The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
> > the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
> > the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
> > at the front, back or both.

>
> > So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>
> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>
> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
> bent axle.


Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?


Mike Romain 05-17-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> stilllearning proclaimed:
>>
>>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>>> at the front, back or both.
>>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>>
>> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
>> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
>> bent axle.

>
> Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
> placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
> to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
> ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
> ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
> axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
> remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
> under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?
>


If the owners manual points to a spot on the axle to use, then go for
it. Letting the axle hang on a frame stand (axle stand under the frame)
is how folks change springs and shocks.

Jacking at the end of the tube means the axle stands have to be inboard
of that or it would mean you jack on the center diff and set the stands
outboard which will wreck the poor things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-17-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> stilllearning proclaimed:
>>
>>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>>> at the front, back or both.
>>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>>
>> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
>> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
>> bent axle.

>
> Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
> placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
> to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
> ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
> ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
> axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
> remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
> under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?
>


If the owners manual points to a spot on the axle to use, then go for
it. Letting the axle hang on a frame stand (axle stand under the frame)
is how folks change springs and shocks.

Jacking at the end of the tube means the axle stands have to be inboard
of that or it would mean you jack on the center diff and set the stands
outboard which will wreck the poor things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-17-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> stilllearning proclaimed:
>>
>>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>>> at the front, back or both.
>>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>>
>> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
>> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
>> bent axle.

>
> Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
> placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
> to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
> ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
> ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
> axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
> remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
> under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?
>


If the owners manual points to a spot on the axle to use, then go for
it. Letting the axle hang on a frame stand (axle stand under the frame)
is how folks change springs and shocks.

Jacking at the end of the tube means the axle stands have to be inboard
of that or it would mean you jack on the center diff and set the stands
outboard which will wreck the poor things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 05-17-2007 03:34 PM

Re: Jackstand position under a jeep
 
stilllearning wrote:
> On May 10, 10:25 pm, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> stilllearning proclaimed:
>>
>>> The factory manual specifically mentions not place jackstands under
>>> the axle tubes of a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Can someone explain what is
>>> the issue? The axle seem like an ideal location for lifting the jeep
>>> at the front, back or both.
>>> So, should I place jackstands under the frame only?

>> The manual shows the jacking points. There is no frame on the Grand.
>>
>> Or you could put the jacks under the axle on both sides if you want a
>> quick way to drop the height an inch or so and don't mind the noise of a
>> bent axle.

>
> Why then does the owner's manual mention that the stock jack should be
> placed under the axle when changing tires? Could it be that it is OK
> to use the axle as a lift point for a short time? I find that my 2 1/2
> ton hydraulic jack does not go high enough to lift the tire off the
> ground when I jack under the frame. I would like to jack under the
> axle; put a jackstand under the frame, remove the wheel and then
> remove the jack from under the axle so the jeep rests on the jackstand
> under the frame. Can this potentially damage the axle?
>


If the owners manual points to a spot on the axle to use, then go for
it. Letting the axle hang on a frame stand (axle stand under the frame)
is how folks change springs and shocks.

Jacking at the end of the tube means the axle stands have to be inboard
of that or it would mean you jack on the center diff and set the stands
outboard which will wreck the poor things.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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