Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

Got a little problem that's kind of driving me nuts. Could be a real
safety problem, too. Once in a while, after switching the turn signal
lever to indicate a left turn and only after I hit the brakes, the
signal "freezes" (i.e. the signal light on the instrument cluster
glows steadily.. doesn't flash). I also know that when this happens,
the directional light on the rear end also stops flashing but stays
lit. After reading another post in this group about the little
soldered contacts on the bulbs wearing down, I've replaced all the
bulbs in the rear. The front bulbs look ok. I also removed as much
of the plastic around the steering column off that I could, and shot
some electric contact cleaner into the signal mechanism... all without
any positive result.

Additionally, when I want to use the "lane change" feature for the
right directional, this doesn't work.

Any ideas or tips would be appreciated.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ

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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal lever
a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.

Jerry
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"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@home@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Got a little problem that's kind of driving me nuts. Could be a real
> safety problem, too. Once in a while, after switching the turn signal
> lever to indicate a left turn and only after I hit the brakes, the
> signal "freezes" (i.e. the signal light on the instrument cluster
> glows steadily.. doesn't flash). I also know that when this happens,
> the directional light on the rear end also stops flashing but stays
> lit. After reading another post in this group about the little
> soldered contacts on the bulbs wearing down, I've replaced all the
> bulbs in the rear. The front bulbs look ok. I also removed as much
> of the plastic around the steering column off that I could, and shot
> some electric contact cleaner into the signal mechanism... all without
> any positive result.
>
> Additionally, when I want to use the "lane change" feature for the
> right directional, this doesn't work.
>
> Any ideas or tips would be appreciated.
>
> Mark
> '98 TJ
> '98 XJ
>
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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal lever
a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.

Jerry
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"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@home@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Got a little problem that's kind of driving me nuts. Could be a real
> safety problem, too. Once in a while, after switching the turn signal
> lever to indicate a left turn and only after I hit the brakes, the
> signal "freezes" (i.e. the signal light on the instrument cluster
> glows steadily.. doesn't flash). I also know that when this happens,
> the directional light on the rear end also stops flashing but stays
> lit. After reading another post in this group about the little
> soldered contacts on the bulbs wearing down, I've replaced all the
> bulbs in the rear. The front bulbs look ok. I also removed as much
> of the plastic around the steering column off that I could, and shot
> some electric contact cleaner into the signal mechanism... all without
> any positive result.
>
> Additionally, when I want to use the "lane change" feature for the
> right directional, this doesn't work.
>
> Any ideas or tips would be appreciated.
>
> Mark
> '98 TJ
> '98 XJ
>
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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:25:34 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
>its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal lever
>a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.
>
>Jerry

Jerry,

The lever returns to normal after making the turn. No problem there.
What I'm talking about is this:
Gonna make a left turn,
Hit the signal lever to indicate left turn,
Then apply brakes (i.e. brake lights now lighting),
Left signal "freezes" (light stays lit, does not flash on instrument
cluster or at tail light) until I let off the brake.
It does it intermittently. I can go most of the day without a
problem, then the next time I'm about to turn left...

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:25:34 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
>its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal lever
>a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.
>
>Jerry

Jerry,

The lever returns to normal after making the turn. No problem there.
What I'm talking about is this:
Gonna make a left turn,
Hit the signal lever to indicate left turn,
Then apply brakes (i.e. brake lights now lighting),
Left signal "freezes" (light stays lit, does not flash on instrument
cluster or at tail light) until I let off the brake.
It does it intermittently. I can go most of the day without a
problem, then the next time I'm about to turn left...

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

Man if you don't want to try what I'm suggesting, then don't. But trust
me... even if it appears to be returning to dead-center after a turn, and it
WILL appear to do so, it's not returning completely. This is a VERY well
known problem with the turn signal switch.

Jerry
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"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@home@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:25:34 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>
> >It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
> >its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal
lever
> >a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.
> >
> >Jerry
>
> Jerry,
>
> The lever returns to normal after making the turn. No problem there.
> What I'm talking about is this:
> Gonna make a left turn,
> Hit the signal lever to indicate left turn,
> Then apply brakes (i.e. brake lights now lighting),
> Left signal "freezes" (light stays lit, does not flash on instrument
> cluster or at tail light) until I let off the brake.
> It does it intermittently. I can go most of the day without a
> problem, then the next time I'm about to turn left...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

Man if you don't want to try what I'm suggesting, then don't. But trust
me... even if it appears to be returning to dead-center after a turn, and it
WILL appear to do so, it's not returning completely. This is a VERY well
known problem with the turn signal switch.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
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"M. E. Bye" <fxdyna@home@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:25:34 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
> <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:
>
> >It's only a minor issue with the turnsignal switch not fully returning to
> >its center position. Next time it does it, just nudge the turnsignal
lever
> >a tad back towards the center and it'll be fine.
> >
> >Jerry
>
> Jerry,
>
> The lever returns to normal after making the turn. No problem there.
> What I'm talking about is this:
> Gonna make a left turn,
> Hit the signal lever to indicate left turn,
> Then apply brakes (i.e. brake lights now lighting),
> Left signal "freezes" (light stays lit, does not flash on instrument
> cluster or at tail light) until I let off the brake.
> It does it intermittently. I can go most of the day without a
> problem, then the next time I'm about to turn left...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:45:54 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>Man if you don't want to try what I'm suggesting, then don't. But trust
>me... even if it appears to be returning to dead-center after a turn, and it
>WILL appear to do so, it's not returning completely. This is a VERY well
>known problem with the turn signal switch.
>
>Jerry

I experimented with it a bit in the driveway just now, and that seems
to be the fix, but what about the right directional "lane change"
function? That seems to be something else.

Thanks.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ

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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:45:54 -0700, "Jerry Bransford"
<jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote:

>Man if you don't want to try what I'm suggesting, then don't. But trust
>me... even if it appears to be returning to dead-center after a turn, and it
>WILL appear to do so, it's not returning completely. This is a VERY well
>known problem with the turn signal switch.
>
>Jerry

I experimented with it a bit in the driveway just now, and that seems
to be the fix, but what about the right directional "lane change"
function? That seems to be something else.

Thanks.

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ

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Re: Intermittent Turn Signal-Brake Light Problem
 

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:07:08 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>You sound like you are describing a bad signal light switch.
>
>The switch is supposed to cut off the brake light signal when the
>blinkers are on. It isn't doing it consistently. I have heard of that
>before. Maybe just needs a clean?
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Thanks, Mike.

Where is the signal light switch located?

Mark
'98 TJ
'98 XJ


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