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The Merg 01-04-2007 12:51 AM

Intake w/ conical filter
 
I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
do it in the YJ later, if this works out)

I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
compartment space.
Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
filter placement?

Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
before jumping into this?

Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
engine until the engine warms up.

The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.

Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
engine.

I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
water intake.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
engine until the engine warms up.

The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.

Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
engine.

I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
water intake.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
engine until the engine warms up.

The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.

Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
engine.

I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
water intake.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Earle Horton 01-04-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
The Turbo City RockIt! air tube that I have directs the intake right to the
top of the valve cover. This works well with the four cylinder engine in
all types of weather. I am not so sure it would be a good idea with the six
cylinder engine because of the increased heat that that engine produces, but
the folks at Turbo City say it works well. You can look at pictures of all
the products on their web site at www.turbocity.com. The intake goes
straight up, makes a bend, and ends to place the filter over the top of the
valve cover. If you are concerned about intake air temperature you could
fabricate something like this and put a hood scoop over the top of it, like
the muscle cars in the sixties used to have. I am skeptical of ram air
claims by Pontiac and others, but if well done it looks cool.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167889871.817717.80390@q40g2000cwq.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>




Earle Horton 01-04-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
The Turbo City RockIt! air tube that I have directs the intake right to the
top of the valve cover. This works well with the four cylinder engine in
all types of weather. I am not so sure it would be a good idea with the six
cylinder engine because of the increased heat that that engine produces, but
the folks at Turbo City say it works well. You can look at pictures of all
the products on their web site at www.turbocity.com. The intake goes
straight up, makes a bend, and ends to place the filter over the top of the
valve cover. If you are concerned about intake air temperature you could
fabricate something like this and put a hood scoop over the top of it, like
the muscle cars in the sixties used to have. I am skeptical of ram air
claims by Pontiac and others, but if well done it looks cool.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167889871.817717.80390@q40g2000cwq.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>




Earle Horton 01-04-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
The Turbo City RockIt! air tube that I have directs the intake right to the
top of the valve cover. This works well with the four cylinder engine in
all types of weather. I am not so sure it would be a good idea with the six
cylinder engine because of the increased heat that that engine produces, but
the folks at Turbo City say it works well. You can look at pictures of all
the products on their web site at www.turbocity.com. The intake goes
straight up, makes a bend, and ends to place the filter over the top of the
valve cover. If you are concerned about intake air temperature you could
fabricate something like this and put a hood scoop over the top of it, like
the muscle cars in the sixties used to have. I am skeptical of ram air
claims by Pontiac and others, but if well done it looks cool.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167889871.817717.80390@q40g2000cwq.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>
> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> compartment space.
> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> filter placement?
>
> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> before jumping into this?
>
> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always
>




The Merg 01-04-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/



Mike Romain wrote:
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >
> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > compartment space.
> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > filter placement?
> >
> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > before jumping into this?
> >
> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always



The Merg 01-04-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/



Mike Romain wrote:
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >
> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > compartment space.
> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > filter placement?
> >
> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > before jumping into this?
> >
> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always



The Merg 01-04-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/



Mike Romain wrote:
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >
> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > compartment space.
> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > filter placement?
> >
> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > before jumping into this?
> >
> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always



The Merg 01-04-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.


Any chance of a picture of this?


The Merg 01-04-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.


Any chance of a picture of this?


The Merg 01-04-2007 01:07 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.


Any chance of a picture of this?


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I will look around, I know I have seen a photo, just not sure in which
album it is in.

I believe he just used basic 1 1/2" black ABS plumbing drain fittings
and pipe to swing the opening straight up and then he put a 90 on top
pointed back just at the hood level.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.

>
> Any chance of a picture of this?


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I will look around, I know I have seen a photo, just not sure in which
album it is in.

I believe he just used basic 1 1/2" black ABS plumbing drain fittings
and pipe to swing the opening straight up and then he put a 90 on top
pointed back just at the hood level.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.

>
> Any chance of a picture of this?


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 01:39 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I will look around, I know I have seen a photo, just not sure in which
album it is in.

I believe he just used basic 1 1/2" black ABS plumbing drain fittings
and pipe to swing the opening straight up and then he put a 90 on top
pointed back just at the hood level.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

The Merg wrote:
>
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.

>
> Any chance of a picture of this?


Earle Horton 01-04-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
enhancements.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
>

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then

fabbing
> > > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > > compartment space.
> > > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > > filter placement?
> > >
> > > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > > before jumping into this?
> > >
> > > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




Earle Horton 01-04-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
enhancements.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
>

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then

fabbing
> > > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > > compartment space.
> > > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > > filter placement?
> > >
> > > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > > before jumping into this?
> > >
> > > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




Earle Horton 01-04-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
enhancements.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
>

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> > > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then

fabbing
> > > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> > > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> > > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> > > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> > > compartment space.
> > > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> > > filter placement?
> > >
> > > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> > > before jumping into this?
> > >
> > > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




The Merg 01-04-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle



I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.

The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?

I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.

By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.

Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.

Thanks guys


The Merg 01-04-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle



I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.

The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?

I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.

By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.

Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.

Thanks guys


The Merg 01-04-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> enhancements.
>
> Earle



I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
fine at the moment.

The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
while trying to remove the CCV.
check engine codes were 22 and 54.
Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
temperature sensor
Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
that would cause the code 54?

I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
of all three vehicles.

By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
retry the 4wd.

Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.

Thanks guys


The Merg 01-04-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.


The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle

>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys



The Merg 01-04-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.


The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle

>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys



The Merg 01-04-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Oh yeah, the ZJ is a '95. It won't maintain idle most of the time, but
will run fine with a little prodding from the gas pedal.


The Merg wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > In your place, I would be giving both vehicles a thorough inspection and/or
> > overhaul of all automotive systems instead of thinking about performance
> > enhancements.
> >
> > Earle

>
>
> I'm in the middle of that with the XJ - the YJ is running perfectly
> fine at the moment.
>
> The ZJ is having CCV troubles as far as I can tell, I cleaned it today
> but I need to replace the hose, which my dad snapped in the middle
> while trying to remove the CCV.
> check engine codes were 22 and 54.
> Code 22: Coolant sensor voltage too high or too low. Test Coolant
> temperature sensor
> Code 54: No camshaft position sensor signal from distributor. Problem
> with the distributor synchronization circuit. -
> The distributor cap, spark plugs, and wires were changed a month or two
> or three ago - could something have been screwed up in the installation
> that would cause the code 54?
>
> I'm going to get some TB cleaner tomorrow and do a thorough going over
> of all three vehicles.
>
> By the way, I finally took a look down below at the TC and found out I
> was right - the TC shift linkage was unhooked right before it enters
> the case. The bushing was pretty messed up, so I'm going to replace
> that and, after the power steering pump goes in tomorrow morning, I'll
> retry the 4wd.
>
> Earle, as usual I'm just asking questions, trying to get a feel for
> things. I appreciate the help and patience wholeheartedly.
>
> Thanks guys



c 01-04-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.

Chris

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




c 01-04-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.

Chris

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




c 01-04-2007 06:51 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
I'm not saying yay or nay to the modification, but there are other conical
filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled
filters work better than the K&N oiled filters.

Chris

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167933925.998785.289600@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com...
> Scratch all this - Billy Ray showed me the error of my ways:
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ilter%20Tests/
>
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
>> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
>> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
>> engine until the engine warms up.
>>
>> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>>
>> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
>> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
>> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
>> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
>> engine.
>>
>> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
>> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
>> water intake.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> The Merg wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> > thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> > some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> > do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>> >
>> > I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> > should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> > seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> > compartment space.
>> > Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> > filter placement?
>> >
>> > Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> > before jumping into this?
>> >
>> > Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always

>




Matt Macchiarolo 01-04-2007 08:52 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always




Matt Macchiarolo 01-04-2007 08:52 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always




Matt Macchiarolo 01-04-2007 08:52 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> engine until the engine warms up.
>
> The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
>
> Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> engine.
>
> I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> water intake.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> The Merg wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
>> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
>> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
>> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
>>
>> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
>> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
>> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
>> compartment space.
>> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
>> filter placement?
>>
>> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
>> before jumping into this?
>>
>> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always




The Merg 01-04-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?


This is a '92 with the 4.0L, so it is fuel injected - even if it needs
a heat pipe, etc, I still think I can modify the hose to accept any
necessary hoses.

>there are other conical filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
>Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled filters work better than >the K&N oiled filters.


AEM Brute Force Intake Systems advertises as not needing oil. It's
also the only one I've ever seen that offers one an intake system for
the 2.5L YJ. I just assumed that not needing oil just meant easier
maintenance.
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Parts-Tops-a...RT218304C.aspx


The Merg 01-04-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?


This is a '92 with the 4.0L, so it is fuel injected - even if it needs
a heat pipe, etc, I still think I can modify the hose to accept any
necessary hoses.

>there are other conical filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
>Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled filters work better than >the K&N oiled filters.


AEM Brute Force Intake Systems advertises as not needing oil. It's
also the only one I've ever seen that offers one an intake system for
the 2.5L YJ. I just assumed that not needing oil just meant easier
maintenance.
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Parts-Tops-a...RT218304C.aspx


The Merg 01-04-2007 09:49 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?


This is a '92 with the 4.0L, so it is fuel injected - even if it needs
a heat pipe, etc, I still think I can modify the hose to accept any
necessary hoses.

>there are other conical filters other than K&N, including some that don't require the oil.
>Supposedly (I haven't found any tests on the web yet) these non-oiled filters work better than >the K&N oiled filters.


AEM Brute Force Intake Systems advertises as not needing oil. It's
also the only one I've ever seen that offers one an intake system for
the 2.5L YJ. I just assumed that not needing oil just meant easier
maintenance.
http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Parts-Tops-a...RT218304C.aspx


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 09:54 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
My 88 Cherokee 4.0 has one... I thought they all did.

Mike

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> >> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> >> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> >> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> >> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> >> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> >> compartment space.
> >> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> >> filter placement?
> >>
> >> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> >> before jumping into this?
> >>
> >> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 09:54 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
My 88 Cherokee 4.0 has one... I thought they all did.

Mike

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> >> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> >> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> >> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> >> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> >> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> >> compartment space.
> >> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> >> filter placement?
> >>
> >> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> >> before jumping into this?
> >>
> >> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


Mike Romain 01-04-2007 09:54 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
My 88 Cherokee 4.0 has one... I thought they all did.

Mike

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Mike, didn't heat pipes go out with electronic fuel injection?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:459D1C6E.8CFBEA96@sympatico.ca...
> > You will then have extremely poor cold performance in the winter if you
> > see freezing temperatures. The stock air box has a heat pipe that goes
> > to a heat stove around one exhaust manifold. This feeds warm air to the
> > engine until the engine warms up.
> >
> > The vehicle also needs the stock air box to pass emissions.
> >
> > Some of these air boxes in YJ's were really nasty for off road. Some
> > have a ram air scoop just under the headlight for forced cold air
> > intake. It also forces water intake if you splash any up over the
> > bumper or if you cover the bumper with water it will hydrolock the
> > engine.
> >
> > I know some YJ owners that have used ABS pipe on the stock air box to
> > aim the intake up to the top of the air filter and pointed back to stop
> > water intake.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking at putting a cone filter in the '92 XJ (4.0L). I was
> >> thinking of hitting the junkyard for the longer 2.5L hose, then fabbing
> >> some sort of cold air hood - though not necessarily right away. (I'll
> >> do it in the YJ later, if this works out)
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if there are certain places in the compartment that I
> >> should direct the filter - are some places better than others? I've
> >> seen pictures of filters in various places, seemingly only w/r/t
> >> compartment space.
> >> Has anyone made their own cold-air hood and how should that affect the
> >> filter placement?
> >>
> >> Or, as usual, is there anything I'm overlooking that I should consider
> >> before jumping into this?
> >>
> >> Thanks guys - appreciate the help, as always


The Merg 01-04-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
This is an interesting take on the cold air intake:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/164442423RJbmfB


The Merg 01-04-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
This is an interesting take on the cold air intake:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/164442423RJbmfB


The Merg 01-04-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Intake w/ conical filter
 
This is an interesting take on the cold air intake:

http://rides.webshots.com/album/164442423RJbmfB



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