Intake manifold removal
 

I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O

I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml

I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
spec?


For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
(____) shape.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
(____) shape.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
(____) shape.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
(____) shape.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
> so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
> square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
> (____) shape.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> ufatbasted wrote:
>> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj
>> 4.O
>>
>> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
>> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
>> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>>
>> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
>> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
>> spec?
>>
>>
>> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>>
>>
>>


So you removed those bolts with the intake manifold on. Did you get them
from the bottom or top?

I must be nuts as I can't even find them all. Going to have to take
another look.

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
> so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
> square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
> (____) shape.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> ufatbasted wrote:
>> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj
>> 4.O
>>
>> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
>> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
>> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>>
>> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
>> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
>> spec?
>>
>>
>> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>>
>>
>>


So you removed those bolts with the intake manifold on. Did you get them
from the bottom or top?

I must be nuts as I can't even find them all. Going to have to take
another look.

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
> so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
> square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
> (____) shape.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> ufatbasted wrote:
>> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj
>> 4.O
>>
>> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
>> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
>> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>>
>> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
>> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
>> spec?
>>
>>
>> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>>
>>
>>


So you removed those bolts with the intake manifold on. Did you get them
from the bottom or top?

I must be nuts as I can't even find them all. Going to have to take
another look.

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> I used a 'wobbler' extension. This has a curved connector to the socket
> so it can be used on about a 30 degree angle. A normal extension has a
> square end something like |____| that. The wobbler is something like
> (____) shape.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> ufatbasted wrote:
>> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj
>> 4.O
>>
>> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
>> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
>> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>>
>> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
>> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
>> spec?
>>
>>
>> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>>
>>
>>


So you removed those bolts with the intake manifold on. Did you get them
from the bottom or top?

I must be nuts as I can't even find them all. Going to have to take
another look.

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Go to the store and buy every length of extension, univeral joint,
wobbler extension, etc that you can find. You will need them all. You
can get to them, they just need exactly the right combination.

ufatbasted wrote:

> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Go to the store and buy every length of extension, univeral joint,
wobbler extension, etc that you can find. You will need them all. You
can get to them, they just need exactly the right combination.

ufatbasted wrote:

> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Go to the store and buy every length of extension, univeral joint,
wobbler extension, etc that you can find. You will need them all. You
can get to them, they just need exactly the right combination.

ufatbasted wrote:

> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

Go to the store and buy every length of extension, univeral joint,
wobbler extension, etc that you can find. You will need them all. You
can get to them, they just need exactly the right combination.

ufatbasted wrote:

> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4, 2, 1
> and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the way.
> Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque them to
> spec?
>
>
> For anyone who has done this how did you remove and torque those 4 bolts?
>
>
>

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my
> 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the
> way. Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque
> them to spec?

By hand, or with a crowfoot and math. When you use an offset on a torque
wrench, you change the torque that is applied depending on how things are
lined up. It's a real pain in the ass. http://www.norbar.com/faqs.php

Keep in mind I'm talking about my ZJ here.

The injector rail doesn't have to come off, just the connections.
But watch the gas, there is quite a bit in there. I went ahead
and took the injectors out, replaced the O rings (use new ones and
lube with motor oil), and cleaned the intake rail, TB, etc.

NOTE: Don't stick things into the injectors spray cone. Let the
noses sit in TB cleaner and shake the dirt off. (that or take them
to any diesel place where they usually have the equipment to clean
and test injectors)

I removed the air box to get in there better. Once all
that stuff and the PS pump is set aside, it's easier to reach in.

The lower bolts I had to do with a box end wrench. Got a feel for
the torque, tested on one I could check with a torque wrench, then
did the lower ones by hand.

http://revbeergoggles.com/banks/

You must get the head clean.. real clean, no stuck on stuff left.
Then use some form-a-gasket Copper. A very thin (suntan lotion thin)
smear on the block and header will help get a good seal. You don't want
so much it oozes out.

I still havd to go back and tighten the bolts at least two more times.

One trick before you put the intake/exhaust back on is to make sure
the gasket doesn't stick into the flow. If it does just cut it back.

--
DougW

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my
> 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the
> way. Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque
> them to spec?

By hand, or with a crowfoot and math. When you use an offset on a torque
wrench, you change the torque that is applied depending on how things are
lined up. It's a real pain in the ass. http://www.norbar.com/faqs.php

Keep in mind I'm talking about my ZJ here.

The injector rail doesn't have to come off, just the connections.
But watch the gas, there is quite a bit in there. I went ahead
and took the injectors out, replaced the O rings (use new ones and
lube with motor oil), and cleaned the intake rail, TB, etc.

NOTE: Don't stick things into the injectors spray cone. Let the
noses sit in TB cleaner and shake the dirt off. (that or take them
to any diesel place where they usually have the equipment to clean
and test injectors)

I removed the air box to get in there better. Once all
that stuff and the PS pump is set aside, it's easier to reach in.

The lower bolts I had to do with a box end wrench. Got a feel for
the torque, tested on one I could check with a torque wrench, then
did the lower ones by hand.

http://revbeergoggles.com/banks/

You must get the head clean.. real clean, no stuck on stuff left.
Then use some form-a-gasket Copper. A very thin (suntan lotion thin)
smear on the block and header will help get a good seal. You don't want
so much it oozes out.

I still havd to go back and tighten the bolts at least two more times.

One trick before you put the intake/exhaust back on is to make sure
the gasket doesn't stick into the flow. If it does just cut it back.

--
DougW

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my
> 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the
> way. Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque
> them to spec?

By hand, or with a crowfoot and math. When you use an offset on a torque
wrench, you change the torque that is applied depending on how things are
lined up. It's a real pain in the ass. http://www.norbar.com/faqs.php

Keep in mind I'm talking about my ZJ here.

The injector rail doesn't have to come off, just the connections.
But watch the gas, there is quite a bit in there. I went ahead
and took the injectors out, replaced the O rings (use new ones and
lube with motor oil), and cleaned the intake rail, TB, etc.

NOTE: Don't stick things into the injectors spray cone. Let the
noses sit in TB cleaner and shake the dirt off. (that or take them
to any diesel place where they usually have the equipment to clean
and test injectors)

I removed the air box to get in there better. Once all
that stuff and the PS pump is set aside, it's easier to reach in.

The lower bolts I had to do with a box end wrench. Got a feel for
the torque, tested on one I could check with a torque wrench, then
did the lower ones by hand.

http://revbeergoggles.com/banks/

You must get the head clean.. real clean, no stuck on stuff left.
Then use some form-a-gasket Copper. A very thin (suntan lotion thin)
smear on the block and header will help get a good seal. You don't want
so much it oozes out.

I still havd to go back and tighten the bolts at least two more times.

One trick before you put the intake/exhaust back on is to make sure
the gasket doesn't stick into the flow. If it does just cut it back.

--
DougW

Re: Intake manifold removal
 

ufatbasted wrote:
> I researching on how to replace my cracked exhasut manifold on my
> 91yj 4.O
>
> I was looking at my rig and could not see how I would remove bolts 4,
> 2, 1 and 5 on the torque specs next to item number 23 on this web page
> http://dailydriventj.com/mfr4.shtml
>
> I could'nt even find those bolts as the intake m aniflod was in the
> way. Also besides removing them how the heck are you able to torque
> them to spec?

By hand, or with a crowfoot and math. When you use an offset on a torque
wrench, you change the torque that is applied depending on how things are
lined up. It's a real pain in the ass. http://www.norbar.com/faqs.php

Keep in mind I'm talking about my ZJ here.

The injector rail doesn't have to come off, just the connections.
But watch the gas, there is quite a bit in there. I went ahead
and took the injectors out, replaced the O rings (use new ones and
lube with motor oil), and cleaned the intake rail, TB, etc.

NOTE: Don't stick things into the injectors spray cone. Let the
noses sit in TB cleaner and shake the dirt off. (that or take them
to any diesel place where they usually have the equipment to clean
and test injectors)

I removed the air box to get in there better. Once all
that stuff and the PS pump is set aside, it's easier to reach in.

The lower bolts I had to do with a box end wrench. Got a feel for
the torque, tested on one I could check with a torque wrench, then
did the lower ones by hand.

http://revbeergoggles.com/banks/

You must get the head clean.. real clean, no stuck on stuff left.
Then use some form-a-gasket Copper. A very thin (suntan lotion thin)
smear on the block and header will help get a good seal. You don't want
so much it oozes out.

I still havd to go back and tighten the bolts at least two more times.

One trick before you put the intake/exhaust back on is to make sure
the gasket doesn't stick into the flow. If it does just cut it back.

--
DougW