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Paul Calman 08-25-2005 06:52 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
> You would probably want to braze that on to a steel pan.
>Mine has a plastic pan so I suppose it could be epoxied.


It's not necessary to braze it, getting it hot enough to risk an oil vapor
flash. I would drain the oil, and solder the fitting on. If you can get your
oil pan over 400 when running it and melt solder, you won't need a temp
guage to tell you it's toast.
I don't know if i would epoxy a sender outside of a plastic pan, it probably
has some insulating properties.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
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Billy Ray wrote:
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Does the light interact with the computer in any way?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Does the light interact with the computer in any way?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Short the prongs if it does. Like we have to do with if say the
windshield washer level when it go south.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Does the light interact with the computer in any way?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.


Bret Ludwig 08-25-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.

AC 43-13-1B!

Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.


Bret Ludwig 08-25-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.

AC 43-13-1B!

Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.


Bret Ludwig 08-25-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.

AC 43-13-1B!

Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.


Bret Ludwig 08-25-2005 08:21 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Knowing the temperature of the oil in the pan is largely irrelevant.
The temperature that matters is the temperature at the outlet of the
oil filter and/or cooler ,i.e. the main oil gallery feed.

AC 43-13-1B!

Dry sumps are great if you have an engine designed to be a dry sump
engine from the start like a Offenheuser, Fairbanks-Morse, or Pratt
and Whitney. The Porsche 911 flat six is the only production car engine
of which I am aware that is designed to run a dry sump. Racers dry sump
production car based racing engines all the time, but they use a small
stacked scavenge pump, such as Weaver Bros. sells, driven by a small
Gilmer belt. This is strictly Mickey Mouse thinking for any vehicle not
subject to constant maintenance like an actual race car. On something
you are going off road with, a dry sump would only be acceptable if the
scavenge and pressure pumps were internal to the engine.


Earle Horton 08-25-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Installing engine oil temperature gauge - TJ
 
Because it is an off-road vehicle, and needs as few wires and gizmos glued
to the bottom, as you can get along without. If you do attach a fitting to
the pan, at least braze it, so it doesn't fall off.

Earle

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:3n6c2bF3c6qU1@individual.net...
> If all you want is oil temp, why not clean an area on the pan below the
> full-line, and epoxy or solder a fitting (pre-attached to sender) in

place?
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>





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