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M O 08-08-2003 11:15 AM

Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
I have an '82 CJ-7 with a dana 30/AMC 20....I have these 2 lockers that have
been sitting in my garage because I don't have the $$$ to get them
"professionally" installed at this time....has anyone installed these in you
driveway/backyard with basic tools? Or, do you need special equipment to
properly have these put in? Since I busted a U-joint in the rear, it has
been parked, and now is my chance.....by the way, I have one more
question....I recently had an NV4500 installed with a dana 300....the whole
setup moved everything back 4-5 inches which caused some stress to the rear
u-joint due to the angle going into the transfer case....can anyone
recommend a u-joint setup that has a little more flex in it to keep it form
breaking again?

I'd appreciate any help....

Thanks,
Mark O.



Fletcher 08-08-2003 02:32 PM

Re: Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
Without experience (but I am mechanically minded) I installed a lockrite in
the dana 30 in about 8 hours. It took a little patience trying to figure
out how it worked, but now that I have seen it once it would be MUCH faster
the second time. You can easily take the cover off, clean it out, and have
a look at what you are about to get yourself into. If you feel like you are
over your head putting the cover back on and adding oil is easy, and if you
still feel confident have at it. I found that I needed to remove both
axles, never done that before, but now I know how. And I also had to remove
the carrier because my gears were to "wide" to get the needed parts out.

"M O" <barzooki@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
news:98PYa.150496$XV.7984582@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> I have an '82 CJ-7 with a dana 30/AMC 20....I have these 2 lockers that

have
> been sitting in my garage because I don't have the $$$ to get them
> "professionally" installed at this time....has anyone installed these in

you
> driveway/backyard with basic tools? Or, do you need special equipment to
> properly have these put in? Since I busted a U-joint in the rear, it has
> been parked, and now is my chance.....by the way, I have one more
> question....I recently had an NV4500 installed with a dana 300....the

whole
> setup moved everything back 4-5 inches which caused some stress to the

rear
> u-joint due to the angle going into the transfer case....can anyone
> recommend a u-joint setup that has a little more flex in it to keep it

form
> breaking again?
>
> I'd appreciate any help....
>
> Thanks,
> Mark O.
>
>





Tyler Dirden 08-08-2003 02:35 PM

Re: Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
Having seen a lockrite installed on a d35 (bad idea) and NOT being very
mechanically inclined, I could do it in a few hours.
td

"Fletcher" <no_email@please.com> wrote in message
news:H1SYa.27221$lb1.5199@fe11.atl2.webusenet.com. ..
> Without experience (but I am mechanically minded) I installed a lockrite

in
> the dana 30 in about 8 hours. It took a little patience trying to figure
> out how it worked, but now that I have seen it once it would be MUCH

faster
> the second time. You can easily take the cover off, clean it out, and

have
> a look at what you are about to get yourself into. If you feel like you

are
> over your head putting the cover back on and adding oil is easy, and if

you
> still feel confident have at it. I found that I needed to remove both
> axles, never done that before, but now I know how. And I also had to

remove
> the carrier because my gears were to "wide" to get the needed parts out.
>
> "M O" <barzooki@satx.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:98PYa.150496$XV.7984582@twister.austin.rr.com ...
> > I have an '82 CJ-7 with a dana 30/AMC 20....I have these 2 lockers that

> have
> > been sitting in my garage because I don't have the $$$ to get them
> > "professionally" installed at this time....has anyone installed these in

> you
> > driveway/backyard with basic tools? Or, do you need special equipment

to
> > properly have these put in? Since I busted a U-joint in the rear, it

has
> > been parked, and now is my chance.....by the way, I have one more
> > question....I recently had an NV4500 installed with a dana 300....the

> whole
> > setup moved everything back 4-5 inches which caused some stress to the

> rear
> > u-joint due to the angle going into the transfer case....can anyone
> > recommend a u-joint setup that has a little more flex in it to keep it

> form
> > breaking again?
> >
> > I'd appreciate any help....
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark O.
> >
> >

>
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-08-2003 03:50 PM

Re: Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
Hi Mark,
You're not changing the ratio, so you're way ahead, and if they're
the "lunch-box" then you won't have to screw with the carrier shims
either. Shouldn't be a problem.
Use a constant velocity universal joint and you'll be able to point
the differential pinion up at the transfer case and double that angle.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

M O wrote:
>
> I have an '82 CJ-7 with a dana 30/AMC 20....I have these 2 lockers that have
> been sitting in my garage because I don't have the $$$ to get them
> "professionally" installed at this time....has anyone installed these in you
> driveway/backyard with basic tools? Or, do you need special equipment to
> properly have these put in? Since I busted a U-joint in the rear, it has
> been parked, and now is my chance.....by the way, I have one more
> question....I recently had an NV4500 installed with a dana 300....the whole
> setup moved everything back 4-5 inches which caused some stress to the rear
> u-joint due to the angle going into the transfer case....can anyone
> recommend a u-joint setup that has a little more flex in it to keep it form
> breaking again?
>
> I'd appreciate any help....
>
> Thanks,
> Mark O.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 08-08-2003 05:17 PM

Re: Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
Hi Jim,
Yes, if the trac-loc is what he's got then he'll have to re-shim it.
BUT, the pinion will stay in the same place, which is what separates the
men form the boys, in how they read the bluing and mic specs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

TJim wrote:
>
> Bill,
> The tru-trac replaces the open carrier. Doesn't that mean he has to
> re-align the gears, even though he's not actually replacing them? He would
> have to unbolt the ring from the carrier and bolt it onto the tru-trac.
> Would the resulting alignment be good enough not to have to go through a
> full setup?
> TJim


TJim 08-08-2003 08:45 PM

Re: Installing Detroit Locker and Tru-trac....
 
OK, thanks, Bill. So it's not so much the alignment, as the depth that
needs to be set. Maybe I'll get real brave and put tru-tracs in my Waggy
next summer. Wish me luck.
TJim

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3F341301.930DAC5E@cox.net...
> Hi Jim,
> Yes, if the trac-loc is what he's got then he'll have to re-shim it.
> BUT, the pinion will stay in the same place, which is what separates the
> men form the boys, in how they read the bluing and mic specs.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> TJim wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > The tru-trac replaces the open carrier. Doesn't that mean he has to
> > re-align the gears, even though he's not actually replacing them? He

would
> > have to unbolt the ring from the carrier and bolt it onto the tru-trac.
> > Would the resulting alignment be good enough not to have to go through a
> > full setup?
> > TJim





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