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24BitŪ 06-06-2007 11:50 PM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 20:15:20 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> Amazingly Replied without Prejudice below:


Pirated Software & Troll

Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
III"

You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
IPs.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
a novelty that gets old.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
just not by me.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/



Fraudulent Tax Reporting

My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:

You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
what they do.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


LIAR

We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
may not own a firearm, nor vote.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

BLASPHEMER

But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
the perverts for all I care.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/



:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a
:>jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of
:>course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
:>Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
:>obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
:>when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
:>elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
:>remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
:>little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
:>me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your
:>statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the morel majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>abuse@4ax.com, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24BitŪ" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:mise6317sfjft98igfrolj2cfbsbevsioq@4ax.com
:>>
:>> Pirated Software & Troll
:>>
:>> Of course I was trolling when I wrote those words. "L.W.(Troll Boy) ------
:>> III"
:>>
:>> You know I've never lied. And I don't use foul language, as that
:>> and cross posting are how I've close many of these anonymous coward's
:>> IPs.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>> I saw my Doctor using a recorder, and asked about the program,
:>> Dragon Naturally Speaking and he gave me a copy, it works as advertised,
:>> a novelty that gets old.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>> I have Auto Cad, too. BFD.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>> They were bought and pay for, over four thousand for my Auto Cad,
:>> just not by me.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>>
:>> Fraudulent Tax Reporting
:>>
:>> My bills of sales are boxed in the year they were entered into my
:>> tax receipts, It would take hours to go though this year's receipts, let
:>> alone going back ten years. Of course you never making enough to pay
:>> taxes, you wouldn't know about that.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>> He calls upon the Lord, who hears him not:
:>>
:>> You know I can relate to Jesus, as I've only done good, yet these
:>> little low lifes persist in persecuting me. Pray for them as they know not
:>> what they do.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>> LIAR
:>>
:>> We don't take wimps like you. Some of our training:
:>>
:>http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...hine+gun&hl=en
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>> It's not required, it's just fun to shoot seven hundred and fifty
:>> bucks a minute. I'd ask what you train with, but you being a felon, you
:>> may not own a firearm, nor vote.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>> BLASPHEMER
:>>
:>> But we talked. Jesus and me, and we decided to make this group a
:>> crusade, and ------ the holy word of our Father.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>> Like Jesus, I write only the truth.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>
:>> I'm happy living my life, for my Lord, Jesus. You can hang with
:>> the perverts for all I care.
:>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>>
:>>

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-07-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a
jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your
statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the morel majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
abuse@4ax.com, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-07-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a
jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your
statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the morel majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
abuse@4ax.com, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-07-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a
jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your
statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the morel majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
abuse@4ax.com, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-07-2007 02:02 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and super Southern California surfing body. What a
jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre, Florida, that of
course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that.
Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat
obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like
when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in
elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to
remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your
statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the morel majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
abuse@4ax.com, abuse@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


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Mike 06-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
Hi ----,

I would start with the stuff you can do/try yourself. DougW's
suggestion for *thoroughly* cleaning your throttle body would be a
start.... in fact if you can remove it from the manifold with out much
fuss that's what I'd do....you'll be able to work on it better and
there will be less chance of flooding/hydro-locking a cylinder with
excess cleaner. If you do clean it on the manifold, then make sure the
engine is warm so any extra cleaner will evaporate quickly. Get a can
of throttle body/throttle plate intake cleaner....this is not carb
cleaner....CRI makes some good stuff (comes in a red spray can).
Intake cleaner is much stronger and will completely dissolve the crud
build up on the throttle plate, the interior of the throttle body and
all the bypass passages. Use a toothbrush to work the cleaner....when
your done you want the inside of your TB to shine and all passages to
be completely clean.

Agree with Doug about the pour-in-the-tank cleaners; overall not too
effective at "deep cleaning" dirty injectors and the best stuff out
there is the Chevron Techron (it runs about $7-$9 a bottle). A little
strategy with it: use 2 bottles in a 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas. Another
"pour it in" elixir to try is SeaFoam. I've tried this stuff (and the
Techron) in my cars and it has helped in some cases and in others not
so much. You *MUST* be outside when you do this. Start with a warm
engine. Disconnect the power brake vacuum hose at the booster unit.
Start the engine....it'll run...it won't be happy but it will run.
Using about 1/3 to 1/2 the can of SeaFoam *slowly* pour it into the
end of the brake booster vacuum hose (you probably will need a small
funnel to do this)....heed the engine...if it sounds like it's about
to quit ease up a bit on your pour but don't stop pouring. Once you
get down to the last 1-2 ounces, then increase the pour rate until you
dump the last of the liquid into the hose. The engine will not sound
good as it sputters and possibly spark knocks a bit....shut the engine
off....it will do some run-on and finally quit. Wait 10 minutes.
Reconnect the vacuum booster hose and pour any remaining SeaFoam into
the gas tank. Now comes the fun part.....and the reason you have to do
this outside....start the engine....at this point enormous amounts of
white smoke will eminate from the tailpipe....this is supposed to
happen. Take a drive until the smoke dissipates.....evaluate your
results. Here's the SeaFoam website:

http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm


Other things I would check are vacuum line connections/hoses....they
do deteriorate and they will cause an air leak creating a momentary
lean condition stumble (that the computer will accomodate for).

If you still have the stumble then at least you've given it your best
shot. In this case I think I would take it to the dealer for the
treatment....unless you have a local shop you know will do the job
thoroughly and correctly for your time and money.

Good luck....

Mike
00XJ


Mike 06-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
Hi ----,

I would start with the stuff you can do/try yourself. DougW's
suggestion for *thoroughly* cleaning your throttle body would be a
start.... in fact if you can remove it from the manifold with out much
fuss that's what I'd do....you'll be able to work on it better and
there will be less chance of flooding/hydro-locking a cylinder with
excess cleaner. If you do clean it on the manifold, then make sure the
engine is warm so any extra cleaner will evaporate quickly. Get a can
of throttle body/throttle plate intake cleaner....this is not carb
cleaner....CRI makes some good stuff (comes in a red spray can).
Intake cleaner is much stronger and will completely dissolve the crud
build up on the throttle plate, the interior of the throttle body and
all the bypass passages. Use a toothbrush to work the cleaner....when
your done you want the inside of your TB to shine and all passages to
be completely clean.

Agree with Doug about the pour-in-the-tank cleaners; overall not too
effective at "deep cleaning" dirty injectors and the best stuff out
there is the Chevron Techron (it runs about $7-$9 a bottle). A little
strategy with it: use 2 bottles in a 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas. Another
"pour it in" elixir to try is SeaFoam. I've tried this stuff (and the
Techron) in my cars and it has helped in some cases and in others not
so much. You *MUST* be outside when you do this. Start with a warm
engine. Disconnect the power brake vacuum hose at the booster unit.
Start the engine....it'll run...it won't be happy but it will run.
Using about 1/3 to 1/2 the can of SeaFoam *slowly* pour it into the
end of the brake booster vacuum hose (you probably will need a small
funnel to do this)....heed the engine...if it sounds like it's about
to quit ease up a bit on your pour but don't stop pouring. Once you
get down to the last 1-2 ounces, then increase the pour rate until you
dump the last of the liquid into the hose. The engine will not sound
good as it sputters and possibly spark knocks a bit....shut the engine
off....it will do some run-on and finally quit. Wait 10 minutes.
Reconnect the vacuum booster hose and pour any remaining SeaFoam into
the gas tank. Now comes the fun part.....and the reason you have to do
this outside....start the engine....at this point enormous amounts of
white smoke will eminate from the tailpipe....this is supposed to
happen. Take a drive until the smoke dissipates.....evaluate your
results. Here's the SeaFoam website:

http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm


Other things I would check are vacuum line connections/hoses....they
do deteriorate and they will cause an air leak creating a momentary
lean condition stumble (that the computer will accomodate for).

If you still have the stumble then at least you've given it your best
shot. In this case I think I would take it to the dealer for the
treatment....unless you have a local shop you know will do the job
thoroughly and correctly for your time and money.

Good luck....

Mike
00XJ


Mike 06-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
Hi ----,

I would start with the stuff you can do/try yourself. DougW's
suggestion for *thoroughly* cleaning your throttle body would be a
start.... in fact if you can remove it from the manifold with out much
fuss that's what I'd do....you'll be able to work on it better and
there will be less chance of flooding/hydro-locking a cylinder with
excess cleaner. If you do clean it on the manifold, then make sure the
engine is warm so any extra cleaner will evaporate quickly. Get a can
of throttle body/throttle plate intake cleaner....this is not carb
cleaner....CRI makes some good stuff (comes in a red spray can).
Intake cleaner is much stronger and will completely dissolve the crud
build up on the throttle plate, the interior of the throttle body and
all the bypass passages. Use a toothbrush to work the cleaner....when
your done you want the inside of your TB to shine and all passages to
be completely clean.

Agree with Doug about the pour-in-the-tank cleaners; overall not too
effective at "deep cleaning" dirty injectors and the best stuff out
there is the Chevron Techron (it runs about $7-$9 a bottle). A little
strategy with it: use 2 bottles in a 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas. Another
"pour it in" elixir to try is SeaFoam. I've tried this stuff (and the
Techron) in my cars and it has helped in some cases and in others not
so much. You *MUST* be outside when you do this. Start with a warm
engine. Disconnect the power brake vacuum hose at the booster unit.
Start the engine....it'll run...it won't be happy but it will run.
Using about 1/3 to 1/2 the can of SeaFoam *slowly* pour it into the
end of the brake booster vacuum hose (you probably will need a small
funnel to do this)....heed the engine...if it sounds like it's about
to quit ease up a bit on your pour but don't stop pouring. Once you
get down to the last 1-2 ounces, then increase the pour rate until you
dump the last of the liquid into the hose. The engine will not sound
good as it sputters and possibly spark knocks a bit....shut the engine
off....it will do some run-on and finally quit. Wait 10 minutes.
Reconnect the vacuum booster hose and pour any remaining SeaFoam into
the gas tank. Now comes the fun part.....and the reason you have to do
this outside....start the engine....at this point enormous amounts of
white smoke will eminate from the tailpipe....this is supposed to
happen. Take a drive until the smoke dissipates.....evaluate your
results. Here's the SeaFoam website:

http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm


Other things I would check are vacuum line connections/hoses....they
do deteriorate and they will cause an air leak creating a momentary
lean condition stumble (that the computer will accomodate for).

If you still have the stumble then at least you've given it your best
shot. In this case I think I would take it to the dealer for the
treatment....unless you have a local shop you know will do the job
thoroughly and correctly for your time and money.

Good luck....

Mike
00XJ


Mike 06-07-2007 09:36 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
Hi ----,

I would start with the stuff you can do/try yourself. DougW's
suggestion for *thoroughly* cleaning your throttle body would be a
start.... in fact if you can remove it from the manifold with out much
fuss that's what I'd do....you'll be able to work on it better and
there will be less chance of flooding/hydro-locking a cylinder with
excess cleaner. If you do clean it on the manifold, then make sure the
engine is warm so any extra cleaner will evaporate quickly. Get a can
of throttle body/throttle plate intake cleaner....this is not carb
cleaner....CRI makes some good stuff (comes in a red spray can).
Intake cleaner is much stronger and will completely dissolve the crud
build up on the throttle plate, the interior of the throttle body and
all the bypass passages. Use a toothbrush to work the cleaner....when
your done you want the inside of your TB to shine and all passages to
be completely clean.

Agree with Doug about the pour-in-the-tank cleaners; overall not too
effective at "deep cleaning" dirty injectors and the best stuff out
there is the Chevron Techron (it runs about $7-$9 a bottle). A little
strategy with it: use 2 bottles in a 1/4 to 1/2 tank of gas. Another
"pour it in" elixir to try is SeaFoam. I've tried this stuff (and the
Techron) in my cars and it has helped in some cases and in others not
so much. You *MUST* be outside when you do this. Start with a warm
engine. Disconnect the power brake vacuum hose at the booster unit.
Start the engine....it'll run...it won't be happy but it will run.
Using about 1/3 to 1/2 the can of SeaFoam *slowly* pour it into the
end of the brake booster vacuum hose (you probably will need a small
funnel to do this)....heed the engine...if it sounds like it's about
to quit ease up a bit on your pour but don't stop pouring. Once you
get down to the last 1-2 ounces, then increase the pour rate until you
dump the last of the liquid into the hose. The engine will not sound
good as it sputters and possibly spark knocks a bit....shut the engine
off....it will do some run-on and finally quit. Wait 10 minutes.
Reconnect the vacuum booster hose and pour any remaining SeaFoam into
the gas tank. Now comes the fun part.....and the reason you have to do
this outside....start the engine....at this point enormous amounts of
white smoke will eminate from the tailpipe....this is supposed to
happen. Take a drive until the smoke dissipates.....evaluate your
results. Here's the SeaFoam website:

http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm


Other things I would check are vacuum line connections/hoses....they
do deteriorate and they will cause an air leak creating a momentary
lean condition stumble (that the computer will accomodate for).

If you still have the stumble then at least you've given it your best
shot. In this case I think I would take it to the dealer for the
treatment....unless you have a local shop you know will do the job
thoroughly and correctly for your time and money.

Good luck....

Mike
00XJ


Dick 06-07-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Injector Cleaning
 
Thanks Mike. Looks like I have some work to do. :-)

----

On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:36:29 -0700, Mike <meerkat23@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>Hi ----,
>
>I would start with the stuff you can do/try yourself. DougW's
>suggestion for *thoroughly* cleaning your throttle body would be a
>start....


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