increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I saw this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826


Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air temperature
sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air temperature
sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air temperature
sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Joshua Nelson did pass the time by typing:
> I saw this on ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Heh.. 9$ for a .03$ resistor. What a scam!

All it does is trick your computer into leaning out the mix. That in itself isn't
a good idea. Although you will get more power you also run a lot hotter and risk
burning out the piston face.

--
DougW

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Joshua Nelson did pass the time by typing:
> I saw this on ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Heh.. 9$ for a .03$ resistor. What a scam!

All it does is trick your computer into leaning out the mix. That in itself isn't
a good idea. Although you will get more power you also run a lot hotter and risk
burning out the piston face.

--
DougW

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Joshua Nelson did pass the time by typing:
> I saw this on ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Heh.. 9$ for a .03$ resistor. What a scam!

All it does is trick your computer into leaning out the mix. That in itself isn't
a good idea. Although you will get more power you also run a lot hotter and risk
burning out the piston face.

--
DougW

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

> I will also give a Guarantee on this, if your modification breaks, I >will
send another one free

How about another engine? Modern engines last much longer now because of the
fuel management systems, rather than any breakthroughs in engine design.
Don't mess with them unless you know what you are doing
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

> I will also give a Guarantee on this, if your modification breaks, I >will
send another one free

How about another engine? Modern engines last much longer now because of the
fuel management systems, rather than any breakthroughs in engine design.
Don't mess with them unless you know what you are doing
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

> I will also give a Guarantee on this, if your modification breaks, I >will
send another one free

How about another engine? Modern engines last much longer now because of the
fuel management systems, rather than any breakthroughs in engine design.
Don't mess with them unless you know what you are doing
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I tried this guy's idea several years ago on my '93 I-6 Wrangler after
reading the appropriate section of the Jeep service manual describing how
the system works. It's kinda like what he says. BUT, not only does it
advance the timing, it also enriches the mixture. So, yes it does work. The
slight downside could be you'll use a little more gas. If you want to get
serious about it, you could use a variable resistor and set it up so you
could change it while your driving!


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:sOudnWbWls71yg2iRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air
temperature
> sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
> make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
> enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
> Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
> none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> > I saw this on ebay:
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=38634&item
=2437356826
> >
> >
> > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> > Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
>

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I tried this guy's idea several years ago on my '93 I-6 Wrangler after
reading the appropriate section of the Jeep service manual describing how
the system works. It's kinda like what he says. BUT, not only does it
advance the timing, it also enriches the mixture. So, yes it does work. The
slight downside could be you'll use a little more gas. If you want to get
serious about it, you could use a variable resistor and set it up so you
could change it while your driving!


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:sOudnWbWls71yg2iRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air
temperature
> sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
> make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
> enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
> Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
> none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> > I saw this on ebay:
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=38634&item
=2437356826
> >
> >
> > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> > Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
>

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I tried this guy's idea several years ago on my '93 I-6 Wrangler after
reading the appropriate section of the Jeep service manual describing how
the system works. It's kinda like what he says. BUT, not only does it
advance the timing, it also enriches the mixture. So, yes it does work. The
slight downside could be you'll use a little more gas. If you want to get
serious about it, you could use a variable resistor and set it up so you
could change it while your driving!


"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:sOudnWbWls71yg2iRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> I've seen tricks like this that physically move the incoming air
temperature
> sensor to the filter box in order to sense cooler air. I'm told it does
> make a difference, although I don't think it changes the timing as much as
> enriches the mixture (maybe both?).
> Buy it, try it, and let us know how it works. (get a dyno test, though.
> none of this, "it seemed to help" stuff.)
>
> --
> Jim
> --
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> > I saw this on ebay:
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ory=38634&item
=2437356826
> >
> >
> > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
> > Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
>

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
> work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
resistor to advance your timing and increase power.

http://tinyurl.com/rded

Earle

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
> work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
resistor to advance your timing and increase power.

http://tinyurl.com/rded

Earle

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
> I saw this on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
> Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
> work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
resistor to advance your timing and increase power.

http://tinyurl.com/rded

Earle

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
wrote:

>I saw this on ebay:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
wrote:

>I saw this on ebay:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
wrote:

>I saw this on ebay:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>
>
>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?

Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Approximately 10/17/03 21:15, bllsht uttered for posterity:

> In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
> wrote:
>
>>I saw this on ebay:
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>>
>>
>>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
> Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
> horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Approximately 10/17/03 21:15, bllsht uttered for posterity:

> In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
> wrote:
>
>>I saw this on ebay:
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>>
>>
>>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
> Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
> horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Approximately 10/17/03 21:15, bllsht uttered for posterity:

> In message <b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.com >, "Joshua Nelson"
> wrote:
>
>>I saw this on ebay:
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
>>
>>
>>Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would work.
>>Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
>
> Better yet, get 3 of 'em and triple your gain! Just think, 36-60 extra
> horsepower for a mere $27! Order now!

Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
unspectacular stop, unharmed.


Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
>>
>> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
>> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>>
>> --
>> My governor can kick your governor's ass


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
unspectacular stop, unharmed.


Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
>>
>> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
>> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>>
>> --
>> My governor can kick your governor's ass


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
unspectacular stop, unharmed.


Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
>>
>> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
>> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
>>
>> --
>> My governor can kick your governor's ass


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I listen the talk show host Art Bell, one night years ago read the
story as if he was there watching the brake drums and tires explode as
the Chevy becomes airborne and smashes into a cliff. I think we where
all laughing as if this might be a good way to go out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
> They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
> rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
> measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
> outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
> unspectacular stop, unharmed.
>
> Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
>
> > http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> >> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I listen the talk show host Art Bell, one night years ago read the
story as if he was there watching the brake drums and tires explode as
the Chevy becomes airborne and smashes into a cliff. I think we where
all laughing as if this might be a good way to go out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
> They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
> rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
> measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
> outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
> unspectacular stop, unharmed.
>
> Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
>
> > http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> >> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

I listen the talk show host Art Bell, one night years ago read the
story as if he was there watching the brake drums and tires explode as
the Chevy becomes airborne and smashes into a cliff. I think we where
all laughing as if this might be a good way to go out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon Stowell wrote:
>
> Recreated recently on Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel.
> They couldn't get real JATO units so they substituted 4
> rocket motors. Bummer, but they didn't have a good speed
> measurement on how fast the Chevy got up to, but it easily
> outran the chase helicopter before coming to a rather
> unspectacular stop, unharmed.
>
> Approximately 10/18/03 11:41, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
>
> > http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin1995-04.html
> >
> > Lon Stowell wrote:
> >>
> >> Heck, just cut the circuit so the resistance goes to infinity
> >> and turn your Jeep into a match for the Jato Chevy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

[coffee spray]

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bmq63d$q1574$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
: "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
: news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
: > I saw this on ebay:
: >
: >
:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
: >
: >
: > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
: > work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
:
: I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
: resistor to advance your timing and increase power.
:
: http://tinyurl.com/rded
:
: Earle
:
:

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

[coffee spray]

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bmq63d$q1574$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
: "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
: news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
: > I saw this on ebay:
: >
: >
:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
: >
: >
: > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
: > work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
:
: I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
: resistor to advance your timing and increase power.
:
: http://tinyurl.com/rded
:
: Earle
:
:

Re: increasing horsepower with a resistor
 

[coffee spray]

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bmq63d$q1574$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
: "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
: news:b102b6e4.0310171159.2694b60b@posting.google.c om...
: > I saw this on ebay:
: >
: >
:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2437356826
: >
: >
: > Seems to good to be true, and I don't understand how it would
: > work. Has anyone had good experience with this modification?
:
: I would seriously advise reading this link before buying anything like a
: resistor to advance your timing and increase power.
:
: http://tinyurl.com/rded
:
: Earle
:
: