Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.

It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.

It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.

It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California

We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California

We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California

We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!