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Lon 03-11-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Is hokay, we can't spell it.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> We don't say potahto !
>
> Quite like the tracked vehicle 1/2 way down this page:
> http://www.amphijeep.biz/4Wheel-Drive.html
>
> Dave
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8380b$45f36196$9440b19b$27656@STARBAND.NET...
>
>>"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:esvmui$rh0$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>>'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website.
>>>Brilliant.
>>>
>>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.amphijeep.biz/

>>
>>Well, I give them a slight pass as they are English, and when I was there

>
> I
>
>>heard a number of strange words, which seemed to be English - almost- but
>>like Eliza Doolittle's cockney accent, in "My Fair Lady," known only to
>>those who live there.
>>
>>We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We
>>say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off.
>>
>>

>
>
>


Lon 03-11-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Is hokay, we can't spell it.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> We don't say potahto !
>
> Quite like the tracked vehicle 1/2 way down this page:
> http://www.amphijeep.biz/4Wheel-Drive.html
>
> Dave
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8380b$45f36196$9440b19b$27656@STARBAND.NET...
>
>>"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:esvmui$rh0$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>>'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website.
>>>Brilliant.
>>>
>>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.amphijeep.biz/

>>
>>Well, I give them a slight pass as they are English, and when I was there

>
> I
>
>>heard a number of strange words, which seemed to be English - almost- but
>>like Eliza Doolittle's cockney accent, in "My Fair Lady," known only to
>>those who live there.
>>
>>We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We
>>say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off.
>>
>>

>
>
>


Lon 03-11-2007 08:54 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Is hokay, we can't spell it.

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> We don't say potahto !
>
> Quite like the tracked vehicle 1/2 way down this page:
> http://www.amphijeep.biz/4Wheel-Drive.html
>
> Dave
>
> "Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
> news:8380b$45f36196$9440b19b$27656@STARBAND.NET...
>
>>"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:esvmui$rh0$1@aioe.org...
>>
>>>'World Class' and they can't even spell correctly on their website.
>>>Brilliant.
>>>
>>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.amphijeep.biz/

>>
>>Well, I give them a slight pass as they are English, and when I was there

>
> I
>
>>heard a number of strange words, which seemed to be English - almost- but
>>like Eliza Doolittle's cockney accent, in "My Fair Lady," known only to
>>those who live there.
>>
>>We say aluminum, they say aluminium. We say potato, they say potahto. We
>>say tomato, they say tomahto. Let's call the whole thing off.
>>
>>

>
>
>


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-11-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-11-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-11-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.




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Bret Ludwig 03-17-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 11, 9:36 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.challengevideos.com/
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d5mdnYN87Y47OWnYnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> > kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.

>


I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.


Bret Ludwig 03-17-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 11, 9:36 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.challengevideos.com/
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d5mdnYN87Y47OWnYnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> > kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.

>


I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.


Bret Ludwig 03-17-2007 11:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 11, 9:36 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> http://www.challengevideos.com/
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:LW------...@aol.comhttp://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d5mdnYN87Y47OWnYnZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > The Caterham is a good one for traditionalists, if you want to really
> > kick corvette butt, build a Turbo Rotus.

>


I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 01:28 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...



Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
Ferrari was there, where was Ford?

Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
wife.

Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
engines to this day.

Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 01:28 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...



Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
Ferrari was there, where was Ford?

Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
wife.

Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
engines to this day.

Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 01:28 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
wrote:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...



Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
Ferrari was there, where was Ford?

Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
wife.

Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
engines to this day.

Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
three in '65 LaMans?
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
> outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
> for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
three in '65 LaMans?
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
> outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
> for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
three in '65 LaMans?
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
> outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
> for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>




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Billzz 03-18-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174195690.117158.9620@e1g2000hsg.googlegroup s.com...
> On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
>> three in '65
>> LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...

>
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


Ow, ow, ow.

I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
Nevada, with two Jeeps.

But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.

I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
else.

I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
will build a replica for only $350K.

This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
interesting.



Billzz 03-18-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174195690.117158.9620@e1g2000hsg.googlegroup s.com...
> On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
>> three in '65
>> LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...

>
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


Ow, ow, ow.

I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
Nevada, with two Jeeps.

But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.

I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
else.

I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
will build a replica for only $350K.

This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
interesting.



Billzz 03-18-2007 02:30 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1174195690.117158.9620@e1g2000hsg.googlegroup s.com...
> On Mar 18, 12:53 am, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III" <billhug...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
>> three in '65
>> LaMans?http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...20le%20mans/65...

>
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.


Ow, ow, ow.

I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
Nevada, with two Jeeps.

But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.

I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.

Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
else.

I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.

But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
will build a replica for only $350K.

This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
interesting.



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Geez, a full sized stock '68 Plymouth beat your Enzo Ferrari
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Geez, a full sized stock '68 Plymouth beat your Enzo Ferrari
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 02:40 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Geez, a full sized stock '68 Plymouth beat your Enzo Ferrari
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Yeah, in a line that cost Ken Miles the world championship because
> Ford brass made them, in their British Lola built GT40s with Italian
> transaxles, British brakes and German suspension. The next year
> Ferrari was there, where was Ford?
>
> Henry Ford II with ten times the money bought that race. For Ferrari
> racing was everything: for Ford it was a whim to impress his Italian
> wife.
>
> Ford was never a serious player in any form of road racing with any
> US-derived product. They paid Cosworth to build the DFV, and the
> inline fours in US Ford products are derivatives of Brit and German
> engines to this day.
>
> Enzo Ferrari was the greatest racing car constructor in the world. I
> don't know if he ever even set foot in the U.S.
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 05:36 AM

Re: Off Topic Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFW_OfWMAE
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
news:6e9d2$45fcdc9c$9440b19b$895@STARBAND.NET
>
> Ow, ow, ow.
>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca,

and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that

Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was

$250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.
>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.
>
> This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
> interesting.
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 05:36 AM

Re: Off Topic Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15...n-at-top-speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFW_OfWMAE
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
news:6e9d2$45fcdc9c$9440b19b$895@STARBAND.NET
>
> Ow, ow, ow.
>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca,

and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that

Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was

$250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.
>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.
>
> This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
> interesting.
>
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-18-2007 05:36 AM

Re: Off Topic Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15...n-at-top-speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFW_OfWMAE
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
news:6e9d2$45fcdc9c$9440b19b$895@STARBAND.NET
>
> Ow, ow, ow.
>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca,

and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that

Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was

$250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.
>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.
>
> This is a Jeepo groupo, so I spare you all the cites, but the history is
> interesting.
>
>




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Stupendous Man 03-18-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Billzz" <> wrote
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.


Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
--
Stupendous Man,
Hathaway Pines, California



Stupendous Man 03-18-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Billzz" <> wrote
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.


Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
--
Stupendous Man,
Hathaway Pines, California



Stupendous Man 03-18-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

"Billzz" <> wrote
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.


Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
--
Stupendous Man,
Hathaway Pines, California



Lon 03-18-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Meanwhile, in our universe, Ford took 1,2,3 in the 1966 Lemans, not 1965.

L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?
> http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
>>outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
>>for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>>

>
>
>
>


Lon 03-18-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Meanwhile, in our universe, Ford took 1,2,3 in the 1966 Lemans, not 1965.

L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?
> http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
>>outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
>>for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>>

>
>
>
>


Lon 03-18-2007 01:22 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
Meanwhile, in our universe, Ford took 1,2,3 in the 1966 Lemans, not 1965.

L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> You mean the rest of the world where Ford stomped Ferrari, one, two,
> three in '65 LaMans?
> http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i...ord%20MkII.JPG
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>> I doubt he is talking about drag racing, a sport not taken seriously
>>outside the US (I know, Santa Pod and all that....riiiiight), and one
>>for which post-1962 Corvettes with their IRS are poorly suited.
>>

>
>
>
>


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.


It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.


There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.


It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.


It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.


There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.


It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.


Bret Ludwig 03-18-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 

>
> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
> Nevada, with two Jeeps.
>
> But I once owned Jaguars, XK-140 and E-Type and went around Laguna Seca, and
> was passed, really fast, by Ferraris.
>
> I used to know something about this stuff, and seemed to remember that Ford
> wanted to buy Ferrari, and Enzio said something really bad ( so bad that I
> have forgotten) but Ford II spent a lot of money (if I remember it was $250K
> per car, which is nothing today, but big bucks then) and won the race.


It was the worst swear word the Deuce ever heard;
"No".

Enzo entertained selling and Ford sent over a bunch of hick morons.
When Enzo realized he was giving up his fiefdom to such people he sent
them home. Henry the Deuce wanted revenge. So he hired Eric Broadley
and Lola and wrote a blank check. Ford proved that by spending enough
money they could beat Ferrari at an activity Ferrari, a tiny
organization, regarded as secondary anyway. Then by making them cross
1-2-3 Ford ruined the popular Ken Miles' shot at the championship
title and Ford received huge ill will. Rightly so.

>
> Ferrari then invented the 330P4, which beat the Ford cars, and everything
> else.
>
> I remember thinking that I could have purchased a Ford GT40. Well, not
> really, but close. There is a replica for sale, you can look them up.


There are more "real" GT40s than there ever were, PLUS the "flawless"
replicas, plus the pretty good replicas, plus the hokey replicas, plus
the new Ford GT which is the hokiest of all with its Focus-grade
interior and plastic wiring looms on parade. Take your choice. It's
still a Brit cottage industry chassis (or copy of same) and a pushrod
engine out of a Ford LTD. At least the Ferrari has a racing engine-
hand-rammed sand castings of good Almag alloy with none of the fru-fru
for going to the supermarket. If people like Nutter Llwellyn can't
understand the difference between a glue horse and Seattle Slew is
that your problem, or mine?
>
> But a Ferrari 330P4? Absolutely priceless. But Bob Norwood, in Dallas,
> will build a replica for only $350K.


It's price is actually very calculable-two and a half million last I
heard. Of course, I remember the beautiful two weeks in which the ACV
of a 365 Daytona, cash on the barrelhead, went from $750K to $75K.
Markets can and do implode. My guess is when the Dems win the White
House, they will put a tax on collectibles transactions and values
will decrease overnight from that alone. Plus which, collectibles
values always tend to be inversely related to interest rates and
interest rates are artificially low to keep cheap Chinese goods coming
in and real estate from crashing. Our Shithead in Chief has mortgaged
us to the Chinese for his nutty so called "war" and when we get run
out of the Middle East (they have figured out how to fight Western
powers finally: dig in good and make them come in, like the Hezzies
have smacked down Jahweh's Own Army in Lebanon twice now) they will
pull the plug. I see twelve-cylinder bargains in the future.


Billzz 03-18-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.

>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California


We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!



Billzz 03-18-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.

>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California


We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!



Billzz 03-18-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Inappropriate use of Jeep name?
 
"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:56528mF27ks6eU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Billzz" <> wrote
>> I subscribe to this groupo because we are now retired , in the Sierra
>> Nevada, with two Jeeps.

>
> Where? You want a "heads up" when we take the Class B Lotus to the track?
> --
> Stupendous Man,
> Hathaway Pines, California


We live in the vicinity of Pollock Pines, which is halfway between
Sacramento and South Lake Tahoe, close to US 50, at the 4000 foot level. We
are close, as the crow flies, but we would both have to go downhill to 49 to
go north-south

I haven't been on a track since 1959-61, so my interest has waned. My son
did 10-11 sec in a Pontiac, at the Sacramento Raceway, but that's drag
racing, not my thing. My brother-in-law is even a top fuel dragster, and I
haven't seen him race either.

Towe Auto Museum, in downtown Sacramento has an original Colin Chapman
Lotus, with the interesting history. Also an XK-120 Jaguar, complete with
the tickets from Monterey, about the time I was there, although I don't
remember the car - but that's not the only thing I don't remember!




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