Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:86u00xebuk.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
>I always wanted a Jeep, too. And, like you seem to, didn't take it
> seriously as a daily driver or whatever. I made a few bucks and bought
> a brand new Land Rover Discovery. I loved it at first and hated
> later. I met a woman who had a '94 YJ (Jeep square headlights) with 500K+
> miles
> and she'd only ever changed the oil. I traded my Land Rover for a new
> '04 TJ (Jeep newest w/ round headlights). My TJ is the best thing I've
> ever owned.
>
> This may be more advice than you want to hear, but it seems you've
> caught the bug anyway. Dump your car and buy as new a Jeep as you can
> manage. In my opinion, a stock Jeep with high traction tires is a
> great place to start and will still get you further than you can
> imagine. It'll get you to work, too.
>
>
> first and eat later.
>
> "nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> writes:
>

.... and the Jeep gives you one other thing.. That big silly grin.
But then, it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand... yet.

I'm on my 4th jeep, most in here have had MANY more. I've had two CJs (older
Wranglers) one 05 Liberty ( the new little cute ute) and now my 06 Wrangler
Rubicon.
My experience says much the same as you've already heard. Buy the BEST BASE
VEHICLE you can afford. If it has a few modifications that's ok but you CAN
get a long ways with a base model. If it doesn't have good tires on it plan
on buying a set, and plan on it costing you $700-$1000.

Unlike some of the guys in here, I don't get the chance to go play very
often. Hopefully this will change next year. When I do I will start making
mods. I will prolly go back to work just so I can feed the fever.

I recommend the Wrangler. I'll even go one further (and this will likely get
me blasted) and suggest one with COIL springs. My CJs both had leaf springs,
beat my kidneys to death.
The Wrangler is so good looking and you have so many top options, it's a
convertible and a 4x4 combined. I'm telling you, I think it's the most fun
vehicle out there bar none.


Take your time in shopping, stick around here and ask tons of questions.,
Some of these guys really know their stuff. Some of them are just full of
----. You'll be able to tell the difference in short order.

Personally I think 100k is a little high in the mileage department. Not that
they are worn out by then, but 100k mileage is all over the vehicle, not
JUST the drive tain. I would say stay under 75k if you can. That way you'll
get some fun before you get to start turning a wrench.

Kate
06 Rubicon.

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:86u00xebuk.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
>I always wanted a Jeep, too. And, like you seem to, didn't take it
> seriously as a daily driver or whatever. I made a few bucks and bought
> a brand new Land Rover Discovery. I loved it at first and hated
> later. I met a woman who had a '94 YJ (Jeep square headlights) with 500K+
> miles
> and she'd only ever changed the oil. I traded my Land Rover for a new
> '04 TJ (Jeep newest w/ round headlights). My TJ is the best thing I've
> ever owned.
>
> This may be more advice than you want to hear, but it seems you've
> caught the bug anyway. Dump your car and buy as new a Jeep as you can
> manage. In my opinion, a stock Jeep with high traction tires is a
> great place to start and will still get you further than you can
> imagine. It'll get you to work, too.
>
>
> first and eat later.
>
> "nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> writes:
>

.... and the Jeep gives you one other thing.. That big silly grin.
But then, it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand... yet.

I'm on my 4th jeep, most in here have had MANY more. I've had two CJs (older
Wranglers) one 05 Liberty ( the new little cute ute) and now my 06 Wrangler
Rubicon.
My experience says much the same as you've already heard. Buy the BEST BASE
VEHICLE you can afford. If it has a few modifications that's ok but you CAN
get a long ways with a base model. If it doesn't have good tires on it plan
on buying a set, and plan on it costing you $700-$1000.

Unlike some of the guys in here, I don't get the chance to go play very
often. Hopefully this will change next year. When I do I will start making
mods. I will prolly go back to work just so I can feed the fever.

I recommend the Wrangler. I'll even go one further (and this will likely get
me blasted) and suggest one with COIL springs. My CJs both had leaf springs,
beat my kidneys to death.
The Wrangler is so good looking and you have so many top options, it's a
convertible and a 4x4 combined. I'm telling you, I think it's the most fun
vehicle out there bar none.


Take your time in shopping, stick around here and ask tons of questions.,
Some of these guys really know their stuff. Some of them are just full of
----. You'll be able to tell the difference in short order.

Personally I think 100k is a little high in the mileage department. Not that
they are worn out by then, but 100k mileage is all over the vehicle, not
JUST the drive tain. I would say stay under 75k if you can. That way you'll
get some fun before you get to start turning a wrench.

Kate
06 Rubicon.

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Daniel Bibbens" <dbibbens@xobjex.com> wrote in message
news:86u00xebuk.fsf@cheyenne.xobjex.com...
>I always wanted a Jeep, too. And, like you seem to, didn't take it
> seriously as a daily driver or whatever. I made a few bucks and bought
> a brand new Land Rover Discovery. I loved it at first and hated
> later. I met a woman who had a '94 YJ (Jeep square headlights) with 500K+
> miles
> and she'd only ever changed the oil. I traded my Land Rover for a new
> '04 TJ (Jeep newest w/ round headlights). My TJ is the best thing I've
> ever owned.
>
> This may be more advice than you want to hear, but it seems you've
> caught the bug anyway. Dump your car and buy as new a Jeep as you can
> manage. In my opinion, a stock Jeep with high traction tires is a
> great place to start and will still get you further than you can
> imagine. It'll get you to work, too.
>
>
> first and eat later.
>
> "nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> writes:
>

.... and the Jeep gives you one other thing.. That big silly grin.
But then, it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand... yet.

I'm on my 4th jeep, most in here have had MANY more. I've had two CJs (older
Wranglers) one 05 Liberty ( the new little cute ute) and now my 06 Wrangler
Rubicon.
My experience says much the same as you've already heard. Buy the BEST BASE
VEHICLE you can afford. If it has a few modifications that's ok but you CAN
get a long ways with a base model. If it doesn't have good tires on it plan
on buying a set, and plan on it costing you $700-$1000.

Unlike some of the guys in here, I don't get the chance to go play very
often. Hopefully this will change next year. When I do I will start making
mods. I will prolly go back to work just so I can feed the fever.

I recommend the Wrangler. I'll even go one further (and this will likely get
me blasted) and suggest one with COIL springs. My CJs both had leaf springs,
beat my kidneys to death.
The Wrangler is so good looking and you have so many top options, it's a
convertible and a 4x4 combined. I'm telling you, I think it's the most fun
vehicle out there bar none.


Take your time in shopping, stick around here and ask tons of questions.,
Some of these guys really know their stuff. Some of them are just full of
----. You'll be able to tell the difference in short order.

Personally I think 100k is a little high in the mileage department. Not that
they are worn out by then, but 100k mileage is all over the vehicle, not
JUST the drive tain. I would say stay under 75k if you can. That way you'll
get some fun before you get to start turning a wrench.

Kate
06 Rubicon.

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:455e60bd$0$21211$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> The further from the main roads, the more reliable a vehicle you want.
> You
> don't want a vehicle you know nothing about, breaking down 20 or more
> miles
> from the nearest, probably expensive, tow truck. Any vehicle can break
> down, but a $4,000-$5,000 used vehicle, probably ten years old or more,
> will
> need a thorough going over before you can trust it far from the paved
> roads.
> Fixing it up may be a good way to acquire that Jeep knowledge, that you
> really do need for those 4x4 only trails.
>
> Now that you have a reliable vehicle, you will also need maps, maybe GPS,
> satellite phone and hiking gear for a safety net. Advice about clubs is
> good, but maybe you go into the wilderness to get away from society.
> Don't
> forget to tell someone where you are going, where you plan to park the
> Jeep,
> and which direction you will be hiking from there. How far can you walk?
> Consider a mountain bike as an emergency spare.
>
> Paz,
>
> Earle

that was good advice :)

Kate

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:455e60bd$0$21211$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> The further from the main roads, the more reliable a vehicle you want.
> You
> don't want a vehicle you know nothing about, breaking down 20 or more
> miles
> from the nearest, probably expensive, tow truck. Any vehicle can break
> down, but a $4,000-$5,000 used vehicle, probably ten years old or more,
> will
> need a thorough going over before you can trust it far from the paved
> roads.
> Fixing it up may be a good way to acquire that Jeep knowledge, that you
> really do need for those 4x4 only trails.
>
> Now that you have a reliable vehicle, you will also need maps, maybe GPS,
> satellite phone and hiking gear for a safety net. Advice about clubs is
> good, but maybe you go into the wilderness to get away from society.
> Don't
> forget to tell someone where you are going, where you plan to park the
> Jeep,
> and which direction you will be hiking from there. How far can you walk?
> Consider a mountain bike as an emergency spare.
>
> Paz,
>
> Earle

that was good advice :)

Kate

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:455e60bd$0$21211$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> The further from the main roads, the more reliable a vehicle you want.
> You
> don't want a vehicle you know nothing about, breaking down 20 or more
> miles
> from the nearest, probably expensive, tow truck. Any vehicle can break
> down, but a $4,000-$5,000 used vehicle, probably ten years old or more,
> will
> need a thorough going over before you can trust it far from the paved
> roads.
> Fixing it up may be a good way to acquire that Jeep knowledge, that you
> really do need for those 4x4 only trails.
>
> Now that you have a reliable vehicle, you will also need maps, maybe GPS,
> satellite phone and hiking gear for a safety net. Advice about clubs is
> good, but maybe you go into the wilderness to get away from society.
> Don't
> forget to tell someone where you are going, where you plan to park the
> Jeep,
> and which direction you will be hiking from there. How far can you walk?
> Consider a mountain bike as an emergency spare.
>
> Paz,
>
> Earle

that was good advice :)

Kate

Re: I need some guidance.
 

PS - Alex - you NEVER have to justify a Jeep.

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163810077.838352.259620@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello everyone.
>
> I don't know *anything* about jeeps--other than they're cool and I've
> always wanted one. I'd like to buy one so that I can get deeper into
> some interesting desert hiking trails. I'm bored of the trails that I
> can get to using my car.
>
> So how do I buy one and not spend a lot of money? I can probably
> afford to spend $4-5k on a hobby car--like a jeep, but I couldn't
> justify it for any more than that. It's not something I'm going to use
> that often and it seems unwise to spend that much money.
>
> How much is too much mileage for a jeep? Someone in another newsgroup
> told me that they considered something in the 90-100k miles, low. I
> wouldn't, but then I don't know anything about jeeps so maybe that's
> normal--I don't know.
>
> what should I look for or is there a website that I can go to learn
> some of this stuff.
>
> I don't want to do any hard-core off-roading mostly because I've never
> driven a jeep and I'd probably get stuck somewhere.I just want to get
> into some of the 4x4 only trails that I read about on the topo maps.
>
> Thanks,.
>
> Alex in San Diego, Ca.
>

Re: I need some guidance.
 

PS - Alex - you NEVER have to justify a Jeep.

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163810077.838352.259620@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello everyone.
>
> I don't know *anything* about jeeps--other than they're cool and I've
> always wanted one. I'd like to buy one so that I can get deeper into
> some interesting desert hiking trails. I'm bored of the trails that I
> can get to using my car.
>
> So how do I buy one and not spend a lot of money? I can probably
> afford to spend $4-5k on a hobby car--like a jeep, but I couldn't
> justify it for any more than that. It's not something I'm going to use
> that often and it seems unwise to spend that much money.
>
> How much is too much mileage for a jeep? Someone in another newsgroup
> told me that they considered something in the 90-100k miles, low. I
> wouldn't, but then I don't know anything about jeeps so maybe that's
> normal--I don't know.
>
> what should I look for or is there a website that I can go to learn
> some of this stuff.
>
> I don't want to do any hard-core off-roading mostly because I've never
> driven a jeep and I'd probably get stuck somewhere.I just want to get
> into some of the 4x4 only trails that I read about on the topo maps.
>
> Thanks,.
>
> Alex in San Diego, Ca.
>

Re: I need some guidance.
 

PS - Alex - you NEVER have to justify a Jeep.

"nightrider.36" <alex.cordero@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163810077.838352.259620@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello everyone.
>
> I don't know *anything* about jeeps--other than they're cool and I've
> always wanted one. I'd like to buy one so that I can get deeper into
> some interesting desert hiking trails. I'm bored of the trails that I
> can get to using my car.
>
> So how do I buy one and not spend a lot of money? I can probably
> afford to spend $4-5k on a hobby car--like a jeep, but I couldn't
> justify it for any more than that. It's not something I'm going to use
> that often and it seems unwise to spend that much money.
>
> How much is too much mileage for a jeep? Someone in another newsgroup
> told me that they considered something in the 90-100k miles, low. I
> wouldn't, but then I don't know anything about jeeps so maybe that's
> normal--I don't know.
>
> what should I look for or is there a website that I can go to learn
> some of this stuff.
>
> I don't want to do any hard-core off-roading mostly because I've never
> driven a jeep and I'd probably get stuck somewhere.I just want to get
> into some of the 4x4 only trails that I read about on the topo maps.
>
> Thanks,.
>
> Alex in San Diego, Ca.
>

Re: I need some guidance.
 

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> writes:

> ... and the Jeep gives you one other thing.. That big silly grin.
> But then, it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand... yet.
>
> Kate
> 06 Rubicon.

I can't believe I forgot to mention that, Kate! When I come home --
from the trail or from an errand around town -- my wife frequently
asks "What are you smiling about?". I just shrug my shoulders "ah
nothin'".

....it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand...

http://xobjex.com/dbibbens/albums/happiness.jpg
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