Re: I just bought a Deutz
 

Bret,

I think the big question, is the price of a set of pistons and cylinders or
liners. The cylinders are going to miss oil, long before the crank will.
You are wasting your time even thinking about an oil radiator. All it will
do, is cool your oil below the point where water evaporates. Then your sump
is going to be an acid sludge generating facility. You are finally
beginning to see the light on the electric heat issue. A bread van has to
have a lot more than 100 hp. Don't think that you can willy nilly adapt all
bread van technology to the Jeep.

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136905641.661408.56320@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> >
> > I know I've seen you talking about diesel swaps before. What are the
> > vital stats on the Deutz HP and Torque? what transmission are you
> > planning on?
> >
>
> My new engine is a Deutz four cylinder FL 912 that in vehicle trim
> puts out around 100 hp. Weight is heavy-it weighs at least as much as a
> SBC when stripped down to vehicle configuration. I bought it as kind of
> a wild hair thing.
>
> Vehicle heat will have to come from a fuel-fired heater if a lot is
> wanted. An oil radiator can be used to replace the vehicle heater core
> and electric heat is possible, but to get enough heat for satisfactory
> use you need 3 to 5 KW in really cold climates, which means a road
> coach alternator. Breadvans with Deutzes use either a South Wind heater
> or both the oil core and electric heat.
>
> Brake boost is no problem-you either fit the power-steering-pump
> booster or a vacuum pump. There is a Cadillac part that's about $80 all
> the street rodders and IH Scout Diesel owners with dead alternator vac
> pumps use.
>
> Originally I wanted a good 5 or 6 spewed manual but now I am thinking
> a 700R4 auto is going to be the simple and cheap way to go. I haven't
> got the host vehicle yet-a TJ is a better Jeep than a YJ but I can get
> a YJ really cheap. One thing is certain, the Peugeot wouldn't last five
> minutes.
>
> It should be fun. The big question is, did a bearing spin and if so,
> will I be able to get my block linebored satisfactorily? I'm waiting
> to get the book before tearing in blindly.
>

Re: I just bought a Deutz
 

Bret,

I think the big question, is the price of a set of pistons and cylinders or
liners. The cylinders are going to miss oil, long before the crank will.
You are wasting your time even thinking about an oil radiator. All it will
do, is cool your oil below the point where water evaporates. Then your sump
is going to be an acid sludge generating facility. You are finally
beginning to see the light on the electric heat issue. A bread van has to
have a lot more than 100 hp. Don't think that you can willy nilly adapt all
bread van technology to the Jeep.

Earle

"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136905641.661408.56320@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
> <<snip>>
>
> >
> > I know I've seen you talking about diesel swaps before. What are the
> > vital stats on the Deutz HP and Torque? what transmission are you
> > planning on?
> >
>
> My new engine is a Deutz four cylinder FL 912 that in vehicle trim
> puts out around 100 hp. Weight is heavy-it weighs at least as much as a
> SBC when stripped down to vehicle configuration. I bought it as kind of
> a wild hair thing.
>
> Vehicle heat will have to come from a fuel-fired heater if a lot is
> wanted. An oil radiator can be used to replace the vehicle heater core
> and electric heat is possible, but to get enough heat for satisfactory
> use you need 3 to 5 KW in really cold climates, which means a road
> coach alternator. Breadvans with Deutzes use either a South Wind heater
> or both the oil core and electric heat.
>
> Brake boost is no problem-you either fit the power-steering-pump
> booster or a vacuum pump. There is a Cadillac part that's about $80 all
> the street rodders and IH Scout Diesel owners with dead alternator vac
> pumps use.
>
> Originally I wanted a good 5 or 6 spewed manual but now I am thinking
> a 700R4 auto is going to be the simple and cheap way to go. I haven't
> got the host vehicle yet-a TJ is a better Jeep than a YJ but I can get
> a YJ really cheap. One thing is certain, the Peugeot wouldn't last five
> minutes.
>
> It should be fun. The big question is, did a bearing spin and if so,
> will I be able to get my block linebored satisfactorily? I'm waiting
> to get the book before tearing in blindly.
>

Re: I just bought a Deutz
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> Bret,
>
> I think the big question, is the price of a set of pistons and cylinders or
> liners. The cylinders are going to miss oil, long before the crank will.
> You are wasting your time even thinking about an oil radiator. All it will
> do, is cool your oil below the point where water evaporates. Then your sump
> is going to be an acid sludge generating facility. You are finally
> beginning to see the light on the electric heat issue. A bread van has to
> have a lot more than 100 hp. Don't think that you can willy nilly adapt all
> bread van technology to the Jeep.

Let me get them off and look at them first! The jugs can be honed and
oversize pistons fitted but let's see what we have first. You cannot
get them off without the wrench and that's on its way.

I have a catalog of Deutz OEM and aftermarket parts on its way too.
The guy I ordered the books and wrench from said figure on a thousand
bucks if the crank is turnable and the block not tore up, and if you're
lucky the cylinders will hone out.

Re: I just bought a Deutz
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> Bret,
>
> I think the big question, is the price of a set of pistons and cylinders or
> liners. The cylinders are going to miss oil, long before the crank will.
> You are wasting your time even thinking about an oil radiator. All it will
> do, is cool your oil below the point where water evaporates. Then your sump
> is going to be an acid sludge generating facility. You are finally
> beginning to see the light on the electric heat issue. A bread van has to
> have a lot more than 100 hp. Don't think that you can willy nilly adapt all
> bread van technology to the Jeep.

Let me get them off and look at them first! The jugs can be honed and
oversize pistons fitted but let's see what we have first. You cannot
get them off without the wrench and that's on its way.

I have a catalog of Deutz OEM and aftermarket parts on its way too.
The guy I ordered the books and wrench from said figure on a thousand
bucks if the crank is turnable and the block not tore up, and if you're
lucky the cylinders will hone out.

Re: I just bought a Deutz
 

Earle Horton wrote:
> Bret,
>
> I think the big question, is the price of a set of pistons and cylinders or
> liners. The cylinders are going to miss oil, long before the crank will.
> You are wasting your time even thinking about an oil radiator. All it will
> do, is cool your oil below the point where water evaporates. Then your sump
> is going to be an acid sludge generating facility. You are finally
> beginning to see the light on the electric heat issue. A bread van has to
> have a lot more than 100 hp. Don't think that you can willy nilly adapt all
> bread van technology to the Jeep.

Let me get them off and look at them first! The jugs can be honed and
oversize pistons fitted but let's see what we have first. You cannot
get them off without the wrench and that's on its way.

I have a catalog of Deutz OEM and aftermarket parts on its way too.
The guy I ordered the books and wrench from said figure on a thousand
bucks if the crank is turnable and the block not tore up, and if you're
lucky the cylinders will hone out.