Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

In article <3F70ADE8.6EF6454F@mindspring.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Bill Funk wrote:
>
>> Nuclear works, is economically feasible, and is safe (it's the people
>> who screw up, not the technology).
>> Of course, the ecos don't want it, either.
>
>
>It is hard to figure out what the wackos want. The only thing I am sure
>that will work is population control and a reduction in the total number
>of humans on the planet.
>
>I have no respect for most of the high profile environmentalist. They
>preach conservation while flying around in private jets and riding to
>events in limos. It often seems that they feel everyone else needs to
>conserve. I'd love to match up the Sierra Club membership list with the
>vehicle registration lists to see how many Sierra Club members are
>driving SUVs.
>
>Ed
That would be interesting. Like how many Republicans have family members
who've had abortions, or are gay.

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety canbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

In article <3F70ADE8.6EF6454F@mindspring.com>,
"C. E. White" <cewhite3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>Bill Funk wrote:
>
>> Nuclear works, is economically feasible, and is safe (it's the people
>> who screw up, not the technology).
>> Of course, the ecos don't want it, either.
>
>
>It is hard to figure out what the wackos want. The only thing I am sure
>that will work is population control and a reduction in the total number
>of humans on the planet.
>
>I have no respect for most of the high profile environmentalist. They
>preach conservation while flying around in private jets and riding to
>events in limos. It often seems that they feel everyone else needs to
>conserve. I'd love to match up the Sierra Club membership list with the
>vehicle registration lists to see how many Sierra Club members are
>driving SUVs.
>
>Ed
That would be interesting. Like how many Republicans have family members
who've had abortions, or are gay.

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 03 09:23:38 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>In article <b5b4685f.0311220857.5c6200cf@posting.google.com >,
> gzuckier@yahoo.com (z) wrote:
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message
>news:<olesrvsl6emilb2rgfbes8n605i91jdluj@4ax.com> ...
>>> >>>> >To sum it up - even if global warming is true, I believe the cure is
>>> worse than
>>> >>>> >the disease. And furthermore, I think that even if it is true, the
>case
>>> is being
>>> >>>> >dramatically overstated.
>>
>>I've always wondered why 'conservatives' (to use the term loosely, as
>>it correlates with most 'no global warming' folks) think that a
>>billion dollars invested in developing new industries such as energy
>>conservation and energy sources that do not involve combustion of
>>fossil fuel is more wasteful and a drag on the economy than a billion
>>dollars spent on trying to cope with the flooding of our coastal
>>cities as the ocean rises.
>>
>
>Interestingly, 2 of the companies that are the biggest producers of fossil
>fuels -- BP and Shell -- agree global warming is occurring and that action
>needs to be taken on it now, not later.

Very few say global warming isn't happening.
Very weak attempt at a strawman there, Lloyd.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 03 09:23:38 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>In article <b5b4685f.0311220857.5c6200cf@posting.google.com >,
> gzuckier@yahoo.com (z) wrote:
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message
>news:<olesrvsl6emilb2rgfbes8n605i91jdluj@4ax.com> ...
>>> >>>> >To sum it up - even if global warming is true, I believe the cure is
>>> worse than
>>> >>>> >the disease. And furthermore, I think that even if it is true, the
>case
>>> is being
>>> >>>> >dramatically overstated.
>>
>>I've always wondered why 'conservatives' (to use the term loosely, as
>>it correlates with most 'no global warming' folks) think that a
>>billion dollars invested in developing new industries such as energy
>>conservation and energy sources that do not involve combustion of
>>fossil fuel is more wasteful and a drag on the economy than a billion
>>dollars spent on trying to cope with the flooding of our coastal
>>cities as the ocean rises.
>>
>
>Interestingly, 2 of the companies that are the biggest producers of fossil
>fuels -- BP and Shell -- agree global warming is occurring and that action
>needs to be taken on it now, not later.

Very few say global warming isn't happening.
Very weak attempt at a strawman there, Lloyd.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

On Mon, 24 Nov 03 09:23:38 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

>In article <b5b4685f.0311220857.5c6200cf@posting.google.com >,
> gzuckier@yahoo.com (z) wrote:
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message
>news:<olesrvsl6emilb2rgfbes8n605i91jdluj@4ax.com> ...
>>> >>>> >To sum it up - even if global warming is true, I believe the cure is
>>> worse than
>>> >>>> >the disease. And furthermore, I think that even if it is true, the
>case
>>> is being
>>> >>>> >dramatically overstated.
>>
>>I've always wondered why 'conservatives' (to use the term loosely, as
>>it correlates with most 'no global warming' folks) think that a
>>billion dollars invested in developing new industries such as energy
>>conservation and energy sources that do not involve combustion of
>>fossil fuel is more wasteful and a drag on the economy than a billion
>>dollars spent on trying to cope with the flooding of our coastal
>>cities as the ocean rises.
>>
>
>Interestingly, 2 of the companies that are the biggest producers of fossil
>fuels -- BP and Shell -- agree global warming is occurring and that action
>needs to be taken on it now, not later.

Very few say global warming isn't happening.
Very weak attempt at a strawman there, Lloyd.

--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
 

In 1963 the Thames and the Rhine froze over. These were exceptional events.
Did we have a mini Ice Age then?

DAS
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> > >
> > >"A review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's
> > temperatures
> > >are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they
producing the
> > most
> > >extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the
environmentalists.
[......]
> > >
> > >They also confirm claims that a Little Ice Age set in around 1300,
during
> > which
> > >the world cooled dramatically. Since 1900, the world has begun to warm
up
> > again -
> > >but has still to reach the balmy temperatures of the Middle Ages.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
 

In 1963 the Thames and the Rhine froze over. These were exceptional events.
Did we have a mini Ice Age then?

DAS
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"Greg" <greg@greg.greg> wrote in message news:3FBED5D7.547D1F7@greg.greg...
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> > >
> > >"A review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's
> > temperatures
> > >are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they
producing the
> > most
> > >extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the
environmentalists.
[......]
> > >
> > >They also confirm claims that a Little Ice Age set in around 1300,
during
> > which
> > >the world cooled dramatically. Since 1900, the world has begun to warm
up
> > again -
> > >but has still to reach the balmy temperatures of the Middle Ages.
..............

Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
 

In 1963 the Thames and the Rhine froze over. These were exceptional events.
Did we have a mini Ice Age then?

DAS
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"Greg" <greg@greg.greg> wrote in message news:3FBED5D7.547D1F7@greg.greg...
[......]
[.....]
> > >
> > >"A review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's
> > temperatures
> > >are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they
producing the
> > most
> > >extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the
environmentalists.
[......]
> > >
> > >They also confirm claims that a Little Ice Age set in around 1300,
during
> > which
> > >the world cooled dramatically. Since 1900, the world has begun to warm
up
> > again -
> > >but has still to reach the balmy temperatures of the Middle Ages.
..............

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

Unfortunately my memory is patchy about WHO (not the UN WHO...) made the
claims, but I seem to remember scare stories in my student days (the
seventies) about global cooling, some emanating from quite respectable
sources.

I just had a quick look at the Club of Rome website archive, but it doesn't
seem to have been them.

DAS
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> Lie. No group said that.

Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
 

Unfortunately my memory is patchy about WHO (not the UN WHO...) made the
claims, but I seem to remember scare stories in my student days (the
seventies) about global cooling, some emanating from quite respectable
sources.

I just had a quick look at the Club of Rome website archive, but it doesn't
seem to have been them.

DAS
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> Lie. No group said that.