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Re: How does 4x4 really work
What have you heard that was good about a Subaru?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Patrick wrote: > > So a AWD Subaru would be better for every day driving in the snow ( city > driving ) > but very limited off-road ? Is that correct ? i have heard good thing about > Subaru AWD latest generation. |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Some consumer rating
Subaru : 8.3/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/re...x?modelid=2640 Jeep :8.2/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Re...3&src=vip#Engi These are user rating and not Manufacture or journalist. The only thing is Subaru are expensive to fix while jeep is not very costy $$$ they have a good reputation around here however, better than AUDI$$$$$$$$ "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news: 41E1C32F.2BF8F473@cox.net... > What have you heard that was good about a Subaru? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Patrick wrote: >> >> So a AWD Subaru would be better for every day driving in the snow ( city >> driving ) >> but very limited off-road ? Is that correct ? i have heard good thing >> about >> Subaru AWD latest generation. |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Some consumer rating
Subaru : 8.3/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/re...x?modelid=2640 Jeep :8.2/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Re...3&src=vip#Engi These are user rating and not Manufacture or journalist. The only thing is Subaru are expensive to fix while jeep is not very costy $$$ they have a good reputation around here however, better than AUDI$$$$$$$$ "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news: 41E1C32F.2BF8F473@cox.net... > What have you heard that was good about a Subaru? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Patrick wrote: >> >> So a AWD Subaru would be better for every day driving in the snow ( city >> driving ) >> but very limited off-road ? Is that correct ? i have heard good thing >> about >> Subaru AWD latest generation. |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Some consumer rating
Subaru : 8.3/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/re...x?modelid=2640 Jeep :8.2/10 http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Re...3&src=vip#Engi These are user rating and not Manufacture or journalist. The only thing is Subaru are expensive to fix while jeep is not very costy $$$ they have a good reputation around here however, better than AUDI$$$$$$$$ "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> a écrit dans le message de news: 41E1C32F.2BF8F473@cox.net... > What have you heard that was good about a Subaru? > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Patrick wrote: >> >> So a AWD Subaru would be better for every day driving in the snow ( city >> driving ) >> but very limited off-road ? Is that correct ? i have heard good thing >> about >> Subaru AWD latest generation. |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo
(Selectrac). We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it gripped the snow. I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. Jim That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able to "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... > Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was > on full time > > The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the > only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light > on and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front > wheel spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the > truck engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! > > I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and > patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same > ? > > thanks > > Pat > > |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo
(Selectrac). We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it gripped the snow. I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. Jim That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able to "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... > Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was > on full time > > The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the > only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light > on and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front > wheel spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the > truck engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! > > I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and > patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same > ? > > thanks > > Pat > > |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo
(Selectrac). We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it gripped the snow. I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. Jim That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able to "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... > Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was > on full time > > The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the > only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light > on and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front > wheel spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the > truck engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! > > I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and > patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same > ? > > thanks > > Pat > > |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
I usually put the tranny in Neutral engage then reverse and then drive an
it's engage. easier to unlock in reverse too. otherwise engage drive and within a few meter it will engage ! Why ??i have no answer.. !! BILL ? Seem that the fulltime is better in driving mode that when stuck too. ? I have 4 seasons tire however. http://www.etires.com/tireSpec.jsp?specID=2279 Pat "Jim Y." <jjy0912@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news: lDjEd.13195$by5.567@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo > (Selectrac). > > We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but > side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. > > One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 > do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. > > Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were > slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic > from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing > down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then > put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels > slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I > drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. > > Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the > Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after > like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it > gripped the snow. > > I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. > Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. > > Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and > Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? > I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. > > Jim > > That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able > to > "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... >> Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was on >> full time >> >> The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the >> only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light on >> and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front wheel >> spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the truck >> engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! >> >> I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and >> patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same ? >> >> thanks >> >> Pat >> >> > |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
I usually put the tranny in Neutral engage then reverse and then drive an
it's engage. easier to unlock in reverse too. otherwise engage drive and within a few meter it will engage ! Why ??i have no answer.. !! BILL ? Seem that the fulltime is better in driving mode that when stuck too. ? I have 4 seasons tire however. http://www.etires.com/tireSpec.jsp?specID=2279 Pat "Jim Y." <jjy0912@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news: lDjEd.13195$by5.567@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo > (Selectrac). > > We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but > side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. > > One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 > do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. > > Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were > slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic > from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing > down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then > put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels > slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I > drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. > > Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the > Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after > like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it > gripped the snow. > > I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. > Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. > > Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and > Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? > I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. > > Jim > > That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able > to > "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... >> Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was on >> full time >> >> The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the >> only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light on >> and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front wheel >> spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the truck >> engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! >> >> I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and >> patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same ? >> >> thanks >> >> Pat >> >> > |
Re: How does 4x4 really work
I usually put the tranny in Neutral engage then reverse and then drive an
it's engage. easier to unlock in reverse too. otherwise engage drive and within a few meter it will engage ! Why ??i have no answer.. !! BILL ? Seem that the fulltime is better in driving mode that when stuck too. ? I have 4 seasons tire however. http://www.etires.com/tireSpec.jsp?specID=2279 Pat "Jim Y." <jjy0912@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news: lDjEd.13195$by5.567@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Actually I had a similar experience with my Grand Cherokee Laredo > (Selectrac). > > We've had a big snowstorm last week, so main streets are just wet, but > side streets, alleys and parking lots can be snow covered. > > One thing I've noticed for me anyway, is both Part Time and Full Time 4x4 > do not seem to "fully engage" unless I'm rolling. > > Why do I say that? On two occassions yesterday, the back wheels were > slipping (once in an alley and the other as I tried to break into traffic > from a snow covered parking lot driveway). I slipped, traffic was bearing > down, I went into reverse to pull the vehicle back. Shifted to Drive, then > put on Part Time 4x4 (light on) and tried again. Again, rear wheels > slipped. So I waited for the red light to halt incoming traffic. :-) As I > drove away I could feel it engage, in a few seconds. > > Later that night I cut through an alley, started to slip, and put on the > Part Time again. Initially the rear wheels continued to slip, then after > like 30 feet, I could "feel" the 4x4 in the steering wheel, and then it > gripped the snow. > > I have a friend who has a Wrangler. I've been in it when we were stuck. > Pull it into Part Time and it engages immediately. > > Someone please tell me on Grand Cherokees with Selectrac (Part Time and > Full Time), why does it seem like you have to be rolling for it to engage? > I had it for a few years and it's always been that way. > > Jim > > That begs the question: If I'm truly stuck and bogged down, will I be able > to > "Patrick" <pat.guarnaccia@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:i_adnX74-YIyXX3cRVn-3A@b2b2c.ca... >> Last night got a bit stuck in a big snow bank, Selectrac I6 4x4, i was on >> full time >> >> The rear right (passenger) wheels was spinning and it feel it was the >> only wheel really trying to get out, i know the 4x4 is working (Light on >> and feeling while doing u-turn ) but why i did not see the front wheel >> spinning while the gc was on Reverse , I was outside with the truck >> engage looking at the truck spinning. !!!!! >> >> I tried part time and no much luck. Got out of there with time and >> patience REVERSE,DRIVE,REV... Is AWD subaru vehicules working the same ? >> >> thanks >> >> Pat >> >> > |
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