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High beams stuck on
I have a 1999 Jeep wrangler and last night on my way home from my
night class. My high beam will not ture off all the way. When I turn my low beams the high beams stay on just not as bright. And the blue dash light stays on like the high but just dim also. I did install some hella vision plus headlights (55/100 watt) I do not know if this has any thing todo with it I put them in OCT I do not know if that has anything to do with it or not. Thanks Jamie |
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Jamie Mello wrote:
> I have a 1999 Jeep wrangler and last night on my way home from my > night class. My high beam will not ture off all the way. When I turn > my low beams the high beams stay on just not as bright. And the blue > dash light stays on like the high but just dim also. I did install > some hella vision plus headlights (55/100 watt) I do not know if this > has any thing todo with it I put them in OCT I do not know if that has > anything to do with it or not. Thanks Jamie > If you used any of the stock wiring to get power for the Hella's rather than use a relay for direct power, the switches will overheat and melt down..... The stock wiring should only be used to trigger a relay to power the big lights. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com |
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Oh I did not know that.Do you guy have any clue on what I may need to
replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guy know how I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks Jamie |
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On Jan 3, 11:44 pm, Jamie Mello <carkey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need to > replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guy know how > I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for > my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks > Jamie |
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Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need
to replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guys know how I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks Jamie |
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Hi Jamie,
You asking us to look at your teeth over the phone, analogy. You told us you have a hundred watt lamps, that will need additional relays as Mike said. Find the instructions via a shop that sells them. Then trouble shoot with at least a voltmeter. A friend makes a very good living fixing f*ckups: http://www.keithautomotive.com/ God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:----------@----------.com http://www.----------.com/jeep_bookmark.htm "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:2425d944-fb66-4391-ae7c-da06d3c91992@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need > to > replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guys know > how > I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for > my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks > Jamie -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 22:44:31 -0800 (PST), Jamie Mello
<carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >Oh I did not know that.Do you guy have any clue on what I may need to >replace? Probably the headlight switch, the dimmer switch and related connectors. Not all will be bad, but at least one of them is. >I hope it will be cheap and easy. I hoped Santa would bring me a winning PowerBall ticket. I didn't get my wish either, so don't feel too bad. >And any of you guy know how >I should wire up the relay for the headlights. basic standard techniques. Fused power from a source that can deliver the current, relay driven by the normal headlight signal. >I have done relays for >my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks >Jamie Probably not much different, but don't forget the FUSE! Do the job right, no crimp connectors, no black plastic tape... |
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Jamie Mello wrote:
> Oh I did not know that.Do you guy have any clue on what I may need to > replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guy know how > I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for > my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks > Jamie What I do is run two relays, one for the low beams, one for the high beams. I cut into the wires at the front driver's side corner on TJ's and put the relays there. The I just use the stock wire that turns on the low beams as the power trigger for the relay or feed them to pin 85. I run two 10 ga. lines back to the power tap on the power distribution box or to the battery positive with inline fuses in them for relay power on pin 30. This makes for amazingly bright white light coming from even the stock lightbulbs because it gets rid of all the switches which rob some of the power at each connection. Here is a link on the use of the standard light relay or 'Bosch' style relay: http://www.classictruckshop.com/club...osch/relay.htm You now have damaged something.... I would guess it is the highbeam switch. You might also want to turn them on and 'carefully' feel the back of the headlight switch to see how hot it is. If it is smoking hot, it likely needs replacing too. Good luck! Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com |
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Thanks I will do that thanks Jamie.
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I just changed out the headlight/dimmer switch and it still is doing
the samething I think it is a relay. Do you guys know where the relay is for headlights? Thanks Jamie |
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There's no relay used on a stock headlights. Just in the fog or driving
lights circuits, and all aftermarket auxiliary off-road lights. More than likely whomever installed your headlights used the stock circuit to trigger the relay, so look for an extra hot wire coming off your battery to lead you to it. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:----------@----------.com http://www.----------.com/jeep_bookmark.htm "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:ac2b3f05-4a06-41d8-a578-83163143ae0f@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com... > I just changed out the headlight/dimmer switch and it still is doing > the samething I think it is a relay. Do you guys know where the relay > is for headlights? Thanks Jamie -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Your Low beam/High Beam switch may be bad. I'd give that a shot and see if
it takes care of it. I'm not sure about bills no relay on the stock headlights without looking at the wiring diagram. There usually is a relay, seems silly they wouldn't put one in. But this is a Jeep we are talking about, and DMC does some very silly things. Alot of times, you turn the high/low beams on off and you can hear a click. thats usually the relay. If you have one, it probably still clicks, give it a shot. I'm sure the contacts are just melted, and the magnetic coil still functions. L.W.(ßill)------ III wrote: >Hi Jamie, > You asking us to look at your teeth over the phone, analogy. You told us >you have a hundred watt lamps, that will need additional relays as Mike >said. Find the instructions via a shop that sells them. Then trouble shoot >with at least a voltmeter. A friend makes a very good living fixing f*ckups: >http://www.keithautomotive.com/ > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:----------@----------.com > http://www.----------.com/jeep_bookmark.htm > >> Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need >> to >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks >> Jamie > -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200801/1 |
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Your Low beam/High Beam switch may be bad. I'd give that a shot and see if
it takes care of it. I'm not sure about bills no relay on the stock headlights without looking at the wiring diagram. There usually is a relay, seems silly they wouldn't put one in. But this is a Jeep we are talking about, and DMC does some very silly things. Alot of times, you turn the high/low beams on off and you can hear a click. thats usually the relay. If you have one, it probably still clicks, give it a shot. I'm sure the contacts are just melted, and the magnetic coil still functions. L.W.(ßill)------ III wrote: >Hi Jamie, > You asking us to look at your teeth over the phone, analogy. You told us >you have a hundred watt lamps, that will need additional relays as Mike >said. Find the instructions via a shop that sells them. Then trouble shoot >with at least a voltmeter. A friend makes a very good living fixing f*ckups: >http://www.keithautomotive.com/ > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:----------@----------.com > http://www.----------.com/jeep_bookmark.htm > >> Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need >> to >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks >> Jamie > -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200801/1 |
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Is it very hard to replaced the high/low beams switch? I think that
there should be a relay for the headlights.But I checked all the relays none of them go to the headlights.You all have been a big help. Thanks Jamie |
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"Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:8680e02e-aab5-49ae-89a3-7168c0f112d6@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >I have a 1999 Jeep wrangler and last night on my way home from my > night class. My high beam will not ture off all the way. When I turn > my low beams the high beams stay on just not as bright. And the blue > dash light stays on like the high but just dim also. I did install > some hella vision plus headlights (55/100 watt) I do not know if this > has any thing todo with it I put them in OCT I do not know if that has > anything to do with it or not. Thanks Jamie > I have a TJ manual with schematics and I looked through the front lighting wiring diagrams. The only relay I find pertaining to the front lights is a fog lamp relay which is probably only there to switch them on and off with the high and low beam headlamps. Apparently there is no relay for the headlamps, at least I can't find one in the schematics. Hope this information helps. Les '07 Wrangler X 2 Door 6 Speed |
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Yea you saved me a lot of time looking for that relay. Thanks alot
Jamie |
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It most certainly does help. I don't know why I'd even question bills
knowledge in the first place. anyway, the fact that there is no relay, tells me that they are using the switch (high/low) probably as the device to carry the circuit load. increasing the electrical load most certainly fried the high low switch. it probably overheated and is now sticking Jamie. thats why when you click to turn them down, they just dim. the switch is attampting to disconnect the circuit, but it can't because its melted closed and just getting a smaller connection, with less area for power to travel through. If the switch is on the steering column, is certainly a pain in the ass. at least it was on my POS YJ. You'll have to pull the steering wheel, etc.... I think I'd just take it into the shop if I were U. then you'd get a warranty with the work. If you want to tackle it yourself. Its not that hard, just a bit trying while installing the new switch and lining a couple of items up. not rocket science. You will need a special tool to remove the steering wheel, but any parts store tool area should have it for around 15-20 USA dollars. You can do it in a day. I think my switch cost me around $80 from the dealer.... You can test the switch if you have your repair manual, and a meter. just unplug it from the harness. at certain switch points you'll have a certain reading. its all spelled out in the repair manual. get that manual and meter, then go test your switch! Jamie Mello wrote: >Yea you saved me a lot of time looking for that relay. Thanks alot >Jamie -- Message posted via http://www.carkb.com |
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usually the bulbs are ok as they are
i would bet the multifunction switch is bad did the trun signals not cancel after turning steering wheel? Jamie Mello wrote: > Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need > to > replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guys know > how > I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for > my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks > Jamie |
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by each lite with the hood open you will see wires grounded to the body
those are the grounds for the ft.lites make sure they are clean and tight Jamie Mello wrote: > Is it very hard to replaced the high/low beams switch? I think that > there should be a relay for the headlights.But I checked all the > relays none of them go to the headlights.You all have been a big help. > Thanks Jamie |
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L.W.(ßill)------ III wrote:
> Hi Jamie, > You asking us to look at your teeth over the phone, analogy. You told us > you have a hundred watt lamps, that will need additional relays as Mike > said. Find the instructions via a shop that sells them. Then trouble shoot > with at least a voltmeter. A friend makes a very good living fixing f*ckups: > http://www.keithautomotive.com/ I'm sure he got plenty of business from you. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:----------@----------.com > http://www.----------.com/jeep_bookmark.htm > > > "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:2425d944-fb66-4391-ae7c-da06d3c91992@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> Oh I did not know that.Do you guys have any clue on what I may need >> to >> replace? I hope it will be cheap and easy.And any of you guys know >> how >> I should wire up the relay for the headlights. I have done relays for >> my offroad lights is it very munch diffrent for the hella's? Thanks >> Jamie > > > |
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kk The turn single switch doe's still cancel when I turn the wheel.
Just the high beams do not turn off all the way. Thanks Jamie |
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Jamie,
The Turn Signal switch is really called a Combo Switch because it does a combination of functions. Each of these functions is independent of the others. There is absolutely no value in knowing that the Turn Signals turn off automatically when you turn the wheel, but the high beams remain on. If you had trouble with the Brake Lights, and the trouble changed if you fiddle with the Turn Signals, there is value in knowing this condition. But, the Low & High Beams and Turn Signals are completely separate functions, and have no relationship to each other. The combo switch can easily have a failure that causes the high beams to remain on anytime the lights are on, and the turn signals will work properly at the same time. "Jamie Mello" <carkeyscc@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:9e98a7e3-b75c-4fdf-af55-14cdf55c9329@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > kk The turn single switch doe's still cancel when I turn the wheel. > Just the high beams do not turn off all the way. Thanks Jamie |
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