Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

6 Cherokee 4.0

I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...

I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
"GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
dim when the starter is engaged.

I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
fuse. It looks good.

Any thoughts?

One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
still at the store....

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks in advancec

TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
loose/defective/dirty/corroded.

Jerry
--
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"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> 6 Cherokee 4.0
>
> I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
> forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
> has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
> All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>
> I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
> "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
> Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
> clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
> dim when the starter is engaged.
>
> I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
> not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
> fuse. It looks good.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
> still at the store....
>
> Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advancec
>
> TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
loose/defective/dirty/corroded.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> 6 Cherokee 4.0
>
> I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
> forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
> has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
> All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>
> I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
> "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
> Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
> clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
> dim when the starter is engaged.
>
> I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
> not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
> fuse. It looks good.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
> still at the store....
>
> Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advancec
>
> TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
loose/defective/dirty/corroded.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
> 6 Cherokee 4.0
>
> I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
> forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
> has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
> All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>
> I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
> "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
> Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
> clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
> dim when the starter is engaged.
>
> I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
> not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
> fuse. It looks good.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
> still at the store....
>
> Any suggestions are welcome.
>
> Thanks in advancec
>
> TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

What Jerry said. If the lights don't dim when you hit the
starter, it has to be the cable from the solenoid to the starter.
Try cranking it for a bit, feel around for a hot cable or
connection.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
> loose/defective/dirty/corroded.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
>
>>6 Cherokee 4.0
>>
>>I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
>>forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
>>has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
>>All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>>
>>I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
>>"GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
>>Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
>>clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
>>dim when the starter is engaged.
>>
>>I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
>>not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
>>fuse. It looks good.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
>>still at the store....
>>
>>Any suggestions are welcome.
>>
>>Thanks in advancec
>>
>>TWR
>
>
>

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

What Jerry said. If the lights don't dim when you hit the
starter, it has to be the cable from the solenoid to the starter.
Try cranking it for a bit, feel around for a hot cable or
connection.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
> loose/defective/dirty/corroded.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
>
>>6 Cherokee 4.0
>>
>>I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
>>forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
>>has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
>>All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>>
>>I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
>>"GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
>>Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
>>clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
>>dim when the starter is engaged.
>>
>>I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
>>not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
>>fuse. It looks good.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
>>still at the store....
>>
>>Any suggestions are welcome.
>>
>>Thanks in advancec
>>
>>TWR
>
>
>

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

What Jerry said. If the lights don't dim when you hit the
starter, it has to be the cable from the solenoid to the starter.
Try cranking it for a bit, feel around for a hot cable or
connection.

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Sounds exactly like one of the cables going to the battery or starter is
> loose/defective/dirty/corroded.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
>
>>6 Cherokee 4.0
>>
>>I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
>>forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time this
>>has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
>>All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
>>
>>I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
>>"GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
>>Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery. Solenoid
>>clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
>>dim when the starter is engaged.
>>
>>I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it did
>>not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
>>fuse. It looks good.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter while
>>still at the store....
>>
>>Any suggestions are welcome.
>>
>>Thanks in advancec
>>
>>TWR
>
>
>

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Get out a multi-meter an test the resistance from the battery
terminals to the starter...with the battery disco'd, remember. If the
resistance is more than about 100 OHMS, which it should actually be
nowhere near, pull your cables and clean the connections. While you
are at is, put the multi-meter to the battery, and check to see how
many volts it is putting out...the bright lights don't mean all that
much. They are still fairly bright at 10 volts, but if your battery
is putting out less than 10.5 - 11 VDC, you have issues and need to
change it, as well. A fully charged battery that is in good condition
will hold a charge of about 12 - 12.5 VDC, sometimes 13, and will hold
that charge for hours, even with the lights on and the radio playing.
At least 4 hours, in my experiance.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
| 6 Cherokee 4.0
|
| I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
| forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time
this
| has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
| All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
|
| I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
| "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
| Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery.
Solenoid
| clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
| dim when the starter is engaged.
|
| I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it
did
| not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
| fuse. It looks good.
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter
while
| still at the store....
|
| Any suggestions are welcome.
|
| Thanks in advancec
|
| TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Get out a multi-meter an test the resistance from the battery
terminals to the starter...with the battery disco'd, remember. If the
resistance is more than about 100 OHMS, which it should actually be
nowhere near, pull your cables and clean the connections. While you
are at is, put the multi-meter to the battery, and check to see how
many volts it is putting out...the bright lights don't mean all that
much. They are still fairly bright at 10 volts, but if your battery
is putting out less than 10.5 - 11 VDC, you have issues and need to
change it, as well. A fully charged battery that is in good condition
will hold a charge of about 12 - 12.5 VDC, sometimes 13, and will hold
that charge for hours, even with the lights on and the radio playing.
At least 4 hours, in my experiance.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
| 6 Cherokee 4.0
|
| I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
| forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time
this
| has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
| All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
|
| I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
| "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
| Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery.
Solenoid
| clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
| dim when the starter is engaged.
|
| I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it
did
| not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
| fuse. It looks good.
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter
while
| still at the store....
|
| Any suggestions are welcome.
|
| Thanks in advancec
|
| TWR

Re: Help please (AGAIN!!! #%$**)
 

Get out a multi-meter an test the resistance from the battery
terminals to the starter...with the battery disco'd, remember. If the
resistance is more than about 100 OHMS, which it should actually be
nowhere near, pull your cables and clean the connections. While you
are at is, put the multi-meter to the battery, and check to see how
many volts it is putting out...the bright lights don't mean all that
much. They are still fairly bright at 10 volts, but if your battery
is putting out less than 10.5 - 11 VDC, you have issues and need to
change it, as well. A fully charged battery that is in good condition
will hold a charge of about 12 - 12.5 VDC, sometimes 13, and will hold
that charge for hours, even with the lights on and the radio playing.
At least 4 hours, in my experiance.

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"Tom Russell" <tomr@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:83403696.0401092310.1d1c0b23@posting.google.c om...
| 6 Cherokee 4.0
|
| I tried starting her the other day but left her in gear. She lurched
| forward up onto a curb before I shut her down. Not the first time
this
| has happened... I was really surprised when she would not turn over.
| All of the makings of a dead battery... Very strange I thought...
|
| I compression started and drove her home. On the way, I noticed a
| "GEN" light is showing. Drove for a while, still will not turn over.
| Actually, the starter barly cranks. Acts like a dead battery.
Solenoid
| clicks in, very very very slow crank. Lights shine bright and do not
| dim when the starter is engaged.
|
| I replaced the starter (we tested the old one at the store and it
did
| not spin...) put the new starter in. Same thing. Checked the inline
| fuse. It looks good.
|
| Any thoughts?
|
| One thing I wish I had done was to check the replacement starter
while
| still at the store....
|
| Any suggestions are welcome.
|
| Thanks in advancec
|
| TWR