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JohnE.P.--JEP 11-24-2004 11:03 PM

HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five monthes,
my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at olymic 4X4
(90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old one,
cleaned it all out dryed it all,
then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the gasket
and it was seated correctly,
tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the dash
and
from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
,
i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
,
was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
,
help, please,
John Pike,
email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
or here,
anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again

HarryS 11-25-2004 06:56 AM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
top and bottom of the window.

If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.

HarryS

"JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> monthes,
> my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> olymic 4X4
> (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> one,
> cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> gasket
> and it was seated correctly,
> tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> dash
> and
> from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> ,
> i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> ,
> was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> ,
> help, please,
> John Pike,
> email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> or here,
> anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again




HarryS 11-25-2004 06:56 AM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
top and bottom of the window.

If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.

HarryS

"JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> monthes,
> my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> olymic 4X4
> (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> one,
> cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> gasket
> and it was seated correctly,
> tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> dash
> and
> from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> ,
> i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> ,
> was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> ,
> help, please,
> John Pike,
> email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> or here,
> anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again




HarryS 11-25-2004 06:56 AM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
top and bottom of the window.

If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.

HarryS

"JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> monthes,
> my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> olymic 4X4
> (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> one,
> cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> gasket
> and it was seated correctly,
> tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> dash
> and
> from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> ,
> i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> ,
> was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> ,
> help, please,
> John Pike,
> email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> or here,
> anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again




JohnE.P.--JEP 11-25-2004 04:01 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
Harry,
my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
,
oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
,
thanks all, for the support,
johnp

"HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> top and bottom of the window.
>
> If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
>
> HarryS
>
> "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > monthes,
> > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > olymic 4X4
> > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > one,
> > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > gasket
> > and it was seated correctly,
> > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > dash
> > and
> > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > ,
> > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > ,
> > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > ,
> > help, please,
> > John Pike,
> > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > or here,
> > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again


JohnE.P.--JEP 11-25-2004 04:01 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
Harry,
my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
,
oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
,
thanks all, for the support,
johnp

"HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> top and bottom of the window.
>
> If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
>
> HarryS
>
> "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > monthes,
> > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > olymic 4X4
> > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > one,
> > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > gasket
> > and it was seated correctly,
> > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > dash
> > and
> > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > ,
> > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > ,
> > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > ,
> > help, please,
> > John Pike,
> > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > or here,
> > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again


JohnE.P.--JEP 11-25-2004 04:01 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
Harry,
my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
,
oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
,
thanks all, for the support,
johnp

"HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> top and bottom of the window.
>
> If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
>
> HarryS
>
> "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > monthes,
> > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > olymic 4X4
> > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > one,
> > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > gasket
> > and it was seated correctly,
> > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > dash
> > and
> > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > ,
> > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > ,
> > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > ,
> > help, please,
> > John Pike,
> > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > or here,
> > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again


Mike Romain 11-25-2004 04:40 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
I feel sorry for you.... RTV silicone just became your biggest
nightmare, not friend today....

The stuff will cure and out gas for months/years. The gas is acetic
acid based. This will mix with any humidity or water and eat the steel
frame. This will rot it away fast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"JohnE.P.--JEP" wrote:
>
> Harry,
> my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
> yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
> i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
> in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
> then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
> used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
> so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
> its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
> ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
> but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
> ,
> oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
> to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
> ,
> thanks all, for the support,
> johnp
>
> "HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> > First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> > compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> > in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> > top and bottom of the window.
> >
> > If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> > be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> > circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> > around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> > to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> > OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
> >
> > HarryS
> >
> > "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > > monthes,
> > > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > > olymic 4X4
> > > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > > one,
> > > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > > gasket
> > > and it was seated correctly,
> > > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > > dash
> > > and
> > > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > > ,
> > > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > > ,
> > > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > > ,
> > > help, please,
> > > John Pike,
> > > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > > or here,
> > > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again


Mike Romain 11-25-2004 04:40 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
I feel sorry for you.... RTV silicone just became your biggest
nightmare, not friend today....

The stuff will cure and out gas for months/years. The gas is acetic
acid based. This will mix with any humidity or water and eat the steel
frame. This will rot it away fast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"JohnE.P.--JEP" wrote:
>
> Harry,
> my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
> yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
> i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
> in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
> then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
> used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
> so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
> its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
> ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
> but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
> ,
> oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
> to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
> ,
> thanks all, for the support,
> johnp
>
> "HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> > First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> > compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> > in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> > top and bottom of the window.
> >
> > If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> > be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> > circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> > around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> > to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> > OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
> >
> > HarryS
> >
> > "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > > monthes,
> > > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > > olymic 4X4
> > > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > > one,
> > > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > > gasket
> > > and it was seated correctly,
> > > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > > dash
> > > and
> > > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > > ,
> > > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > > ,
> > > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > > ,
> > > help, please,
> > > John Pike,
> > > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > > or here,
> > > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again


Mike Romain 11-25-2004 04:40 PM

Re: HELP my Jeeps Drowning
 
I feel sorry for you.... RTV silicone just became your biggest
nightmare, not friend today....

The stuff will cure and out gas for months/years. The gas is acetic
acid based. This will mix with any humidity or water and eat the steel
frame. This will rot it away fast.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"JohnE.P.--JEP" wrote:
>
> Harry,
> my new replacement didnt come with the tape, so,
> yes silicone became my friend today,,,,acualy rtv,silicone,
> i dropped the windshield, and goodped all,,top and bottom, 9ll replace
> in spring, if the sun comes back out,,,
> then,,,got all back togeather,,,again,,,,,
> used the hose, and low and behold more waterfalls inside,,,grrrrrrr,
> so i finaly figured it was coming outove the winshield frame,
> its leaking "in" from where the softop meets the frame channel,
> ran out of caalking so i have to wait till tommorrow,
> but at least now i know where one of the major ones are,
> ,
> oh i drilled out the corners of my windshield frame on the inside,
> to let the water drain,,,alot of water,,
> ,
> thanks all, for the support,
> johnp
>
> "HarryS" <NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:<S8OdnaJ6wtPIVTjcRVn-rQ@comcast.com>...
> > First try adjusting the bar to allow the window to pull back further to
> > compress the gasket and check your wiper motor cover ensure it is up tight
> > in the lip of the gasket this assists in compressing the gasket against the
> > top and bottom of the window.
> >
> > If all else fails and you do not need to drop your windshield silicone can
> > be your friend. Remove the gasket, run a bead around the complete
> > circumference of the dash mating area, replace the gasket, and do the same
> > around the bottom of the windshield. I did this on my CJ when it came time
> > to replace the gasket because aftermarket gaskets are not as good as the
> > OEMs. It should be as leak proof as a frogs butt.
> >
> > HarryS
> >
> > "JohnE.P.--JEP" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:4c777fae.0411242003.743461c7@posting.google.c om...
> > > OK i need help, its raining like crazy and going to for the next five
> > > monthes,
> > > my cowl/winshield gasket was toast so i went and bought a new one at
> > > olymic 4X4
> > > (90YJ) i unhooked all my crap on the winshield,,bars,,and inside plates,
> > > softtop bars, rolled the top back, dropped the winshield unscrewed the old
> > > one,
> > > cleaned it all out dryed it all,
> > > then replaced it with the new one, making shure ithe lips were into the
> > > gasket
> > > and it was seated correctly,
> > > tilted the windshield back up and re-assembled it all,
> > > so now its been sitting outside in the pouring rain and ya you guessed it,
> > > my floor-boards are soaked,,and carpet, im dripping water from under the
> > > dash
> > > and
> > > from the corners by the plates above the speakers,
> > > ,
> > > i need help,,or my dash is gonna rot, or give up the electrical ghost,
> > > ,
> > > was i supposed to calk behind the outside lip?
> > > was i supposed to calk anywhere on the gasket,,top,,bottom??
> > > ,
> > > help, please,
> > > John Pike,
> > > email me at scope_addict "at" verizon "dot" net
> > > or here,
> > > anything quick would be most apriciated,, thanks again



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