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Eric 05-22-2005 07:27 PM

Help! Clutch problems
 
My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale. Finally
found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The kits
online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about $130
shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?

Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the pedal
felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went to
the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under it
and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair of
pliers to get it out.

Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
since... well, since I can remember.

Eric
99 TJ SE



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2005 08:35 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Hi Eric,
I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
couple.
You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale. Finally
> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The kits
> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about $130
> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>
> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the pedal
> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went to
> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under it
> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair of
> pliers to get it out.
>
> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
> since... well, since I can remember.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2005 08:35 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Hi Eric,
I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
couple.
You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale. Finally
> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The kits
> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about $130
> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>
> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the pedal
> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went to
> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under it
> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair of
> pliers to get it out.
>
> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
> since... well, since I can remember.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2005 08:35 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Hi Eric,
I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
couple.
You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale. Finally
> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The kits
> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about $130
> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>
> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the pedal
> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went to
> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under it
> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair of
> pliers to get it out.
>
> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
> since... well, since I can remember.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2005 08:35 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Hi Eric,
I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
couple.
You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale. Finally
> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The kits
> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about $130
> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>
> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the pedal
> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went to
> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under it
> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair of
> pliers to get it out.
>
> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
> since... well, since I can remember.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Eric 05-22-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Guess I'll give Pep Boys a shot tomorrow. Don't have Kragen here...

The places online that offer the slave itself are all the same part -- it's
made by Omix-Ada. NO ONE has a good photo of one, though. Wish I could see
it to make sure I was ordering the right part! This is my daily driver and
I really don't want to be out too long (but don't want to get ripped off by
the dealer either).

Really, I was just concerned about whether I should replace them both at the
same time (thinking one worn part leading to another). I figured you'd be
the first to reply. Was waiting for it. ;-) Thanks, Bill.

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42912567.C4E3540E@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
> stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
> place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
> couple.
> You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
> seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
>> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale.
>> Finally
>> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The
>> kits
>> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about
>> $130
>> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
>> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
>> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>>
>> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
>> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the
>> pedal
>> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went
>> to
>> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under
>> it
>> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
>> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair
>> of
>> pliers to get it out.
>>
>> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
>> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
>> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
>> since... well, since I can remember.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 05-22-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Guess I'll give Pep Boys a shot tomorrow. Don't have Kragen here...

The places online that offer the slave itself are all the same part -- it's
made by Omix-Ada. NO ONE has a good photo of one, though. Wish I could see
it to make sure I was ordering the right part! This is my daily driver and
I really don't want to be out too long (but don't want to get ripped off by
the dealer either).

Really, I was just concerned about whether I should replace them both at the
same time (thinking one worn part leading to another). I figured you'd be
the first to reply. Was waiting for it. ;-) Thanks, Bill.

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42912567.C4E3540E@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
> stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
> place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
> couple.
> You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
> seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
>> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale.
>> Finally
>> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The
>> kits
>> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about
>> $130
>> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
>> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
>> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>>
>> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
>> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the
>> pedal
>> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went
>> to
>> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under
>> it
>> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
>> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair
>> of
>> pliers to get it out.
>>
>> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
>> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
>> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
>> since... well, since I can remember.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 05-22-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Guess I'll give Pep Boys a shot tomorrow. Don't have Kragen here...

The places online that offer the slave itself are all the same part -- it's
made by Omix-Ada. NO ONE has a good photo of one, though. Wish I could see
it to make sure I was ordering the right part! This is my daily driver and
I really don't want to be out too long (but don't want to get ripped off by
the dealer either).

Really, I was just concerned about whether I should replace them both at the
same time (thinking one worn part leading to another). I figured you'd be
the first to reply. Was waiting for it. ;-) Thanks, Bill.

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42912567.C4E3540E@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
> stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
> place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
> couple.
> You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
> seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
>> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale.
>> Finally
>> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The
>> kits
>> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about
>> $130
>> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
>> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
>> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>>
>> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
>> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the
>> pedal
>> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went
>> to
>> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under
>> it
>> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
>> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair
>> of
>> pliers to get it out.
>>
>> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
>> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
>> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
>> since... well, since I can remember.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




Eric 05-22-2005 08:43 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Guess I'll give Pep Boys a shot tomorrow. Don't have Kragen here...

The places online that offer the slave itself are all the same part -- it's
made by Omix-Ada. NO ONE has a good photo of one, though. Wish I could see
it to make sure I was ordering the right part! This is my daily driver and
I really don't want to be out too long (but don't want to get ripped off by
the dealer either).

Really, I was just concerned about whether I should replace them both at the
same time (thinking one worn part leading to another). I figured you'd be
the first to reply. Was waiting for it. ;-) Thanks, Bill.

Eric
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42912567.C4E3540E@cox.net...
> Hi Eric,
> I like to replace just the part needed, but I realize many parts
> stores will only sell them as a sealed unit. Napa is absolutely the last
> place I go for a part. I had good luck with Kragen, and Pep Boys, for a
> couple.
> You friend may have a Real pressure plate, like the Hot Rodder use,
> seen at the bottom of: http://www.----------.com/clutch/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> My clutch bit the dust. Well, my clutch slave cylinder actually bit the
>> dust. I'm having a heck of a time finding the the slave for sale.
>> Finally
>> found a couple of them online (dealer wants $240 for some "kit"). The
>> kits
>> online (to include both master and slave cylinders with hose) is about
>> $130
>> shipped to my door. It's about $50 for just the slave. Why on earth can
>> online places get this but not the normal "parts stores" (i.e. Napa,
>> Autozone, OReilly, Advanced Auto, etc)?
>>
>> Should I replace just the slave? Would the master now be bad too? I had
>> just gone over a curb into the grass (long story, don't ask) when the
>> pedal
>> felt strange (I assumed it was my gears somewhere) then the clutch went
>> to
>> the floor. I assumed I had blown the clutch or something. Looked under
>> it
>> and fluid was flowing from the slave. Had a friend help me pull it and
>> found the shaft had actually shot into the clutch. He had to get a pair
>> of
>> pliers to get it out.
>>
>> Later I climbed into a buddy's TJ, and realized that slave must've been
>> going for some time. I couldn't even drive his. I couldn't control the
>> clutch -- it had too much spring to it! Mine hasn't had that spring
>> since... well, since I can remember.
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-22-2005 09:50 PM

Re: Help! Clutch problems
 
Hi Eric,
This drawing will give a rough idea of what it looks like, pushing
a fork that pivots on the other side of the bellhousing:
http://www.----------.com/clutchControl.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> Guess I'll give Pep Boys a shot tomorrow. Don't have Kragen here...
>
> The places online that offer the slave itself are all the same part -- it's
> made by Omix-Ada. NO ONE has a good photo of one, though. Wish I could see
> it to make sure I was ordering the right part! This is my daily driver and
> I really don't want to be out too long (but don't want to get ripped off by
> the dealer either).
>
> Really, I was just concerned about whether I should replace them both at the
> same time (thinking one worn part leading to another). I figured you'd be
> the first to reply. Was waiting for it. ;-) Thanks, Bill.



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