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RANDALL HAMILTON 08-09-2005 07:32 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
start replacing parts at random. Thanks
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>
> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> line is crimped somewhere.
>
> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>
> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> to the brake line?
>
> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> line and it needs to be replaced.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>> job'.
>> ;-)
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>
>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>
>




RANDALL HAMILTON 08-09-2005 07:32 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
start replacing parts at random. Thanks
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>
> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> line is crimped somewhere.
>
> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>
> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> to the brake line?
>
> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> line and it needs to be replaced.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>> job'.
>> ;-)
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>
>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>
>




RANDALL HAMILTON 08-09-2005 07:32 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
start replacing parts at random. Thanks
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>
> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> line is crimped somewhere.
>
> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>
> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> to the brake line?
>
> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> line and it needs to be replaced.
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>> job'.
>> ;-)
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>
>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>
>




Billy Ray 08-09-2005 09:42 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
Did you bleed the new master cylinder before you installed it?

Additional information is going to your e-address


"RANDALL HAMILTON" <RLHAMILTON@PRODIGY.NET> wrote in message
news:Zu0Ke.864$FV1.817@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
>> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>>
>> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
>> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
>> line is crimped somewhere.
>>
>> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
>> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
>> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>>
>> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
>> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
>> to the brake line?
>>
>> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and
>> take that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the
>> flexible line and it needs to be replaced.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>>> job'.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get
>>>> any
>>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>>
>>

>
>




Billy Ray 08-09-2005 09:42 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
Did you bleed the new master cylinder before you installed it?

Additional information is going to your e-address


"RANDALL HAMILTON" <RLHAMILTON@PRODIGY.NET> wrote in message
news:Zu0Ke.864$FV1.817@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
>> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>>
>> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
>> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
>> line is crimped somewhere.
>>
>> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
>> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
>> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>>
>> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
>> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
>> to the brake line?
>>
>> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and
>> take that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the
>> flexible line and it needs to be replaced.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>>> job'.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get
>>>> any
>>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>>
>>

>
>




Billy Ray 08-09-2005 09:42 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
Did you bleed the new master cylinder before you installed it?

Additional information is going to your e-address


"RANDALL HAMILTON" <RLHAMILTON@PRODIGY.NET> wrote in message
news:Zu0Ke.864$FV1.817@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
>> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>>
>> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
>> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
>> line is crimped somewhere.
>>
>> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
>> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
>> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>>
>> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
>> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
>> to the brake line?
>>
>> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and
>> take that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the
>> flexible line and it needs to be replaced.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>>> job'.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get
>>>> any
>>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>>
>>

>
>




Billy Ray 08-09-2005 09:42 AM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
Did you bleed the new master cylinder before you installed it?

Additional information is going to your e-address


"RANDALL HAMILTON" <RLHAMILTON@PRODIGY.NET> wrote in message
news:Zu0Ke.864$FV1.817@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com. ..
>I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
>> Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
>>
>> There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
>> that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
>> line is crimped somewhere.
>>
>> When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
>> were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
>> hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
>>
>> Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
>> jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
>> to the brake line?
>>
>> Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and
>> take that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the
>> flexible line and it needs to be replaced.
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
>>> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
>>> job'.
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get
>>>> any
>>>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

>>
>>

>
>




Mike Romain 08-09-2005 12:28 PM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
The combination valves don't fail often and when they do usually they
take out two of the wheels.....

I would be suspecting a bad flex hose.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>
> I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> > Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
> >
> > There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> > that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> > line is crimped somewhere.
> >
> > When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> > were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> > hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
> >
> > Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> > jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> > to the brake line?
> >
> > Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> > that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> > line and it needs to be replaced.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
> >> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
> >> job'.
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
> >>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

> >
> >


Mike Romain 08-09-2005 12:28 PM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
The combination valves don't fail often and when they do usually they
take out two of the wheels.....

I would be suspecting a bad flex hose.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>
> I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> > Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
> >
> > There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> > that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> > line is crimped somewhere.
> >
> > When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> > were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> > hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
> >
> > Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> > jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> > to the brake line?
> >
> > Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> > that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> > line and it needs to be replaced.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
> >> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
> >> job'.
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
> >>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

> >
> >


Mike Romain 08-09-2005 12:28 PM

Re: help '87 cherokee brakes
 
The combination valves don't fail often and when they do usually they
take out two of the wheels.....

I would be suspecting a bad flex hose.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
>
> I should have gone into more detail. I replaced the master cylinder both
> calipers, rotors and pads. I didn't do the rear as the shoes had about 70%
> left. Before I started I flushed the system with new fluid. After the new
> gear was installed I ran into this problem. It's been suggested that the
> proportioning valve might be the problem but I don't know how to check it
> out and can't see any way to adjust it. Any suggestions? I hate to just
> start replacing parts at random. Thanks
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6a39b$42f76682$42a1cc8c$8169@FUSE.NET...
> > Okay, we aren't dealing with rocket science, just fluid dynamics.
> >
> > There are really only two possibilities: You have a massive air bubble
> > that has created a hydraulic block and needs to be worked through or the
> > line is crimped somewhere.
> >
> > When you did your brake job did you properly support the caliper when you
> > were taking things apart or did you just let it hand from the flexible
> > hose like 97% of brake technicians do?
> >
> > Did anything unusual happen during the job? Did the jeep fall off the
> > jack stands or something else where physical damage might have been done
> > to the brake line?
> >
> > Try going to the fitting between the flexible and the steel lines and take
> > that apart. If you get brake fluid then you have damaged the flexible
> > line and it needs to be replaced.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42F75629.A5B4ED71@sympatico.ca...
> >> What is your definition of a 'brake job'? Hopefully it wasn't a 'break
> >> job'.
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> RANDALL HAMILTON wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I did a front break job on my 1987 jeep Cherokee and now I can't get any
> >>> fluid to my passenger side caliper. What the heck is happening?

> >
> >



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