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Kevin S 12-01-2004 01:30 PM

Heated Garage or not?
 
I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it for
$200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have read
that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high salt
use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my CJ-7.
Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during the
winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.

Thoughts? Suggestions?



mabar 12-01-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't see how a heated garage would speed up
rusting. Remember, a heated garage does not mean heated to 70 degrees when
it's cold outside. Just keep it heated to about 50 something for faster
vehicle warm-ups on those cold winter days. What difference would it make to
the vehicle's rust problem if the vehicle is in a 50 degree garage or a 25
degree garage?

I am in Cleveland, Ohio, and have an attached garage. We do get cold
winters. Even though the garage is not heated, just the heat escaping from
the walls of my house adjacent to the garage keeps the garage about 20
something degrees (I would guess) warmer than the outside temperature in the
winter.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




mabar 12-01-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't see how a heated garage would speed up
rusting. Remember, a heated garage does not mean heated to 70 degrees when
it's cold outside. Just keep it heated to about 50 something for faster
vehicle warm-ups on those cold winter days. What difference would it make to
the vehicle's rust problem if the vehicle is in a 50 degree garage or a 25
degree garage?

I am in Cleveland, Ohio, and have an attached garage. We do get cold
winters. Even though the garage is not heated, just the heat escaping from
the walls of my house adjacent to the garage keeps the garage about 20
something degrees (I would guess) warmer than the outside temperature in the
winter.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




mabar 12-01-2004 02:10 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
Maybe I am mistaken, but I don't see how a heated garage would speed up
rusting. Remember, a heated garage does not mean heated to 70 degrees when
it's cold outside. Just keep it heated to about 50 something for faster
vehicle warm-ups on those cold winter days. What difference would it make to
the vehicle's rust problem if the vehicle is in a 50 degree garage or a 25
degree garage?

I am in Cleveland, Ohio, and have an attached garage. We do get cold
winters. Even though the garage is not heated, just the heat escaping from
the walls of my house adjacent to the garage keeps the garage about 20
something degrees (I would guess) warmer than the outside temperature in the
winter.

Tom

"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




Jeff Strickland 12-01-2004 02:21 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
I have a kerosene heater that I really enjoy. You have to keep the door up
about an inch so air can get in or let the carbon monoxide out, whatever. In
any case, my heater is cold to the touch, except for the front grill, and it
can be refilled while it is running because the fuel tank comes out, and it
can keep my garage warm. The benefit is that the garage heater is
independent from the rest of the house. I suppose you could have a valve
installed in your garage to shut off the flow to the radiator, and acheive
the same result. Oh, one more thing, I think I paid about the same for my
kerosene heater as the guy is quoting you for a radiator.




"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




Jeff Strickland 12-01-2004 02:21 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
I have a kerosene heater that I really enjoy. You have to keep the door up
about an inch so air can get in or let the carbon monoxide out, whatever. In
any case, my heater is cold to the touch, except for the front grill, and it
can be refilled while it is running because the fuel tank comes out, and it
can keep my garage warm. The benefit is that the garage heater is
independent from the rest of the house. I suppose you could have a valve
installed in your garage to shut off the flow to the radiator, and acheive
the same result. Oh, one more thing, I think I paid about the same for my
kerosene heater as the guy is quoting you for a radiator.




"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




Jeff Strickland 12-01-2004 02:21 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
I have a kerosene heater that I really enjoy. You have to keep the door up
about an inch so air can get in or let the carbon monoxide out, whatever. In
any case, my heater is cold to the touch, except for the front grill, and it
can be refilled while it is running because the fuel tank comes out, and it
can keep my garage warm. The benefit is that the garage heater is
independent from the rest of the house. I suppose you could have a valve
installed in your garage to shut off the flow to the radiator, and acheive
the same result. Oh, one more thing, I think I paid about the same for my
kerosene heater as the guy is quoting you for a radiator.




"Kevin S" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a4ord.32$A81.6742@news.uswest.net...
> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it

for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have

read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high

salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my

CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during

the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>




RoyJ 12-01-2004 02:48 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
In spite of what some other posters have said:

1) heating the garage speeds up the rusting. It's a chemical reaction
that goes faster as a function of the temp. Not only that, if the crud
stays frozen in the garage, you are not bathing the metal in the salt
water. Best thing here is to power wash the underside on a regular basis.

2) The kerosene bullet heaters are decent to make it warm enough to work
on the vehicle. ( I have 2 of them a 40k btu and a 115k btu) Downsides
are the stink from the kerosene, the issue of carbon monoxide (only have
to to do that once to not do it agian, assuming you live through it),
and the amount of water it dumps into the garage. Keep in mind that for
every gallon of kerosene you burn, you dump a gallon of water into the
garage air. Creates lots of rust potential on your tools. Propane
heaters are slightly better on the CO, stink, and water problems but
still are only a temporary fix.

Best bet is a hanging (unit) heater. We see them advertised for around
$500 for a 45kbtu unit, a bit more for the 75kbtu version. Add in the
gas piping and vert stack so they are not cheap.



Kevin S wrote:

> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>


RoyJ 12-01-2004 02:48 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
In spite of what some other posters have said:

1) heating the garage speeds up the rusting. It's a chemical reaction
that goes faster as a function of the temp. Not only that, if the crud
stays frozen in the garage, you are not bathing the metal in the salt
water. Best thing here is to power wash the underside on a regular basis.

2) The kerosene bullet heaters are decent to make it warm enough to work
on the vehicle. ( I have 2 of them a 40k btu and a 115k btu) Downsides
are the stink from the kerosene, the issue of carbon monoxide (only have
to to do that once to not do it agian, assuming you live through it),
and the amount of water it dumps into the garage. Keep in mind that for
every gallon of kerosene you burn, you dump a gallon of water into the
garage air. Creates lots of rust potential on your tools. Propane
heaters are slightly better on the CO, stink, and water problems but
still are only a temporary fix.

Best bet is a hanging (unit) heater. We see them advertised for around
$500 for a 45kbtu unit, a bit more for the 75kbtu version. Add in the
gas piping and vert stack so they are not cheap.



Kevin S wrote:

> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>


RoyJ 12-01-2004 02:48 PM

Re: Heated Garage or not?
 
In spite of what some other posters have said:

1) heating the garage speeds up the rusting. It's a chemical reaction
that goes faster as a function of the temp. Not only that, if the crud
stays frozen in the garage, you are not bathing the metal in the salt
water. Best thing here is to power wash the underside on a regular basis.

2) The kerosene bullet heaters are decent to make it warm enough to work
on the vehicle. ( I have 2 of them a 40k btu and a 115k btu) Downsides
are the stink from the kerosene, the issue of carbon monoxide (only have
to to do that once to not do it agian, assuming you live through it),
and the amount of water it dumps into the garage. Keep in mind that for
every gallon of kerosene you burn, you dump a gallon of water into the
garage air. Creates lots of rust potential on your tools. Propane
heaters are slightly better on the CO, stink, and water problems but
still are only a temporary fix.

Best bet is a hanging (unit) heater. We see them advertised for around
$500 for a 45kbtu unit, a bit more for the 75kbtu version. Add in the
gas piping and vert stack so they are not cheap.



Kevin S wrote:

> I just had the heater man out to fix my heat, and I talked to him about
> adding a heat register for my garage. He said he could probably add it for
> $200-$300 and it would just use hot water returning to the boiler from any
> of the other zones, so it would essentially heat a bit anytime an of the
> other zones got heated. My garage is drywalled and insulated. I have read
> that people don't recommend heated garages in areas where you have high salt
> use, because it will speed up rust. We don't use salt in my area and it
> would sure be nice to have a heated garage to work in as I rebuild my CJ-7.
> Once my CJ-7 is done it will be stored outdoors under a car cover during the
> winter and my Cherokee and fiance's Camry will come back inside.
>
> Thoughts? Suggestions?
>
>



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