HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
about it & his response was -
"Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
closing your doors."
Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
"adapter moldings" he mentioned?

TIA - Jersey

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

i run my soft doors (soft uppers and lowers) with my hardtop on occassion
and they seem to seal as good as they do on the soft top.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

i run my soft doors (soft uppers and lowers) with my hardtop on occassion
and they seem to seal as good as they do on the soft top.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

i run my soft doors (soft uppers and lowers) with my hardtop on occassion
and they seem to seal as good as they do on the soft top.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com


"Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> about it & his response was -
> "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> closing your doors."
> Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
>
> TIA - Jersey
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Just to clarify... I would agree if you were buying a softtop for a Jeep
that only came with a hardtop as you'd need the plastic window surrounds
that are present on the softtop models. However, I think those window
surrounds basically match up to the form of the hardtop so putting a hardtop
on would negate the need for the surrounds.

Maybe I'm missing something.

"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:_%HZb.5143$6j4.4424@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
> it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
> varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.
>
>
> "Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> > Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> > Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> > Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> > that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> > I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> > about it & his response was -
> > "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> > with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> > doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> > a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> > this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> > closing your doors."
> > Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> > looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> > "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
> >
> > TIA - Jersey
> >
> >
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Just to clarify... I would agree if you were buying a softtop for a Jeep
that only came with a hardtop as you'd need the plastic window surrounds
that are present on the softtop models. However, I think those window
surrounds basically match up to the form of the hardtop so putting a hardtop
on would negate the need for the surrounds.

Maybe I'm missing something.

"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:_%HZb.5143$6j4.4424@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
> it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
> varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.
>
>
> "Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> > Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> > Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> > Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> > that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> > I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> > about it & his response was -
> > "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> > with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> > doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> > a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> > this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> > closing your doors."
> > Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> > looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> > "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
> >
> > TIA - Jersey
> >
> >
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Just to clarify... I would agree if you were buying a softtop for a Jeep
that only came with a hardtop as you'd need the plastic window surrounds
that are present on the softtop models. However, I think those window
surrounds basically match up to the form of the hardtop so putting a hardtop
on would negate the need for the surrounds.

Maybe I'm missing something.

"Ichabod Shagnasti" <murfysflaw@nospamhere.com> wrote in message
news:_%HZb.5143$6j4.4424@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm not sure that's true. Of course, I don't have a hardtop, but assuming
> it were true, it would seem that hard doors would then come in 2
> varieties... 1 type for use with a softop and 1 for use with a hardtop.
>
>
> "Jersey" <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> > I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
> > Ok, OK, so I'm a cheap SOB & looking for the deal of a lifetime.
> > Actually I'm trying to find the deal of a lifetime in my area (Tampa)
> > Now to the question - Someone has a hardtop listed & is saying
> > that it "Requires your Jeep to be equiped with the full hard doors."
> > I've never been aware of this fact before so I wrote & asked him
> > about it & his response was -
> > "Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
> > with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
> > doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
> > a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
> > this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
> > closing your doors."
> > Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
> > looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
> > "adapter moldings" he mentioned?
> >
> > TIA - Jersey
> >
> >
>
>

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

In article <MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> writes:

>"Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
>with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
>doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
>a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
>this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
>closing your doors."
>Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
>looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
>"adapter moldings" he mentioned?

He must have a set of hard doors to sell as well, because he's blowing smoke up
your skirt. If hard doors fit with the soft top (as would be the case with the
factory dual-top option) than it stands to reason that soft doors will fit with
the hardtop. And since I have both hard and soft doors and a hardtop and softop
for my '00 TJ, that is my experience. What may happen is when driving with
hardtop and soft doors, a wind gust may displace the soft door frame for a
second and make a gap. But that happens with the soft top too.

You need "adapter moldings" for the soft top, but you already have those...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

In article <MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> writes:

>"Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
>with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
>doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
>a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
>this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
>closing your doors."
>Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
>looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
>"adapter moldings" he mentioned?

He must have a set of hard doors to sell as well, because he's blowing smoke up
your skirt. If hard doors fit with the soft top (as would be the case with the
factory dual-top option) than it stands to reason that soft doors will fit with
the hardtop. And since I have both hard and soft doors and a hardtop and softop
for my '00 TJ, that is my experience. What may happen is when driving with
hardtop and soft doors, a wind gust may displace the soft door frame for a
second and make a gap. But that happens with the soft top too.

You need "adapter moldings" for the soft top, but you already have those...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

In article <MJ-dnX1zy4SAoqrdRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> writes:

>"Most sellers don't tell you that the hard top needs the hard doors
>with roll up windows to close with a complete fit. If you have the half
>doors with plastic, zipper windows the doors when closed will leave
>a big openning over the top of the window. The only way to correct
>this is to buy the full doors or adapter moldings to insure a fit when
>closing your doors."
>Now this is a new wrinkle into my search for the best deal & I'm not
>looking to do full doors but can anyone enlighten me on these
>"adapter moldings" he mentioned?

He must have a set of hard doors to sell as well, because he's blowing smoke up
your skirt. If hard doors fit with the soft top (as would be the case with the
factory dual-top option) than it stands to reason that soft doors will fit with
the hardtop. And since I have both hard and soft doors and a hardtop and softop
for my '00 TJ, that is my experience. What may happen is when driving with
hardtop and soft doors, a wind gust may displace the soft door frame for a
second and make a gap. But that happens with the soft top too.

You need "adapter moldings" for the soft top, but you already have those...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:

>I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.

I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:

>I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.

I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
<IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:

>I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.

I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Ya'll right. Me thinks this guy has his info bassackwards.
When he's talking about "adapter moldings" it sure does
sound like the moldings for soft top that he's confusing
somehow to be needed with a hard top. I did go back to
see if he had a set of doors for sale & no he doesn't.
It looks more like he's just a another poor misinformed individual.
Apparently he's not hooked into this newsgroup.
Thanx for all the input fella's.

L8r - Jersey

"me" <me@me.spam> wrote in message
news:2k6f309s2v4sthc1ht161ojjr8duf6c65e@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
> <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
>
> I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
> three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
> doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
> desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Ya'll right. Me thinks this guy has his info bassackwards.
When he's talking about "adapter moldings" it sure does
sound like the moldings for soft top that he's confusing
somehow to be needed with a hard top. I did go back to
see if he had a set of doors for sale & no he doesn't.
It looks more like he's just a another poor misinformed individual.
Apparently he's not hooked into this newsgroup.
Thanx for all the input fella's.

L8r - Jersey

"me" <me@me.spam> wrote in message
news:2k6f309s2v4sthc1ht161ojjr8duf6c65e@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
> <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
>
> I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
> three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
> doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
> desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Ya'll right. Me thinks this guy has his info bassackwards.
When he's talking about "adapter moldings" it sure does
sound like the moldings for soft top that he's confusing
somehow to be needed with a hard top. I did go back to
see if he had a set of doors for sale & no he doesn't.
It looks more like he's just a another poor misinformed individual.
Apparently he's not hooked into this newsgroup.
Thanx for all the input fella's.

L8r - Jersey

"me" <me@me.spam> wrote in message
news:2k6f309s2v4sthc1ht161ojjr8duf6c65e@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 06:21:01 -0500, "Jersey"
> <IamHellbound@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm still looking to grab a Hardtop for my 2004 TJ offa eBay.
>
> I say BS.. I have a hard top and both the OEM softtop and the
> three peice one the dealer sells, both full hard doors and half
> doors with my '03 and I can use them in any combination I so
> desire, with no problems..

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

this is what he thinks you need.

http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...102750&T1=1119
6%2B21&UREQA=1&UREQB=2&UREQC=3&UREQD=4&FNM=10&x=77 &y=51

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

this is what he thinks you need.

http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...102750&T1=1119
6%2B21&UREQA=1&UREQB=2&UREQC=3&UREQD=4&FNM=10&x=77 &y=51

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

this is what he thinks you need.

http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...102750&T1=1119
6%2B21&UREQA=1&UREQB=2&UREQC=3&UREQD=4&FNM=10&x=77 &y=51

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Once up a time...when converting...I had the hardtop on and the soft 1/2
doors...spent a couple of
days that way and they fit just fine.

Walt Johnson
KB2UOU
1999 TJ with both tops, both sets of doors.

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Once up a time...when converting...I had the hardtop on and the soft 1/2
doors...spent a couple of
days that way and they fit just fine.

Walt Johnson
KB2UOU
1999 TJ with both tops, both sets of doors.

Re: HArd Top = Full Doors???
 

Once up a time...when converting...I had the hardtop on and the soft 1/2
doors...spent a couple of
days that way and they fit just fine.

Walt Johnson
KB2UOU
1999 TJ with both tops, both sets of doors.