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Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle body. When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in place. Mike Lon wrote: > > Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get > everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership > in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on > my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters. > > Mike Romain proclaimed: > > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS > > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster. > > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by > > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of > > cleaning them is dramatic. > > > > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it > > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what > > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at > > 650 rpm. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > Seahag wrote: > > > >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the > >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start > >>it. I got the same laggy start. > >> > >>Seahag > >> > >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >> > >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already > >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she > >>>starts normally. > >>> > >>>Seahag > >>> > >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: > >>> > >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a > >>>>few seconds. > >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter. > >>>>If it fires > >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the > >>>>likely culprit. > >>>> > >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start > >>>>>lately. > >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the > >>>>>last > >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with > >>>>>his > >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. > >>>>>Thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>>Seahag > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com > >>> > >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle body. When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in place. Mike Lon wrote: > > Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get > everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership > in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on > my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters. > > Mike Romain proclaimed: > > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS > > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster. > > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by > > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of > > cleaning them is dramatic. > > > > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it > > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what > > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at > > 650 rpm. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > Seahag wrote: > > > >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the > >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start > >>it. I got the same laggy start. > >> > >>Seahag > >> > >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >> > >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already > >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she > >>>starts normally. > >>> > >>>Seahag > >>> > >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: > >>> > >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a > >>>>few seconds. > >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter. > >>>>If it fires > >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the > >>>>likely culprit. > >>>> > >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start > >>>>>lately. > >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the > >>>>>last > >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with > >>>>>his > >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. > >>>>>Thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>>Seahag > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com > >>> > >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in
and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle body. When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in place. Mike Lon wrote: > > Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get > everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership > in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on > my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters. > > Mike Romain proclaimed: > > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS > > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster. > > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by > > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of > > cleaning them is dramatic. > > > > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it > > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what > > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring at > > 650 rpm. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > Seahag wrote: > > > >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the > >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start > >>it. I got the same laggy start. > >> > >>Seahag > >> > >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >> > >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already > >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she > >>>starts normally. > >>> > >>>Seahag > >>> > >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: > >>> > >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a > >>>>few seconds. > >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter. > >>>>If it fires > >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the > >>>>likely culprit. > >>>> > >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start > >>>>>lately. > >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the > >>>>>last > >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with > >>>>>his > >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. > >>>>>Thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>>Seahag > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com > >>> > >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca... > When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray > everything in > and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it > sit, then hit > it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove > the throttle > body. > > When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave > everything in > place. > > Mike > > Lon wrote: >> >> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body >> to get >> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my >> full membership >> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has >> been an item on >> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 >> if it matters. >> >> Mike Romain proclaimed: >> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle >> > body and the CPS >> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a >> > lot faster. >> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can >> > be affected by >> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but >> > the effect of >> > cleaning them is dramatic. >> > >> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but >> > surely by me and it >> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast >> > spray on what >> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start >> > has it purring at >> > 650 rpm. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail >> > in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still >> > view! >> > Jan/06 >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> > >> > Seahag wrote: >> > >> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all >> >>the >> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to >> >>start >> >>it. I got the same laggy start. >> >> >> >>Seahag >> >> >> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already >> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up >> >>>she >> >>>starts normally. >> >>> >> >>>Seahag >> >>> >> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting >> >>>>for a >> >>>>few seconds. >> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the >> >>>>starter. >> >>>>If it fires >> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is >> >>>>the >> >>>>likely culprit. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> >>>>>lately. >> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in >> >>>>>the >> >>>>>last >> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem >> >>>>>with >> >>>>>his >> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> >>>>>Thoughts? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Seahag >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com >> >>> >> >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca... > When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray > everything in > and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it > sit, then hit > it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove > the throttle > body. > > When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave > everything in > place. > > Mike > > Lon wrote: >> >> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body >> to get >> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my >> full membership >> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has >> been an item on >> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 >> if it matters. >> >> Mike Romain proclaimed: >> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle >> > body and the CPS >> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a >> > lot faster. >> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can >> > be affected by >> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but >> > the effect of >> > cleaning them is dramatic. >> > >> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but >> > surely by me and it >> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast >> > spray on what >> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start >> > has it purring at >> > 650 rpm. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail >> > in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still >> > view! >> > Jan/06 >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> > >> > Seahag wrote: >> > >> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all >> >>the >> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to >> >>start >> >>it. I got the same laggy start. >> >> >> >>Seahag >> >> >> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already >> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up >> >>>she >> >>>starts normally. >> >>> >> >>>Seahag >> >>> >> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting >> >>>>for a >> >>>>few seconds. >> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the >> >>>>starter. >> >>>>If it fires >> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is >> >>>>the >> >>>>likely culprit. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> >>>>>lately. >> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in >> >>>>>the >> >>>>>last >> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem >> >>>>>with >> >>>>>his >> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> >>>>>Thoughts? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Seahag >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com >> >>> >> >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
And I just polished my nails!
Seahag "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca... > When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray > everything in > and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it > sit, then hit > it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove > the throttle > body. > > When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave > everything in > place. > > Mike > > Lon wrote: >> >> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body >> to get >> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my >> full membership >> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has >> been an item on >> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 >> if it matters. >> >> Mike Romain proclaimed: >> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle >> > body and the CPS >> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a >> > lot faster. >> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can >> > be affected by >> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but >> > the effect of >> > cleaning them is dramatic. >> > >> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but >> > surely by me and it >> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast >> > spray on what >> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start >> > has it purring at >> > 650 rpm. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail >> > in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still >> > view! >> > Jan/06 >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> > >> > Seahag wrote: >> > >> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all >> >>the >> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to >> >>start >> >>it. I got the same laggy start. >> >> >> >>Seahag >> >> >> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already >> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up >> >>>she >> >>>starts normally. >> >>> >> >>>Seahag >> >>> >> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting >> >>>>for a >> >>>>few seconds. >> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the >> >>>>starter. >> >>>>If it fires >> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is >> >>>>the >> >>>>likely culprit. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> >>>>>lately. >> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in >> >>>>>the >> >>>>>last >> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem >> >>>>>with >> >>>>>his >> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> >>>>>Thoughts? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>Seahag >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com >> >>> >> >>> |
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence. Seahag "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs: > http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > Seahag wrote: >> >> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> lately. >> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the >> last >> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with >> his >> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> Thoughts? >> >> Seahag |
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence. Seahag "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs: > http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > Seahag wrote: >> >> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> lately. >> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the >> last >> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with >> his >> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> Thoughts? >> >> Seahag |
Re: Hard to start...
Thanks for the link, Bill. It's made up my mind for me to
stick with the dealer for the maintenence. Seahag "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote: > Have over thirty thousand on your spark plugs: > http://www.----------.com/lubeSchedule.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > Seahag wrote: >> >> Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >> lately. >> I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the >> last >> 3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with >> his >> '97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >> Thoughts? >> >> Seahag |
Re: Hard to start...
Send Pappy out to do the manual labor while you supervise.
You already have him bewitched don't you? "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message news:449419f7$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net... > And I just polished my nails! > > Seahag > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44941708.5659CC49@sympatico.ca... >> When I do a major tune up, I pull off the tube and spray everything in >> and out with throttle body cleaner. I spray once, let it sit, then hit >> it the second time. So far I haven't 'needed' to remove the throttle >> body. >> >> When I clean all the electronics' connections, I leave everything in >> place. >> >> Mike >> >> Lon wrote: >>> >>> Do ya have to pull the air cleaner and the throttle body to get >>> everything clean? I've become no longer able to keep my full membership >>> in the Procrastination Protection Society, and this has been an item on >>> my preventative list for a bit too long. Is a 95 ZJ 4.0 if it matters. >>> >>> Mike Romain proclaimed: >>> > I find when I clean the connections on the throttle body and the CPS >>> > connections with spray contact cleaner, my 4.0 starts a lot faster. >>> > These are all low power computer signal plugs that can be affected by >>> > the slightest corrosion. They always look clean, but the effect of >>> > cleaning them is dramatic. >>> > >>> > My 'new' 87 is now getting checked over slowly but surely by me and it >>> > was revving at 2300 when started most times. A fast spray on what >>> > looked like a clean TPS connection and the next start has it purring >>> > at >>> > 650 rpm. >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> > >>> > Seahag wrote: >>> > >>> >>OK, I did what you said and left the key on until all the >>> >>guages came up. Turned the key off and then tried to start >>> >>it. I got the same laggy start. >>> >> >>> >>Seahag >>> >> >>> >>"Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>>Rats, I'll have to try that tomorrow. I've already >>> >>>started her today and after the first laggy start-up she >>> >>>starts normally. >>> >>> >>> >>>Seahag >>> >>> >>> >>><Matt Osborn> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Fuel pump. Try turning the key on without starting for a >>> >>>>few seconds. >>> >>>>Then turn the key off and back on to engage the starter. >>> >>>>If it fires >>> >>>>right up, then the check valve in the fuel pump is the >>> >>>>likely culprit. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>>Clemmie ('02 TJ Sport) has been a bit hard to start >>> >>>>>lately. >>> >>>>>I have to lean on the key maybe twice as long as in the >>> >>>>>last >>> >>>>>3 years. A Jeep buddy is having the same problem with >>> >>>>>his >>> >>>>>'97 and attributes it to the summer gas additives. >>> >>>>>Thoughts? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>Seahag >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>-- msosborn at msosborn dot com >>> >>> >>> >>> > > |
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