Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

In article <4071CB9C.95172FE0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> Understood. I am a registered Democrat. Unfortunately, I believe
>"Liberal" more closely depicts Kerry.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>> I agree that the modern democratic party can be pretty bleeding heart, but
>I
>> am a liberal in the classic meaning of the word... I wish the terms
>> "liberal" and "democrat" had not gotten so wrapped up together.
>

If you ask me, most anyone that is crazy enough to run for President has to
posess certain qualities of personality. The mud slinging is just part of the
process...these guys have to say anything opposite their opponent's point of
view. But there are more similarities than differences between the two major
candidates IMHO, in this or just about any election year. The differences are
in the details, and the details in an election year are all that gets
broadcast. I will say that I don't like the way direction the Republican party
has taken under the Bushes...I liked it better under Reagan. And I am not
registered with any political party...and I never vote a straight party ticket.

Wayy of topic now...here, I'll get back on it....I don't own a firearm of any
kind. I have considered purchasing and training since my children were born,
but haven't decided yet if, in my case, the accident risk trumps the need for
personal defense. but I do and have always believed what Bill posted...when
guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow

Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

In article <swmcc.25609$y7.907593@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Nathan W.
Collier" <Spam@Blocker.com> writes:

>be fair....i hope to one day contribute as much useful information to this
>newsgroup as bill

He's running about a 1 to 5 useful to non ratio....if he'd stick to links, it'd
be closer to 1:1...

:-)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow

Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

In article <4071CB9C.95172FE0@cox.net>, L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) ------
III <----------@cox.net> writes:

> Understood. I am a registered Democrat. Unfortunately, I believe
>"Liberal" more closely depicts Kerry.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Sleestak wrote:
>>
>> I agree that the modern democratic party can be pretty bleeding heart, but
>I
>> am a liberal in the classic meaning of the word... I wish the terms
>> "liberal" and "democrat" had not gotten so wrapped up together.
>

If you ask me, most anyone that is crazy enough to run for President has to
posess certain qualities of personality. The mud slinging is just part of the
process...these guys have to say anything opposite their opponent's point of
view. But there are more similarities than differences between the two major
candidates IMHO, in this or just about any election year. The differences are
in the details, and the details in an election year are all that gets
broadcast. I will say that I don't like the way direction the Republican party
has taken under the Bushes...I liked it better under Reagan. And I am not
registered with any political party...and I never vote a straight party ticket.

Wayy of topic now...here, I'll get back on it....I don't own a firearm of any
kind. I have considered purchasing and training since my children were born,
but haven't decided yet if, in my case, the accident risk trumps the need for
personal defense. but I do and have always believed what Bill posted...when
guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -Edward R. Murrow

Old Crow!!
 

Old Crow, here have a short I snuck a bottle of JD outta the Harley
Bar..........
Dale P.........
98 TJ

Old Crow!!
 

Old Crow, here have a short I snuck a bottle of JD outta the Harley
Bar..........
Dale P.........
98 TJ

Old Crow!!
 

Old Crow, here have a short I snuck a bottle of JD outta the Harley
Bar..........
Dale P.........
98 TJ

Old Crow!!
 

Old Crow, here have a short I snuck a bottle of JD outta the Harley
Bar..........
Dale P.........
98 TJ

Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

> Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
> guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
> AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
> between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
> the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
> response is "collector".
>


BS detector activated...this is NOT possible. Read this link for the
federal law lowdown:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...st/nfa_faq.txt

Note the impossible hoops you have to jump through, such as : "It is
also not
possible for anyone, except government entities, to register an
existing NFA weapon that is not registered, except within 24 hours
after one is made by a class 2 NFA manufacturer."
NFA weapons, or National Firearms Act weapons, are also known as Class
2 or semi-incorrectly as Class 3. These include all full-auto and
burst mode weapons.
The fact that these weapons are available at all (albeit by a loophole
that makes it impossible in practice to own one without buying off the
permit agencies) is used by anti-gun people to make a nonsensical
argument. If you ever did arrive at legally owning one, your name
would be smeared across so many fed databases that you couldn't ever
use it for crime anyway.
Also, if you get out and use a silencer (like in the military),
they're pretty useless and disappointing. I used several varieties and
none is very effective. Just get a flash suppressor and make longer,
better shots. :)

Matt

Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

> Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
> guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
> AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
> between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
> the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
> response is "collector".
>


BS detector activated...this is NOT possible. Read this link for the
federal law lowdown:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...st/nfa_faq.txt

Note the impossible hoops you have to jump through, such as : "It is
also not
possible for anyone, except government entities, to register an
existing NFA weapon that is not registered, except within 24 hours
after one is made by a class 2 NFA manufacturer."
NFA weapons, or National Firearms Act weapons, are also known as Class
2 or semi-incorrectly as Class 3. These include all full-auto and
burst mode weapons.
The fact that these weapons are available at all (albeit by a loophole
that makes it impossible in practice to own one without buying off the
permit agencies) is used by anti-gun people to make a nonsensical
argument. If you ever did arrive at legally owning one, your name
would be smeared across so many fed databases that you couldn't ever
use it for crime anyway.
Also, if you get out and use a silencer (like in the military),
they're pretty useless and disappointing. I used several varieties and
none is very effective. Just get a flash suppressor and make longer,
better shots. :)

Matt

Re: Handgun storage in a TJ?
 

> Anyone without a criminal record can buy class 3 weapons ( machine
> guns ) . The permit is $200.00 per weapon. This is for anything from a
> AK-47 .MP-5, UZI, Thompson 45 cal ,to a M60 , 50 cal , or anything in
> between. You can also buy a silencer, but that is another $200.00. On
> the application they ask your reason for buying the weapon, the correct
> response is "collector".
>


BS detector activated...this is NOT possible. Read this link for the
federal law lowdown:

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...st/nfa_faq.txt

Note the impossible hoops you have to jump through, such as : "It is
also not
possible for anyone, except government entities, to register an
existing NFA weapon that is not registered, except within 24 hours
after one is made by a class 2 NFA manufacturer."
NFA weapons, or National Firearms Act weapons, are also known as Class
2 or semi-incorrectly as Class 3. These include all full-auto and
burst mode weapons.
The fact that these weapons are available at all (albeit by a loophole
that makes it impossible in practice to own one without buying off the
permit agencies) is used by anti-gun people to make a nonsensical
argument. If you ever did arrive at legally owning one, your name
would be smeared across so many fed databases that you couldn't ever
use it for crime anyway.
Also, if you get out and use a silencer (like in the military),
they're pretty useless and disappointing. I used several varieties and
none is very effective. Just get a flash suppressor and make longer,
better shots. :)

Matt