Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

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GaryMason9385 wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they weren't
> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket setups and
> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>
> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were sixes,
> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling until
> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn something, Mr
> ------.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Ever notice trolls keep changing their names, therefore: don't have
much of a track record?
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GaryMason9385 wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they weren't
> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket setups and
> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>
> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were sixes,
> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling until
> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn something, Mr
> ------.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Bill,

The troll for got one thing, if Ford had purchased the Jeep company they all
would require the optional heated tail gate. The heated tail gate would be
required to keep your hands warm as you are pushing them off the road in the
winter.

The new Fords are not off road capable to the extent the Jeeps are hell none
of the SUVs are. Sure you can drive the so called off road SUVs through a
field or a dirt road but they can't take the heat so to speak.

We were out on the trails several weeks ago when an Explorer broke one of
its lower rear supports on the rear axle. If you look at not just Ford but
all the major SUVs which tout off road capability the rear and front ends
have much stuff hanging down below the axles which are just asking to be
broke. It is just fact, can't help if Jeep has their stuff together for
being at the top of the food chain for it's off road capability it always
has.


HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C3E0FC.2299A818@cox.net...
> Ever notice trolls keep changing their names, therefore: don't have
> much of a track record?
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=2004&safe=off
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> GaryMason9385 wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
>> weren't
>> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket
>> setups and
>> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>>
>> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
>> sixes,
>> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
>> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling
>> until
>> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
>> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
>> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
>> something, Mr
>> ------.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Bill,

The troll for got one thing, if Ford had purchased the Jeep company they all
would require the optional heated tail gate. The heated tail gate would be
required to keep your hands warm as you are pushing them off the road in the
winter.

The new Fords are not off road capable to the extent the Jeeps are hell none
of the SUVs are. Sure you can drive the so called off road SUVs through a
field or a dirt road but they can't take the heat so to speak.

We were out on the trails several weeks ago when an Explorer broke one of
its lower rear supports on the rear axle. If you look at not just Ford but
all the major SUVs which tout off road capability the rear and front ends
have much stuff hanging down below the axles which are just asking to be
broke. It is just fact, can't help if Jeep has their stuff together for
being at the top of the food chain for it's off road capability it always
has.


HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C3E0FC.2299A818@cox.net...
> Ever notice trolls keep changing their names, therefore: don't have
> much of a track record?
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=2004&safe=off
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> GaryMason9385 wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
>> weren't
>> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket
>> setups and
>> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>>
>> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
>> sixes,
>> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
>> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling
>> until
>> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
>> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
>> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
>> something, Mr
>> ------.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Bill,

The troll for got one thing, if Ford had purchased the Jeep company they all
would require the optional heated tail gate. The heated tail gate would be
required to keep your hands warm as you are pushing them off the road in the
winter.

The new Fords are not off road capable to the extent the Jeeps are hell none
of the SUVs are. Sure you can drive the so called off road SUVs through a
field or a dirt road but they can't take the heat so to speak.

We were out on the trails several weeks ago when an Explorer broke one of
its lower rear supports on the rear axle. If you look at not just Ford but
all the major SUVs which tout off road capability the rear and front ends
have much stuff hanging down below the axles which are just asking to be
broke. It is just fact, can't help if Jeep has their stuff together for
being at the top of the food chain for it's off road capability it always
has.


HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41C3E0FC.2299A818@cox.net...
> Ever notice trolls keep changing their names, therefore: don't have
> much of a track record?
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...=2004&safe=off
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> GaryMason9385 wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
>> weren't
>> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket
>> setups and
>> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>>
>> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
>> sixes,
>> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
>> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling
>> until
>> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
>> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
>> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
>> something, Mr
>> ------.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Point is...to judge an automaker based on what was developed 60+ years ago
is rather asinine. He was bitching about Henry Ford's Model T drivetrains,
for pete's sake.

"GaryMason9385" <garymason9385@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041218014604.07572.00002462@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
> From: L.W >>
> << Troll,
> How many V8s did Chrysler and Chevy have during Ford's flathead
> era?
> You really are stupid when it comes to engines and transmissions! <<
> Subject: Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
>
> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
weren't
> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket setups
and
> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>
> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
sixes,
> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling until
> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
something, Mr
> ------.
>
>

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Point is...to judge an automaker based on what was developed 60+ years ago
is rather asinine. He was bitching about Henry Ford's Model T drivetrains,
for pete's sake.

"GaryMason9385" <garymason9385@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041218014604.07572.00002462@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
> From: L.W >>
> << Troll,
> How many V8s did Chrysler and Chevy have during Ford's flathead
> era?
> You really are stupid when it comes to engines and transmissions! <<
> Subject: Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
>
> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
weren't
> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket setups
and
> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>
> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
sixes,
> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling until
> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
something, Mr
> ------.
>
>

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

Point is...to judge an automaker based on what was developed 60+ years ago
is rather asinine. He was bitching about Henry Ford's Model T drivetrains,
for pete's sake.

"GaryMason9385" <garymason9385@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041218014604.07572.00002462@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
> From: L.W >>
> << Troll,
> How many V8s did Chrysler and Chevy have during Ford's flathead
> era?
> You really are stupid when it comes to engines and transmissions! <<
> Subject: Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
>
> Doesn't sound stupid to me. He said they were stupid, not that they
weren't
> used. Three Deuces was available both in production and aftermarket setups
and
> it never gave very uniform fuel/air mixtures.
>
> Chrysler built straight eights, not V8s, in the thirties. Chevys were
sixes,
> but Pontiac, Buick, Olds, the "better" GM marques had straight eights and
> Cadillac had V-8, V-12 and V-16 engines. Chevrolet had splash oiling until
> 1953. Only pressure from independents and imports made Detroit get rid of
> sidevalve and splash oiled engines. Your antagonist is apparently more
> knowledgeable than you are, perhaps you should be quiet and learn
something, Mr
> ------.
>
>

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

> The new Fords are not off road capable to the extent the Jeeps are hell
none
> of the SUVs are. Sure you can drive the so called off road SUVs through a
> field or a dirt road but they can't take the heat so to speak.

Irrelevant, since most of the new Jeeps aren't off-road capable to the
extent the Wrangler or XJ is. At least Ford had the common sense to keep
solid front axles on its 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, unlike GM.

Re: Be Grateful for DCX. At Least They Aren't FORD!
 

> The new Fords are not off road capable to the extent the Jeeps are hell
none
> of the SUVs are. Sure you can drive the so called off road SUVs through a
> field or a dirt road but they can't take the heat so to speak.

Irrelevant, since most of the new Jeeps aren't off-road capable to the
extent the Wrangler or XJ is. At least Ford had the common sense to keep
solid front axles on its 3/4 and 1 ton trucks, unlike GM.