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tim.stapleton@gmail.com 12-29-2005 10:49 PM

Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Please help!

Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)

He needs to get back to work in 2 days...

I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
resetting it.

Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
off.

Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
problem.

Thanks,

Tim


Carl 12-30-2005 04:30 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Is the transmission still full of fluid? Is the transfer case engaged?

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135914562.799891.192630@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>




Carl 12-30-2005 04:30 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Is the transmission still full of fluid? Is the transfer case engaged?

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135914562.799891.192630@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>




Carl 12-30-2005 04:30 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Is the transmission still full of fluid? Is the transfer case engaged?

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135914562.799891.192630@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>




tim.stapleton@gmail.com 12-30-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Hello again,

The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
fluid?
Thanks again!
BTW -What is the transfer case?

Tim


tim.stapleton@gmail.com 12-30-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Hello again,

The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
fluid?
Thanks again!
BTW -What is the transfer case?

Tim


tim.stapleton@gmail.com 12-30-2005 11:54 AM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Hello again,

The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
fluid?
Thanks again!
BTW -What is the transfer case?

Tim


Mike Romain 12-30-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
You will burn out the transmission in less than a couple miles likely if
you drive it low and slipping. You can blow it if you put too much in
too.....

The dipstick will say on it how to check it. Likely hot running and in
neutral or park, but I can't read it from here....

The transfer case is the 2 and 4 wheel drive transmission.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim


Mike Romain 12-30-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
You will burn out the transmission in less than a couple miles likely if
you drive it low and slipping. You can blow it if you put too much in
too.....

The dipstick will say on it how to check it. Likely hot running and in
neutral or park, but I can't read it from here....

The transfer case is the 2 and 4 wheel drive transmission.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim


Mike Romain 12-30-2005 12:04 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
You will burn out the transmission in less than a couple miles likely if
you drive it low and slipping. You can blow it if you put too much in
too.....

The dipstick will say on it how to check it. Likely hot running and in
neutral or park, but I can't read it from here....

The transfer case is the 2 and 4 wheel drive transmission.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim


Earle Horton 12-30-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Since there is no way to know how much fluid ran out, there is no way to
know how much you need to replace. I could guess and say "buy three
liters", but that would be just a guess. It's an educated guess. ;^)

The transfer case is a mechanical gear box, located immediately to the rear
of the transmission, that controls four wheel drive. Fluid could have run
out of it too. You have to crawl under the vehicle to check it. Depending
on how far you had this vehicle rolled over, the axles could have lost fluid
too. You should check the engine oil too. "All" fluid levels should be
checked, before the vehicle is driven any distance.

Earle

<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




Earle Horton 12-30-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Since there is no way to know how much fluid ran out, there is no way to
know how much you need to replace. I could guess and say "buy three
liters", but that would be just a guess. It's an educated guess. ;^)

The transfer case is a mechanical gear box, located immediately to the rear
of the transmission, that controls four wheel drive. Fluid could have run
out of it too. You have to crawl under the vehicle to check it. Depending
on how far you had this vehicle rolled over, the axles could have lost fluid
too. You should check the engine oil too. "All" fluid levels should be
checked, before the vehicle is driven any distance.

Earle

<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




Earle Horton 12-30-2005 12:39 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Since there is no way to know how much fluid ran out, there is no way to
know how much you need to replace. I could guess and say "buy three
liters", but that would be just a guess. It's an educated guess. ;^)

The transfer case is a mechanical gear box, located immediately to the rear
of the transmission, that controls four wheel drive. Fluid could have run
out of it too. You have to crawl under the vehicle to check it. Depending
on how far you had this vehicle rolled over, the axles could have lost fluid
too. You should check the engine oil too. "All" fluid levels should be
checked, before the vehicle is driven any distance.

Earle

<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




Carl 12-30-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Most gas stations and other 24 hour stores stock transmission fluid. Do NOT
drive the Jeep while it is low on transmission fluid. Buy a few liters
(3-5), and slowly add fluid untill the level is full. Drive the Jeep for a
bit (maybe 1/2-1mile) and check it again.

HTH

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




Carl 12-30-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Most gas stations and other 24 hour stores stock transmission fluid. Do NOT
drive the Jeep while it is low on transmission fluid. Buy a few liters
(3-5), and slowly add fluid untill the level is full. Drive the Jeep for a
bit (maybe 1/2-1mile) and check it again.

HTH

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




Carl 12-30-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
Most gas stations and other 24 hour stores stock transmission fluid. Do NOT
drive the Jeep while it is low on transmission fluid. Buy a few liters
(3-5), and slowly add fluid untill the level is full. Drive the Jeep for a
bit (maybe 1/2-1mile) and check it again.

HTH

Carl


<tim.stapleton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135961662.218975.222740@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello again,
>
> The car was still at an angle in the ditch, and the transmission fluid
> level seemed completely empty. When we towed it back onto level ground,
> and put a couple of litres in it - Hooray! The car moved. Thanks! But I
> can't get any more fluid as everything is closed, and the dipstick
> still doesn't show any level, so it must be fairly empty. How much
> fluid should I need to put in, it has the 4 litre petrol engine, and
> given that it drives, though sometimes doesn't engage the gears as well
> as before, what are the risks of driving it not full of transmission
> fluid?
> Thanks again!
> BTW -What is the transfer case?
>
> Tim
>




philthy 12-31-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
put in the spilled trans fluid

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:

> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim



philthy 12-31-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
put in the spilled trans fluid

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:

> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim



philthy 12-31-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Grand Cherokee rollover transmission failure
 
put in the spilled trans fluid

tim.stapleton@gmail.com wrote:

> Please help!
>
> Just rolled over my brother's 2003 Grand Cherokee in the snow. Half
> over that is. Managed to get it back on its feet, but the wheels no
> longer turn, in any gear (it's an automatic of course)
>
> He needs to get back to work in 2 days...
>
> I wondered if it could be a rollover sensor, and if there was a way of
> resetting it.
>
> Not much other damage, apart from a wing mirror, and no airbags went
> off.
>
> Please make my year and tell me there's an easy solution to the
> problem.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim




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