Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Had to drive about 1.5 hours to pick it up, but I got it. It is
supposed to be a freshly rebuilt motor that some IDIOT left out in the
rain, so the valves are rusted tight in the heads, but the intake was
removed so that I could see that from the pushrods down it looked
good. Actually the rockers looked good too. I also got the 4bbl
intake for it. I haven't looked at it closely yet but I'm sure I'll
be able to get some goodies out of this. Maybe I could have it bored
out so that it's effectively a 401... I need to look at bore/stroke
stuff for a 360 vs 401... I wonder if I could use the heads off of my
304 on it. Hmm... The heads are really the only thing messed up on
the 360 from being left out in the rain... And since it's supposed to
be freshly rebuilt the cam and crank and rods and all that good stuff
should be in better shape than my 304. I could have it bored out to a
401 and slap my heads on it and...and..and.... Or...not? Oh well,
it's something to play with. I just need to figure out how to get it
out of the bed of my truck and onto my workbench or at least into my
garage.


--
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http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
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Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down? If they were
and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
were not tightened down.

Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.

You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.

I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.


Mr. Bill
at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down? If they were
and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
were not tightened down.

Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.

You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.

I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.


Mr. Bill
at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down? If they were
and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
were not tightened down.

Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.

You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.

I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.


Mr. Bill
at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
the following:

>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?

Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
haven't looked closely at it yet.

> If they were
>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>were not tightened down.
>
>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>
>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>
>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.

Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
all of the parts are supposed to be new.

>
>
>Mr. Bill
>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>
>
>
>
>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
the following:

>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?

Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
haven't looked closely at it yet.

> If they were
>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>were not tightened down.
>
>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>
>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>
>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.

Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
all of the parts are supposed to be new.

>
>
>Mr. Bill
>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>
>
>
>
>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
the following:

>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?

Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
haven't looked closely at it yet.

> If they were
>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>were not tightened down.
>
>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>
>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>
>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.

Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
all of the parts are supposed to be new.

>
>
>Mr. Bill
>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>
>
>
>
>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Update:
Wow, that was one trashed motor. What a waste, someone letting it sit
out in the rain like that. I got the lifters out of it and pulled the
heads to look deeper. It wasn't pretty. Here's a few pictures:
First to get if off of the truck:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/1.jpg
Yes, it's true the oil had not been drained out of it and the motor
got rolled over while putting it in the truck. *groan* What a mess.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/2.jpg
Just put my winch to good use to get the engine pulled all the way out
to the tailgate. Now this next stunt is one of the kinds of things
that if you do enough, you'll get a reputation for being an idiot.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/3.jpg
Can you guess what my idea was? :-D
(I'm already a confirmed idiot so flame away.)
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
*cough* *cough*
OK, so it didn't quite slide down the ramp quite as smoothly as I'd
have liked it to, but I got it off of the truck. *ahem*
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
Under the valve covers looks good but look at the intake runners. The
valves are all rusted up.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/6.jpg
Junk. That's ice in the rightmost cylinder.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/7.jpg
The picture says it all.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/8.jpg
Got some stuff off of the bottom end. Also got the motor mounts, fuel
pump, lifters, lots of misc hardware. I couldn't get the crank to
turn and got too cold outside to finish messing with it. I'm not sure
if I'm going to take the time now to pull the crank and rods and
pistons and cam or not. I got parts that are worth more than what I
paid (nothing) but not worth much more than that. :-) Easy come,
easy go.
travis

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:07:02 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:

>On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
>the following:
>
>>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?
>
>Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
>haven't looked closely at it yet.
>
>> If they were
>>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>>were not tightened down.
>>
>>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>>
>>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>>
>>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.
>
>Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
>suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
>thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
>the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
>because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
>pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
>all of the parts are supposed to be new.
>
>>
>>
>>Mr. Bill
>>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Update:
Wow, that was one trashed motor. What a waste, someone letting it sit
out in the rain like that. I got the lifters out of it and pulled the
heads to look deeper. It wasn't pretty. Here's a few pictures:
First to get if off of the truck:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/1.jpg
Yes, it's true the oil had not been drained out of it and the motor
got rolled over while putting it in the truck. *groan* What a mess.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/2.jpg
Just put my winch to good use to get the engine pulled all the way out
to the tailgate. Now this next stunt is one of the kinds of things
that if you do enough, you'll get a reputation for being an idiot.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/3.jpg
Can you guess what my idea was? :-D
(I'm already a confirmed idiot so flame away.)
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
*cough* *cough*
OK, so it didn't quite slide down the ramp quite as smoothly as I'd
have liked it to, but I got it off of the truck. *ahem*
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
Under the valve covers looks good but look at the intake runners. The
valves are all rusted up.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/6.jpg
Junk. That's ice in the rightmost cylinder.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/7.jpg
The picture says it all.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/8.jpg
Got some stuff off of the bottom end. Also got the motor mounts, fuel
pump, lifters, lots of misc hardware. I couldn't get the crank to
turn and got too cold outside to finish messing with it. I'm not sure
if I'm going to take the time now to pull the crank and rods and
pistons and cam or not. I got parts that are worth more than what I
paid (nothing) but not worth much more than that. :-) Easy come,
easy go.
travis

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:07:02 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:

>On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
>the following:
>
>>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?
>
>Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
>haven't looked closely at it yet.
>
>> If they were
>>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>>were not tightened down.
>>
>>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>>
>>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>>
>>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.
>
>Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
>suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
>thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
>the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
>because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
>pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
>all of the parts are supposed to be new.
>
>>
>>
>>Mr. Bill
>>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Re: Got a 360 for FREE today. :-)
 

Update:
Wow, that was one trashed motor. What a waste, someone letting it sit
out in the rain like that. I got the lifters out of it and pulled the
heads to look deeper. It wasn't pretty. Here's a few pictures:
First to get if off of the truck:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/1.jpg
Yes, it's true the oil had not been drained out of it and the motor
got rolled over while putting it in the truck. *groan* What a mess.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/2.jpg
Just put my winch to good use to get the engine pulled all the way out
to the tailgate. Now this next stunt is one of the kinds of things
that if you do enough, you'll get a reputation for being an idiot.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/3.jpg
Can you guess what my idea was? :-D
(I'm already a confirmed idiot so flame away.)
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
*cough* *cough*
OK, so it didn't quite slide down the ramp quite as smoothly as I'd
have liked it to, but I got it off of the truck. *ahem*
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/4.jpg
Under the valve covers looks good but look at the intake runners. The
valves are all rusted up.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/6.jpg
Junk. That's ice in the rightmost cylinder.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/7.jpg
The picture says it all.
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep/360/8.jpg
Got some stuff off of the bottom end. Also got the motor mounts, fuel
pump, lifters, lots of misc hardware. I couldn't get the crank to
turn and got too cold outside to finish messing with it. I'm not sure
if I'm going to take the time now to pull the crank and rods and
pistons and cam or not. I got parts that are worth more than what I
paid (nothing) but not worth much more than that. :-) Easy come,
easy go.
travis

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 19:07:02 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:

>On 06 Dec 2003 23:49:18 GMT, autokawkr@aol.com (AUTOKAWKR) shared
>the following:
>
>>Is there a cam in the motor and were the rockers tightened down?
>
>Yes there's a cam and I think the rockers were tightened down. I
>haven't looked closely at it yet.
>
>> If they were
>>and the valves are rusted shut then the rest of the motor is probably rusted
>>also. Not all t e valves were closed at the same time unless the rocker arms
>>were not tightened down.
>>
>>Yes your 304 heads will work on it. But your 304 heads could be of a smaller
>>port casting and end up being restrictive to the air flow into the motor.
>>
>>You can't bore a 360 to 401 max is .090 and that makes it a 377. You could
>>stroke it but then you have to look at custom crank and custom rods, bottom of
>>cylinders have to be notched to handle extra stroke. All big buck items.
>>
>>I'd pull the motor apart in the back of the truck first and see what damage the
>>rain did first. It may not be worth pulling into the garage.
>
>Would the cam (assuming it's a stock grind cam) work ok in my 304? I
>suspect I may have a lifter or two going bad in my 304 and was
>thinking of swapping in the cam and lifters from the 360. What about
>the crank? I can't imagine it being bad. I'll pull it to save just
>because I think it's gotta be good. And the oil pump. And the
>pushrods and rockers and valve-springs and...whatever looks good since
>all of the parts are supposed to be new.
>
>>
>>
>>Mr. Bill
>>at a 4 way stop.....the vehicle with the largest wheels has the right of way
>>My Jeep is not an SUV....your SUV is not a Jeep
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!