Gear and Locker time
 

I have a 2002 TJ with 5.5" of lift and Im ready to go to 35's. Only
problem is that I have dana 30 and dana 35 with factory 3:07's. Its
hard on 33's, and just would not cut it with 35's.

So, my big question is.... Can/should I attempt this ring and pinion
install on my own? I have done all other mods to my Jeep on my own
with out any real problems. Are there any special tools that are
needed?

It will save me about $600 in labor cost. But, $600 in savings may
cost me more if I fubar the install and explode an axle.

Any suggestions would be great. Also, who makes the best 4:56 gears?

Thanks,
David

Re: Gear and Locker time
 

> Good Luck. Just remember that the quality is remembered long after the
> price is forgotten.
> TJim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW

I love that expression. Not all dealership techs are thieves.


Jerry

Re: Gear and Locker time
 

I recently bought a Dana 44 rear axle with the stock True Track limited slip
te replace my stock Dana 35. I suppose this axle is strong enough to turn 35
inch tires ? But what about the stock Dana 30 front... will that be strong
enough to turn them 35's without upgrading it ?

Gears will be changed to, but not sure what to get yet... either 4.56 of
4.88. IN Belgium we don't do any rock crawling but mostly mud, so super low
gearing isn't good. I use the TJ as my daily car on the highway, so it
should be able to run using 5th gear again

Greetzz,
Kristof
http://jeepthing.be/
(just a temp site, no time yet to create a decent one)



"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ad-cncr11NwFHLOiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> Dave
> 1) If you're going with 35s and lockers, I would recommend swapping out
your
> d35c for a d44. I don't think the d35c will last long with that setup.
> 2) Unless you've done re-gear jobs and/or you have lots of free time and
you
> don't need the jeep for a while, I would recommend spending the $600 to
get
> it done by someone who does this for a living. It can be done, but it's a
> lot of work and requires a lot of patience and a number of specialized
> tools, according to my FSM.
> 3) I used Superior gears and rebuild kits (well, not actually ME, but the
> mechanic did) in my TJ and have had no troubles with the diffs. You might
> want to talk to Randy's Ring and Pinion, too. I hear he can be pretty
> helpful.
> Good Luck. Just remember that the quality is remembered long after the
> price is forgotten.
> TJim
> 98 TJ SE
> 90 SJ GW
>
> "Dave" <funkdm1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f5174e0f.0308040534.7a7700da@posting.google.c om...
> > I have a 2002 TJ with 5.5" of lift and Im ready to go to 35's. Only
> > problem is that I have dana 30 and dana 35 with factory 3:07's. Its
> > hard on 33's, and just would not cut it with 35's.
> >
> > So, my big question is.... Can/should I attempt this ring and pinion
> > install on my own? I have done all other mods to my Jeep on my own
> > with out any real problems. Are there any special tools that are
> > needed?
> >
> > It will save me about $600 in labor cost. But, $600 in savings may
> > cost me more if I fubar the install and explode an axle.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great. Also, who makes the best 4:56 gears?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
>
>

Re: Gear and Locker time
 

Kristof,
The d30 is pretty good, although not as strong as a d44. You can gear it to
4.88 but no further.
Did you say what size you motor is? If it's a 2.5L, you could probably run
33s comfortably with 4.88. If it's a 4.0L, I think you could probably run
35s with either 4.56 or 4.88, depending on how much highway driving you do.
(I'm sure there are others here who have more experience with 35s than I do)
The d44 did not come with a tru-trac as far as I know. The tru-trac is a
geared limited slip unit. To my knowledge, the d44 only came with the
trac-lock, which is a clutch-pack limited slip and requires friction
modifier additive in the gear lube.
Good Luck. I wish I had a d44 with 4.88 and a tru-trac to put into my 98
TJ!
TJim


"Kristof Hayen (O ||||||| O)" <JEEPTHING@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:X35Ya.51306$F92.5290@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> I recently bought a Dana 44 rear axle with the stock True Track limited
slip
> te replace my stock Dana 35. I suppose this axle is strong enough to turn
35
> inch tires ? But what about the stock Dana 30 front... will that be strong
> enough to turn them 35's without upgrading it ?
>
> Gears will be changed to, but not sure what to get yet... either 4.56 of
> 4.88. IN Belgium we don't do any rock crawling but mostly mud, so super
low
> gearing isn't good. I use the TJ as my daily car on the highway, so it
> should be able to run using 5th gear again
>
> Greetzz,
> Kristof
> http://jeepthing.be/
> (just a temp site, no time yet to create a decent one)
>
>
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ad-cncr11NwFHLOiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> > Dave
> > 1) If you're going with 35s and lockers, I would recommend swapping out
> your
> > d35c for a d44. I don't think the d35c will last long with that setup.
> > 2) Unless you've done re-gear jobs and/or you have lots of free time and
> you
> > don't need the jeep for a while, I would recommend spending the $600 to
> get
> > it done by someone who does this for a living. It can be done, but it's
a
> > lot of work and requires a lot of patience and a number of specialized
> > tools, according to my FSM.
> > 3) I used Superior gears and rebuild kits (well, not actually ME, but
the
> > mechanic did) in my TJ and have had no troubles with the diffs. You
might
> > want to talk to Randy's Ring and Pinion, too. I hear he can be pretty
> > helpful.
> > Good Luck. Just remember that the quality is remembered long after the
> > price is forgotten.
> > TJim
> > 98 TJ SE
> > 90 SJ GW
> >
> > "Dave" <funkdm1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:f5174e0f.0308040534.7a7700da@posting.google.c om...
> > > I have a 2002 TJ with 5.5" of lift and Im ready to go to 35's. Only
> > > problem is that I have dana 30 and dana 35 with factory 3:07's. Its
> > > hard on 33's, and just would not cut it with 35's.
> > >
> > > So, my big question is.... Can/should I attempt this ring and pinion
> > > install on my own? I have done all other mods to my Jeep on my own
> > > with out any real problems. Are there any special tools that are
> > > needed?
> > >
> > > It will save me about $600 in labor cost. But, $600 in savings may
> > > cost me more if I fubar the install and explode an axle.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be great. Also, who makes the best 4:56 gears?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Gear and Locker time
 

TJIM

It's a 4.0L !
90% of what I do is highway since I have to drive nearly an hour to go to
work, and an hour to drive back (I do about 1.000 km each week)
And you are right concerning the locker, it's a Trac Lock... my mistake.
Thanks 4 the reply

Kristof,
http://jeepthing.be/

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3B6dncHocuc3j6yiU-KYvw@comcast.com...
> Kristof,
> The d30 is pretty good, although not as strong as a d44. You can gear it
to
> 4.88 but no further.
> Did you say what size you motor is? If it's a 2.5L, you could probably
run
> 33s comfortably with 4.88. If it's a 4.0L, I think you could probably run
> 35s with either 4.56 or 4.88, depending on how much highway driving you
do.
> (I'm sure there are others here who have more experience with 35s than I
do)
> The d44 did not come with a tru-trac as far as I know. The tru-trac is a
> geared limited slip unit. To my knowledge, the d44 only came with the
> trac-lock, which is a clutch-pack limited slip and requires friction
> modifier additive in the gear lube.
> Good Luck. I wish I had a d44 with 4.88 and a tru-trac to put into my 98
> TJ!
> TJim
>
>
> "Kristof Hayen (O ||||||| O)" <JEEPTHING@pandora.be> wrote in message
> news:X35Ya.51306$F92.5290@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> > I recently bought a Dana 44 rear axle with the stock True Track limited
> slip
> > te replace my stock Dana 35. I suppose this axle is strong enough to
turn
> 35
> > inch tires ? But what about the stock Dana 30 front... will that be
strong
> > enough to turn them 35's without upgrading it ?
> >
> > Gears will be changed to, but not sure what to get yet... either 4.56 of
> > 4.88. IN Belgium we don't do any rock crawling but mostly mud, so super
> low
> > gearing isn't good. I use the TJ as my daily car on the highway, so it
> > should be able to run using 5th gear again
> >
> > Greetzz,
> > Kristof
> > http://jeepthing.be/
> > (just a temp site, no time yet to create a decent one)
> >
> >
> >
> > "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:ad-cncr11NwFHLOiU-KYuQ@comcast.com...
> > > Dave
> > > 1) If you're going with 35s and lockers, I would recommend swapping
out
> > your
> > > d35c for a d44. I don't think the d35c will last long with that
setup.
> > > 2) Unless you've done re-gear jobs and/or you have lots of free time
and
> > you
> > > don't need the jeep for a while, I would recommend spending the $600
to
> > get
> > > it done by someone who does this for a living. It can be done, but
it's
> a
> > > lot of work and requires a lot of patience and a number of specialized
> > > tools, according to my FSM.
> > > 3) I used Superior gears and rebuild kits (well, not actually ME, but
> the
> > > mechanic did) in my TJ and have had no troubles with the diffs. You
> might
> > > want to talk to Randy's Ring and Pinion, too. I hear he can be pretty
> > > helpful.
> > > Good Luck. Just remember that the quality is remembered long after
the
> > > price is forgotten.
> > > TJim
> > > 98 TJ SE
> > > 90 SJ GW
> > >
> > > "Dave" <funkdm1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:f5174e0f.0308040534.7a7700da@posting.google.c om...
> > > > I have a 2002 TJ with 5.5" of lift and Im ready to go to 35's. Only
> > > > problem is that I have dana 30 and dana 35 with factory 3:07's. Its
> > > > hard on 33's, and just would not cut it with 35's.
> > > >
> > > > So, my big question is.... Can/should I attempt this ring and pinion
> > > > install on my own? I have done all other mods to my Jeep on my own
> > > > with out any real problems. Are there any special tools that are
> > > > needed?
> > > >
> > > > It will save me about $600 in labor cost. But, $600 in savings may
> > > > cost me more if I fubar the install and explode an axle.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions would be great. Also, who makes the best 4:56 gears?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > David
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>