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Mark12211 01-01-2004 10:44 PM

Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
From USA TODAY
Has info on 7 future Jeeps

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...-16-jeep_x.htm



<<<The controversy heated up last month when news stories had Bernhard
suggesting that future Jeeps would be softer, more cuddly.

Bernhard says it was a misunderstanding. "Every Jeep in this room will be the
most capable SUV in its segment, the toughest, best off-roaders — but with
better on-road manners," he says.

Bell, who had never driven the Rubicon Trail, says no one knew what the
trail-worthy designation meant. "Rubicon worthy according to who? It was just
in the air," he says.

Now they do. After driving the trail in a Wrangler, Bell contracted with the
Nevada Automotive Test Center, which conducts off-road tests and sets standards
for the U.S. military, to certify each Jeep model for traction, ground
clearance, maneuverability and water fording. Starting last month, Jeep began
advertising that every model is "trail rated."

"Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing board will
be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the Rubicon Trail. Period,"
Bell says.

Jeep lovers like Sally Perkins, a Denver Wrangler owner who off-roads with her
fiancé, couldn't be happier. "I saw something on a Jeep Web site about softer
Jeeps, and thought, 'God, I better buy two before they turn them into Hondas,'
" Perkins says.
>>>>


HarryS 01-02-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com...
> From USA TODAY
> Has info on 7 future Jeeps
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...-16-jeep_x.htm
>
>
>
> <<<The controversy heated up last month when news stories had Bernhard
> suggesting that future Jeeps would be softer, more cuddly.
>
> Bernhard says it was a misunderstanding. "Every Jeep in this room will be

the
> most capable SUV in its segment, the toughest, best off-roaders - but with
> better on-road manners," he says.
>
> Bell, who had never driven the Rubicon Trail, says no one knew what the
> trail-worthy designation meant. "Rubicon worthy according to who? It was

just
> in the air," he says.
>
> Now they do. After driving the trail in a Wrangler, Bell contracted with

the
> Nevada Automotive Test Center, which conducts off-road tests and sets

standards
> for the U.S. military, to certify each Jeep model for traction, ground
> clearance, maneuverability and water fording. Starting last month, Jeep

began
> advertising that every model is "trail rated."
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing board

will
> be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the Rubicon Trail.

Period,"
> Bell says.
>
> Jeep lovers like Sally Perkins, a Denver Wrangler owner who off-roads with

her
> fiancé, couldn't be happier. "I saw something on a Jeep Web site about

softer
> Jeeps, and thought, 'God, I better buy two before they turn them into

Hondas,'
> " Perkins says.
> >>>>


Thanks for the post a good read.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR



HarryS 01-02-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com...
> From USA TODAY
> Has info on 7 future Jeeps
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...-16-jeep_x.htm
>
>
>
> <<<The controversy heated up last month when news stories had Bernhard
> suggesting that future Jeeps would be softer, more cuddly.
>
> Bernhard says it was a misunderstanding. "Every Jeep in this room will be

the
> most capable SUV in its segment, the toughest, best off-roaders - but with
> better on-road manners," he says.
>
> Bell, who had never driven the Rubicon Trail, says no one knew what the
> trail-worthy designation meant. "Rubicon worthy according to who? It was

just
> in the air," he says.
>
> Now they do. After driving the trail in a Wrangler, Bell contracted with

the
> Nevada Automotive Test Center, which conducts off-road tests and sets

standards
> for the U.S. military, to certify each Jeep model for traction, ground
> clearance, maneuverability and water fording. Starting last month, Jeep

began
> advertising that every model is "trail rated."
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing board

will
> be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the Rubicon Trail.

Period,"
> Bell says.
>
> Jeep lovers like Sally Perkins, a Denver Wrangler owner who off-roads with

her
> fiancé, couldn't be happier. "I saw something on a Jeep Web site about

softer
> Jeeps, and thought, 'God, I better buy two before they turn them into

Hondas,'
> " Perkins says.
> >>>>


Thanks for the post a good read.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR



HarryS 01-02-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com...
> From USA TODAY
> Has info on 7 future Jeeps
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...-16-jeep_x.htm
>
>
>
> <<<The controversy heated up last month when news stories had Bernhard
> suggesting that future Jeeps would be softer, more cuddly.
>
> Bernhard says it was a misunderstanding. "Every Jeep in this room will be

the
> most capable SUV in its segment, the toughest, best off-roaders - but with
> better on-road manners," he says.
>
> Bell, who had never driven the Rubicon Trail, says no one knew what the
> trail-worthy designation meant. "Rubicon worthy according to who? It was

just
> in the air," he says.
>
> Now they do. After driving the trail in a Wrangler, Bell contracted with

the
> Nevada Automotive Test Center, which conducts off-road tests and sets

standards
> for the U.S. military, to certify each Jeep model for traction, ground
> clearance, maneuverability and water fording. Starting last month, Jeep

began
> advertising that every model is "trail rated."
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing board

will
> be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the Rubicon Trail.

Period,"
> Bell says.
>
> Jeep lovers like Sally Perkins, a Denver Wrangler owner who off-roads with

her
> fiancé, couldn't be happier. "I saw something on a Jeep Web site about

softer
> Jeeps, and thought, 'God, I better buy two before they turn them into

Hondas,'
> " Perkins says.
> >>>>


Thanks for the post a good read.
--
HarryS
JAFGBR



Exeter 01-04-2004 11:47 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:


> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.


Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?

Exeter 01-04-2004 11:47 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:


> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.


Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?

Exeter 01-04-2004 11:47 AM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:


> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.


Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?

L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 03:49 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 08:47, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
> news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:
>
>
>> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
>> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
>> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.

>
> Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
> drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?


Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
badge, and without that badge you cannot safely traverse the
Rubicon, nor save the Federation from the Zindi.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 03:49 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 08:47, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
> news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:
>
>
>> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
>> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
>> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.

>
> Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
> drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?


Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
badge, and without that badge you cannot safely traverse the
Rubicon, nor save the Federation from the Zindi.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 03:49 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 08:47, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> mark12211@aol.com (Mark12211) wrote in
> news:20040101224424.01665.00002095@mb-m18.aol.com:
>
>
>> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the drawing
>> board will be trail rated, and I invite anyone to take them on the
>> Rubicon Trail. Period," Bell says.

>
> Interesting, I guess that includes 2 wheel drive models. Has a 2 wheel
> drive Jeep ever conquered the Rubicon?


Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
badge, and without that badge you cannot safely traverse the
Rubicon, nor save the Federation from the Zindi.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


Exeter 01-04-2004 04:57 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:


> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
> badge,


Then I present the quote once more:

"Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
drawing board will be trail rated"




Exeter 01-04-2004 04:57 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:


> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
> badge,


Then I present the quote once more:

"Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
drawing board will be trail rated"




Exeter 01-04-2004 04:57 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
"L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:


> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
> badge,


Then I present the quote once more:

"Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
drawing board will be trail rated"




DougW 01-04-2004 05:15 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Exeter did pass the time by typing:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" :
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


So trail == pavement with dirt on it

Makes sense.

--
DougW



DougW 01-04-2004 05:15 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Exeter did pass the time by typing:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" :
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


So trail == pavement with dirt on it

Makes sense.

--
DougW



DougW 01-04-2004 05:15 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Exeter did pass the time by typing:
> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" :
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


So trail == pavement with dirt on it

Makes sense.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
drawing board.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Exeter wrote:
>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
drawing board.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Exeter wrote:
>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-04-2004 05:16 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
drawing board.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Exeter wrote:
>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 13:57, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
> news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


Yeah, except that according to Jeep, *only* the 4x4 models
will get the magical badge that allows them to leap tall
buildings with a single bound.

Auto Connection:

"Jeep Adds "Trail Rated" Badge Boast

Future Jeep 4x4 models will sport a new badge that the brand hopes will
differentiate their vehicles from the current crop of soft-roaders. The
"Trail Rated" badge will be affixed to all 2004 Jeep vehicles with
four-wheel drive - Grand Cherokee, Liberty, and Wrangler. The badge
means the vehicles have passed off-road testing by the Nevada Automotive
Test Center (NATC), which evaluates vehicles for traction, ground
clearance, off-road articulation, and water fording. Jeep has more
information posted online at www.jeep.com/trailrated."

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 13:57, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
> news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


Yeah, except that according to Jeep, *only* the 4x4 models
will get the magical badge that allows them to leap tall
buildings with a single bound.

Auto Connection:

"Jeep Adds "Trail Rated" Badge Boast

Future Jeep 4x4 models will sport a new badge that the brand hopes will
differentiate their vehicles from the current crop of soft-roaders. The
"Trail Rated" badge will be affixed to all 2004 Jeep vehicles with
four-wheel drive - Grand Cherokee, Liberty, and Wrangler. The badge
means the vehicles have passed off-road testing by the Nevada Automotive
Test Center (NATC), which evaluates vehicles for traction, ground
clearance, off-road articulation, and water fording. Jeep has more
information posted online at www.jeep.com/trailrated."

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 13:57, Exeter's monkeys randomly typed:

> "L0nD0t.$t0we11" <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote in
> news:D%_Jb.740805$Tr4.2006987@attbi_s03:
>
>
>> Ahh, but a 2wd Jeep will be lacking the famous "Trail Rated"
>> badge,

>
> Then I present the quote once more:
>
> "Every Jeep we have now and will have, and every Jeep on the
> drawing board will be trail rated"


Yeah, except that according to Jeep, *only* the 4x4 models
will get the magical badge that allows them to leap tall
buildings with a single bound.

Auto Connection:

"Jeep Adds "Trail Rated" Badge Boast

Future Jeep 4x4 models will sport a new badge that the brand hopes will
differentiate their vehicles from the current crop of soft-roaders. The
"Trail Rated" badge will be affixed to all 2004 Jeep vehicles with
four-wheel drive - Grand Cherokee, Liberty, and Wrangler. The badge
means the vehicles have passed off-road testing by the Nevada Automotive
Test Center (NATC), which evaluates vehicles for traction, ground
clearance, off-road articulation, and water fording. Jeep has more
information posted online at www.jeep.com/trailrated."

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 14:16, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
> drawing board.


Ahh, but think of how "Jeep" is pronounced if Spanish...


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 14:16, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
> drawing board.


Ahh, but think of how "Jeep" is pronounced if Spanish...


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


L0nD0t.$t0we11 01-04-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Future Jeep's won't be softer-
 
Roughly 1/4/04 14:16, L.W.(ßill) ------ III's monkeys randomly typed:

> Chrysler nor it's predator, Daimler, have had a Real Jeep on the
> drawing board.


Ahh, but think of how "Jeep" is pronounced if Spanish...


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.



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