Re: fuel tank capacity
 

LOL
I always whenever possible take heed of the advice
the old farmer I used to work for gave me.

"Keep the top half full, the bottom half will never go dry"

Every winter when we're out snowmobiling in Quebec
Gas stations are far and between, riding those gas guzzelers
(My 4.0litre Rubie gets better mileage than my little 0.5litre sled)
we NEVER pass up a gas staion. Even if it's down a quarter tank

Nothing like that nervous feeling, when you're not quite sure where you
are, It's -20C out, soon to be dark and you only got a 1/8 tank left

:-)

Mike Romain wrote:

>
> I always take any 'new' to me vehicle I buy and put a full gas can on
> board 'planning' to run out of gas.
>
> I do this on a specific run so I don't have any surprises.
>
> I mark the odometer when the light come on, then I mark it a second time
> when the gauge is 'exactly' on the E line, then again when the needle
> stops moving if I can notice that.
>
> I then drive until it sputters, pull over and put gas in from the can to
> get to a gas station.
>
> This lets me know exactly how many miles I have left at the bottom parts
> of the gauge.
>
> Some vehicles have given up to 70 miles after the gauge read E, others
> like my CJ7 are 'out' of gas when it hits E.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

On Sep 18, 8:49 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Al
> >>> __
> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>
> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
> >> your 98 TJ.
>
> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> > Jeff DeWitt
>
> It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
> and strap setup.
>
> The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
> vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> >> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>
> >> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
> >>http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>
> >> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
> >> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

On Sep 18, 8:49 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Al
> >>> __
> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>
> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
> >> your 98 TJ.
>
> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> > Jeff DeWitt
>
> It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
> and strap setup.
>
> The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
> vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> >> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>
> >> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
> >>http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>
> >> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
> >> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

On Sep 18, 8:49 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Al
> >>> __
> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>
> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
> >> your 98 TJ.
>
> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> > Jeff DeWitt
>
> It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
> and strap setup.
>
> The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
> vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> >> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>
> >> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
> >>http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>
> >> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
> >> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

On Sep 18, 8:49 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Jeff DeWitt wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> Arold "Al" Green wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I bought a 98 TJ Sport 6 cylinder. The dealer window sticker was
> >>> still with the paperwork and it says it has a 15 gallon tank. Is this
> >>> accurate? I had assumed the tank would be cloer to 20 gallon.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Al
> >>> __
> >>> Arold "Al" Green
>
> >> I was just reading around and found out you have a 19 gallon tank in
> >> your 98 TJ.
>
> >> If the sticker says it is a 15 gallon tank, they put a float ball
> >> stopper in the fill tube so it shuts off at 15, but the tank is the same.
>
> > Why on Earth would they do something like that? You usually know what
> > your talking about and I'm not disputing you, it just sounds like a
> > really stupid thing to do... so if they really did do it I'm sure it was
> > to meet some goofy government regulation.
>
> > Jeff DeWitt
>
> It must be cheaper to do it that way rather than design a new skid plate
> and strap setup.
>
> The later 4.0 YJ's are the same, one tank fits all with just the filler
> vent deeper on the 'smaller' tank.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> >> You can drop the tank and remove this ball by trimming the tube back.
>
> >> Here is a link with directions about halfway down:
> >>http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=453329
>
> >> You then would need the 19 gallon sender or just realize your gauge
> >> just reads the bottom 3/4 of the tank. I have had cars like that...
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

nrs wrote:
>> Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
> same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
> have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
> true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
> providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

But then they could not charge you for an upgraded, larger tank that holds
exactly the same amount as the standard, smaller tank.

They will always find a way to get a few dollars more.

Larry

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

nrs wrote:
>> Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
> same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
> have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
> true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
> providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

But then they could not charge you for an upgraded, larger tank that holds
exactly the same amount as the standard, smaller tank.

They will always find a way to get a few dollars more.

Larry

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

nrs wrote:
>> Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
> same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
> have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
> true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
> providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

But then they could not charge you for an upgraded, larger tank that holds
exactly the same amount as the standard, smaller tank.

They will always find a way to get a few dollars more.

Larry

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

nrs wrote:
>> Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
> same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
> have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
> true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
> providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!

But then they could not charge you for an upgraded, larger tank that holds
exactly the same amount as the standard, smaller tank.

They will always find a way to get a few dollars more.

Larry

Re: fuel tank capacity
 

On Sep 18, 11:41 am, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> >> Also, production volume increases since all vehicles get the (mostly)
> > same tank and setup costs decrease because the production line doesn´t
> > have to switch from one tank size to another. Sounds good and it's
> > true, but it seems they could have saved a little bit more by just
> > providing 20 gallon tanks in all vehicles!
>
> But then they could not charge you for an upgraded, larger tank that holds
> exactly the same amount as the standard, smaller tank.
>
> They will always find a way to get a few dollars more.
>
> Larry

How true, I forgot the other side of the matter, the revenue!