Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Gasbuddy didn't have such a chart, but I found one at
http://www.oilnergy.com/1combo.htm#daily. Crude is green, unleaded is pink.
I wouldn't say they track "perfectly." If the price of gas was a pure
function of oil prices, right now wholesale gasoline should be about 1.79
based on the price differential between gas and crude when crude was
$77/bbl. But it's about 1.48 according to the chart.

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1FBZg.4621$vK.2942@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> The two are directly related, go to something like Gasbuddy.com and you
> can pull up a chart showing gas prices and oil prices superimposed on each
> other, and they track almost perfectly.
>
> That is virtually ALWAYS the case, a big exception was last year after
> Katrina when gasoline production and distribution was disrupted, gas
> prices went up much more than oil did but as the damage was repaired
> prices came back into line.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I never mentioned crude oil prices. I was talking about pump prices.
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:QHzZg.924$337.169@southeast.rr.com...
>>
>>>Sure, worldwide oil prices dropped just because the US is having an
>>>election... GWB pulled that lever in the Oval Office and at his command
>>>all the oil suppling countries... OPEC, Iran, Venezuela, Mexico, Russia,
>>>ect, all dropped their oil prices to help the Republican Party in the
>>>fall election.
>>>
>>>Sorry, but I find that more than just a bit difficult to believe.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's not the sole reason for the price drop but you're naive if you
>>>>think the election has nothing to do with it. "Of course is
>>>>doesn't...just ask the industry spokespeople."
>>>>
>>>>If within 45 days after the election, average fuel prices don't increase
>>>>by 10%, I'll eat my crow.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:45356FF3.C4F80883@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You don't actually believe that do you???????
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as gas goes, the oil companies know a shift in Congress will
>>>>>>not be
>>>>>>good for them, so they are holding their retail prices down until
>>>>>>after the
>>>>>>election.
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Gasbuddy didn't have such a chart, but I found one at
http://www.oilnergy.com/1combo.htm#daily. Crude is green, unleaded is pink.
I wouldn't say they track "perfectly." If the price of gas was a pure
function of oil prices, right now wholesale gasoline should be about 1.79
based on the price differential between gas and crude when crude was
$77/bbl. But it's about 1.48 according to the chart.

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1FBZg.4621$vK.2942@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> The two are directly related, go to something like Gasbuddy.com and you
> can pull up a chart showing gas prices and oil prices superimposed on each
> other, and they track almost perfectly.
>
> That is virtually ALWAYS the case, a big exception was last year after
> Katrina when gasoline production and distribution was disrupted, gas
> prices went up much more than oil did but as the damage was repaired
> prices came back into line.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I never mentioned crude oil prices. I was talking about pump prices.
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:QHzZg.924$337.169@southeast.rr.com...
>>
>>>Sure, worldwide oil prices dropped just because the US is having an
>>>election... GWB pulled that lever in the Oval Office and at his command
>>>all the oil suppling countries... OPEC, Iran, Venezuela, Mexico, Russia,
>>>ect, all dropped their oil prices to help the Republican Party in the
>>>fall election.
>>>
>>>Sorry, but I find that more than just a bit difficult to believe.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's not the sole reason for the price drop but you're naive if you
>>>>think the election has nothing to do with it. "Of course is
>>>>doesn't...just ask the industry spokespeople."
>>>>
>>>>If within 45 days after the election, average fuel prices don't increase
>>>>by 10%, I'll eat my crow.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:45356FF3.C4F80883@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You don't actually believe that do you???????
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as gas goes, the oil companies know a shift in Congress will
>>>>>>not be
>>>>>>good for them, so they are holding their retail prices down until
>>>>>>after the
>>>>>>election.
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Gasbuddy didn't have such a chart, but I found one at
http://www.oilnergy.com/1combo.htm#daily. Crude is green, unleaded is pink.
I wouldn't say they track "perfectly." If the price of gas was a pure
function of oil prices, right now wholesale gasoline should be about 1.79
based on the price differential between gas and crude when crude was
$77/bbl. But it's about 1.48 according to the chart.

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1FBZg.4621$vK.2942@tornado.southeast.rr.com.. .
> The two are directly related, go to something like Gasbuddy.com and you
> can pull up a chart showing gas prices and oil prices superimposed on each
> other, and they track almost perfectly.
>
> That is virtually ALWAYS the case, a big exception was last year after
> Katrina when gasoline production and distribution was disrupted, gas
> prices went up much more than oil did but as the damage was repaired
> prices came back into line.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> I never mentioned crude oil prices. I was talking about pump prices.
>>
>> "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:QHzZg.924$337.169@southeast.rr.com...
>>
>>>Sure, worldwide oil prices dropped just because the US is having an
>>>election... GWB pulled that lever in the Oval Office and at his command
>>>all the oil suppling countries... OPEC, Iran, Venezuela, Mexico, Russia,
>>>ect, all dropped their oil prices to help the Republican Party in the
>>>fall election.
>>>
>>>Sorry, but I find that more than just a bit difficult to believe.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's not the sole reason for the price drop but you're naive if you
>>>>think the election has nothing to do with it. "Of course is
>>>>doesn't...just ask the industry spokespeople."
>>>>
>>>>If within 45 days after the election, average fuel prices don't increase
>>>>by 10%, I'll eat my crow.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:45356FF3.C4F80883@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You don't actually believe that do you???????
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>As far as gas goes, the oil companies know a shift in Congress will
>>>>>>not be
>>>>>>good for them, so they are holding their retail prices down until
>>>>>>after the
>>>>>>election.
>>>>
>>>>
>>

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4534F52C.15CD8D69@sympatico.ca...
> > We had to do a 3000 mile trip east this summer across Canada in the CJ7
> > and were paying up to $1.40 a 'liter' for fuel!
> >
> > The average for the 91 octane my engine likes was $1.30- $1.35 a liter
> > for the trip.
> >
> > I think your US gallons are something like 3.785 liters so that's $5.29
> > a US gallon.
> >
> > I have a 20 gallon tank or supposedly 76 liters and was paying over
> > $100.00 a tank full and thanks to some sleazy rip off pumps actually got
> > 86 liters in at one place in New Brunswick.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Wow, that sucks!
> I have a friend in NS, she tells me she is paying .90 a liter these days.

Those prices there are government controlled and regular was $1.25 a
liter when we were there. That 'really' hurt and stopped us from doing
a bunch of drives we wanted to do.

Mike

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4534F52C.15CD8D69@sympatico.ca...
> > We had to do a 3000 mile trip east this summer across Canada in the CJ7
> > and were paying up to $1.40 a 'liter' for fuel!
> >
> > The average for the 91 octane my engine likes was $1.30- $1.35 a liter
> > for the trip.
> >
> > I think your US gallons are something like 3.785 liters so that's $5.29
> > a US gallon.
> >
> > I have a 20 gallon tank or supposedly 76 liters and was paying over
> > $100.00 a tank full and thanks to some sleazy rip off pumps actually got
> > 86 liters in at one place in New Brunswick.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Wow, that sucks!
> I have a friend in NS, she tells me she is paying .90 a liter these days.

Those prices there are government controlled and regular was $1.25 a
liter when we were there. That 'really' hurt and stopped us from doing
a bunch of drives we wanted to do.

Mike

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

Kate wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4534F52C.15CD8D69@sympatico.ca...
> > We had to do a 3000 mile trip east this summer across Canada in the CJ7
> > and were paying up to $1.40 a 'liter' for fuel!
> >
> > The average for the 91 octane my engine likes was $1.30- $1.35 a liter
> > for the trip.
> >
> > I think your US gallons are something like 3.785 liters so that's $5.29
> > a US gallon.
> >
> > I have a 20 gallon tank or supposedly 76 liters and was paying over
> > $100.00 a tank full and thanks to some sleazy rip off pumps actually got
> > 86 liters in at one place in New Brunswick.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Wow, that sucks!
> I have a friend in NS, she tells me she is paying .90 a liter these days.

Those prices there are government controlled and regular was $1.25 a
liter when we were there. That 'really' hurt and stopped us from doing
a bunch of drives we wanted to do.

Mike

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

"Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote

>>
>>
> We have been paying $2.02 in southern MD for a couple of weeks now. Most
> of the summer the RAM has been sitting in the yard while the TJ has been
> getting some exercise along with the motorcycles. I have been averaging
> 20.2 MPG on the TJ (4.0L) which compared to the RAM is out standing but
> any thing compared to a RAM is outstanding.
>
> Coasty

DANG! How the hell do you get 20 mpg in your TJ?
Mine gets 17 on a good day with a tail wind.

Kate

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

"Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote

>>
>>
> We have been paying $2.02 in southern MD for a couple of weeks now. Most
> of the summer the RAM has been sitting in the yard while the TJ has been
> getting some exercise along with the motorcycles. I have been averaging
> 20.2 MPG on the TJ (4.0L) which compared to the RAM is out standing but
> any thing compared to a RAM is outstanding.
>
> Coasty

DANG! How the hell do you get 20 mpg in your TJ?
Mine gets 17 on a good day with a tail wind.

Kate

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

"Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote

>>
>>
> We have been paying $2.02 in southern MD for a couple of weeks now. Most
> of the summer the RAM has been sitting in the yard while the TJ has been
> getting some exercise along with the motorcycles. I have been averaging
> 20.2 MPG on the TJ (4.0L) which compared to the RAM is out standing but
> any thing compared to a RAM is outstanding.
>
> Coasty

DANG! How the hell do you get 20 mpg in your TJ?
Mine gets 17 on a good day with a tail wind.

Kate

Re: Fuel prices - What's coming out of YOUR wallet?
 

He drives slower than you do :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter.selby.ws> wrote in message
news:J08_g.1684$Fd7.1171@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Coasty" <no spam uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote
>
> >>
> >>
> > We have been paying $2.02 in southern MD for a couple of weeks now.
Most
> > of the summer the RAM has been sitting in the yard while the TJ has been
> > getting some exercise along with the motorcycles. I have been averaging
> > 20.2 MPG on the TJ (4.0L) which compared to the RAM is out standing but
> > any thing compared to a RAM is outstanding.
> >
> > Coasty
>
> DANG! How the hell do you get 20 mpg in your TJ?
> Mine gets 17 on a good day with a tail wind.
>
> Kate
>
>