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Robert Bills 09-29-2004 12:24 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
"Rock" writes:

>I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
>something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.


I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.

I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian version of
the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the second
time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and am
familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and unrestored
versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.

Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two things
that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the "provenance"
of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to park
it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

'83 CJ-7
'46 Bantam BT3C
'87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm


Robert Bills 09-29-2004 12:24 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
"Rock" writes:

>I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
>something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.


I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.

I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian version of
the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the second
time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and am
familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and unrestored
versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.

Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two things
that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the "provenance"
of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to park
it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

'83 CJ-7
'46 Bantam BT3C
'87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm


Robert Bills 09-29-2004 12:24 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
"Rock" writes:

>I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
>something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.


I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.

I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian version of
the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the second
time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and am
familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and unrestored
versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.

Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two things
that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the "provenance"
of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to park
it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.


Robert Bills
KG6LMV
Orange County CA

'83 CJ-7
'46 Bantam BT3C
'87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm


Matt Macchiarolo 09-29-2004 01:36 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
I was wondering what happened to his lawsuit. I guess D-C prevailed yet
again....

http://www.specialforces4x4.com/

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4158CFA7.A01422AC@cox.net...
>
>

http://web.archive.org/web/200402160...com/TechPhotos
/floatc1.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > 'They', not 'the'
> >
> > They Float - see the website for pics of the WWII Jeep floating with a

load of
> > GI's inside. In addition, there were Trailer paddling races this summer

in the
> > River up at Lodi, CA
> > Have a look at:
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike1.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike2.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/ChuckFrank.jpg
> >
> > Bet you never thought you'd see that huh?!
> >
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




Matt Macchiarolo 09-29-2004 01:36 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
I was wondering what happened to his lawsuit. I guess D-C prevailed yet
again....

http://www.specialforces4x4.com/

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4158CFA7.A01422AC@cox.net...
>
>

http://web.archive.org/web/200402160...com/TechPhotos
/floatc1.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > 'They', not 'the'
> >
> > They Float - see the website for pics of the WWII Jeep floating with a

load of
> > GI's inside. In addition, there were Trailer paddling races this summer

in the
> > River up at Lodi, CA
> > Have a look at:
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike1.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike2.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/ChuckFrank.jpg
> >
> > Bet you never thought you'd see that huh?!
> >
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




Matt Macchiarolo 09-29-2004 01:36 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
I was wondering what happened to his lawsuit. I guess D-C prevailed yet
again....

http://www.specialforces4x4.com/

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4158CFA7.A01422AC@cox.net...
>
>

http://web.archive.org/web/200402160...com/TechPhotos
/floatc1.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > 'They', not 'the'
> >
> > They Float - see the website for pics of the WWII Jeep floating with a

load of
> > GI's inside. In addition, there were Trailer paddling races this summer

in the
> > River up at Lodi, CA
> > Have a look at:
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike1.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/BillMike2.jpg
> >
> > http://1944willysmb.homestead.com/files/ChuckFrank.jpg
> >
> > Bet you never thought you'd see that huh?!
> >
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a

href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>




Rock 09-29-2004 01:45 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
It was just my opinion Robert after observing the rusted condition in
Brian's pictures. Apparently, you have far more experience with these types
of trailers than me. It's still a mystery to me why anyone would pay $500
for a trailer in that kind of condition.

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040929122416.03267.00001268@mb-m17.aol.com...
> "Rock" writes:
>
> >I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
> >something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.

>
> I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.
>
> I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian

version of
> the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the

second
> time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and

am
> familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and

unrestored
> versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.
>
> Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
> restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two

things
> that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the

"provenance"
> of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
> military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to

park
> it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> '83 CJ-7
> '46 Bantam BT3C
> '87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>




Rock 09-29-2004 01:45 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
It was just my opinion Robert after observing the rusted condition in
Brian's pictures. Apparently, you have far more experience with these types
of trailers than me. It's still a mystery to me why anyone would pay $500
for a trailer in that kind of condition.

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040929122416.03267.00001268@mb-m17.aol.com...
> "Rock" writes:
>
> >I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
> >something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.

>
> I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.
>
> I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian

version of
> the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the

second
> time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and

am
> familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and

unrestored
> versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.
>
> Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
> restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two

things
> that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the

"provenance"
> of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
> military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to

park
> it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> '83 CJ-7
> '46 Bantam BT3C
> '87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>




Rock 09-29-2004 01:45 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
It was just my opinion Robert after observing the rusted condition in
Brian's pictures. Apparently, you have far more experience with these types
of trailers than me. It's still a mystery to me why anyone would pay $500
for a trailer in that kind of condition.

"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:20040929122416.03267.00001268@mb-m17.aol.com...
> "Rock" writes:
>
> >I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
> >something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion junk.

>
> I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.
>
> I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian

version of
> the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the

second
> time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers, and

am
> familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and

unrestored
> versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.
>
> Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep trailer
> restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two

things
> that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the

"provenance"
> of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for a
> military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to

park
> it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.
>
>
> Robert Bills
> KG6LMV
> Orange County CA
>
> '83 CJ-7
> '46 Bantam BT3C
> '87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>




griffin 09-29-2004 02:13 PM

Re: Rare WWII Jeep Trailer - 1945 Bantam T3 (Willys MBT) - USN SEABEE's For SALE
 
When in doubt ...just nod your head and say "It's a Jeep thing." No one
understands why I choose to drive my gas-chomping CJ7 to school and back
(20km each way) when I have a perfectly good and economical '97 Corolla in
my driveway.


"Rock" <axl3rod8@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BAC6d.1543$uY3.908@fed1read03...
> It was just my opinion Robert after observing the rusted condition in
> Brian's pictures. Apparently, you have far more experience with these

types
> of trailers than me. It's still a mystery to me why anyone would pay $500
> for a trailer in that kind of condition.
>
> "Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:20040929122416.03267.00001268@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > "Rock" writes:
> >
> > >I don't know what all the fuss is about regarding the offer to sell
> > >something on this newsgroup but the trailer itself is in my opinion

junk.
> >
> > I disagree. For a WWII trailer, this specimen is far from junk.
> >
> > I have owned a 1946 Bantam BT3C trailer since the mid-60's (civilian

> version of
> > the WWII jeep trailer), and am in the process of restoring it for the

> second
> > time (once every 40 years isn't bad). I have studied these trailers,

and
> am
> > familiar with the market throughout the U.S. for both restored and

> unrestored
> > versions. There are far worse that sell quickly for much more money.
> >
> > Replacing a body panel or the floor is not uncommon in a WWII jeep

trailer
> > restoration. The 1945 license plate alone is worth $80-100. Also, two

> things
> > that make this trailer unique are the SeaBee modifications and the

> "provenance"
> > of the original U.S. Navy numbers. This would be a valuable piece for

a
> > military collector. If I didn't already have a trailer, and had room to

> park
> > it, I would pay $500 for it in an instant.
> >
> >
> > Robert Bills
> > KG6LMV
> > Orange County CA
> >
> > '83 CJ-7
> > '46 Bantam BT3C
> > '87 Ford F250 4x4 Diesel
> > http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >

>
>





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