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Nathan W. Collier 01-14-2008 01:01 AM

FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1506 for pics and
specifics.

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Lee Ayrton 01-14-2008 12:00 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Nathan W. Collier wrote:

>
> see http://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1506 for pics and
> specifics.


A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a bridge
beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?




ULB 01-14-2008 04:26 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
On Jan 14, 9:00 am, Lee Ayrton <layr...@panix.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
> > seehttp://7slotgrille.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1506for pics and
> > specifics.

>
> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a bridge
> beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?


I wouldn't be surprised if you could do just that with a properly
rated snatch block.


Nathan W. Collier 01-14-2008 05:11 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0801141159240.3950@panix1.panix .com...
> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a bridge
> beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?


unlike electric winches, hydraulic winches pull their rated load 100%, and
do it continously. they dont get hot and weaken, they are not dependant on
battery level. if your engine (or secondary electric hydraulic pump) will
run, the hydraulic winch will pull you up anything or pull the jeep in half.
:-)

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Earle Horton 01-14-2008 06:08 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Nathan W. Collier" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:wJydnZGxbci2QxbanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@bresnan.com. ..
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0801141159240.3950@panix1.panix .com...
>> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a
>> bridge beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?

>
> unlike electric winches, hydraulic winches pull their rated load 100%, and
> do it continously. they dont get hot and weaken, they are not dependant
> on battery level. if your engine (or secondary electric hydraulic pump)
> will run, the hydraulic winch will pull you up anything or pull the jeep
> in half. :-)
>

In the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" a Land Rover, nicknamed "The
Antichrist" by its driver, pulls itself up a tree, sure enough. I am
guessing it has a PTO winch though.

Cheers,

Earle



c 01-14-2008 08:16 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
Earle Horton wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:wJydnZGxbci2QxbanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@bresnan.com. ..
>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0801141159240.3950@panix1.panix .com...
>>> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a
>>> bridge beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?

>> unlike electric winches, hydraulic winches pull their rated load 100%, and
>> do it continously. they dont get hot and weaken, they are not dependant
>> on battery level. if your engine (or secondary electric hydraulic pump)
>> will run, the hydraulic winch will pull you up anything or pull the jeep
>> in half. :-)
>>

> In the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" a Land Rover, nicknamed "The
> Antichrist" by its driver, pulls itself up a tree, sure enough. I am
> guessing it has a PTO winch though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
>



Ah, one of the great classic movies of all time. You gotta love that movie.

Chris

Kate 01-18-2008 10:00 AM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 

"Earle Horton" <0123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Nathan W. Collier" <no@way.com> wrote in message
news:wJydnZGxbci2QxbanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@bresnan.com. ..
> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0801141159240.3950@panix1.panix .com...
>> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a
>> bridge beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?

>
> unlike electric winches, hydraulic winches pull their rated load 100%, and
> do it continously. they dont get hot and weaken, they are not dependant
> on battery level. if your engine (or secondary electric hydraulic pump)
> will run, the hydraulic winch will pull you up anything or pull the jeep
> in half. :-)
>

In the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" a Land Rover, nicknamed "The
Antichrist" by its driver, pulls itself up a tree, sure enough. I am
guessing it has a PTO winch though.

Cheers,

Earle

I loved that movie :)
K.




Mike Romain 01-18-2008 10:18 AM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
Kate wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <0123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fmgq39$5at$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> "Nathan W. Collier" <no@way.com> wrote in message
> news:wJydnZGxbci2QxbanZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@bresnan.com. ..
>> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0801141159240.3950@panix1.panix .com...
>>> A 5 and a quarter ton winch? Does this mean you could hook it to a
>>> bridge beam and winch the jeep straight up with it?

>> unlike electric winches, hydraulic winches pull their rated load 100%, and
>> do it continously. they dont get hot and weaken, they are not dependant
>> on battery level. if your engine (or secondary electric hydraulic pump)
>> will run, the hydraulic winch will pull you up anything or pull the jeep
>> in half. :-)
>>

> In the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy" a Land Rover, nicknamed "The
> Antichrist" by its driver, pulls itself up a tree, sure enough. I am
> guessing it has a PTO winch though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> I loved that movie :)
> K.
>
>

I have a Warn hs9000i that could easily lift my >3000 lb Jeep up into a
tree. My current battery won't leak either. I do pull other Jeeps up
cliffs.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
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Nathan W. Collier 01-18-2008 11:59 AM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> I have a Warn hs9000i that could easily lift my >3000 lb Jeep up into a
> tree. My current battery won't leak either. I do pull other Jeeps up
> cliffs.


electric winches are good for short periods of time and do serve most needs
just fine. with a hydraulic winch however, you could sit at the top of the
hill literally all day long winching one after another 24/7 without heating
up the winch or having to wait to charge the battery after a few pulls. its
an entirely different class. more than most need? sure. can electrics
compare for extended usage? no way. for extended/continual usage they are
not even in the same class.

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Mike Romain 01-18-2008 04:28 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4790c32b$0$28466$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> I have a Warn hs9000i that could easily lift my >3000 lb Jeep up into a
>> tree. My current battery won't leak either. I do pull other Jeeps up
>> cliffs.

>
> electric winches are good for short periods of time and do serve most needs
> just fine. with a hydraulic winch however, you could sit at the top of the
> hill literally all day long winching one after another 24/7 without heating
> up the winch or having to wait to charge the battery after a few pulls. its
> an entirely different class. more than most need? sure. can electrics
> compare for extended usage? no way. for extended/continual usage they are
> not even in the same class.
>


That's a real 'working' winch.

I was involved in a 3 weekend clean up of one local off road area and I
winched all the wrecked or burned out hulks up onto the main trail so
bigger trucks could drag them out. My winch got hot enough on one to
melt the heat shrink off the cable ends.

My battery held though. I have a hand throttle function as part of my
manual choke so kept it on the 1200 rpm fast idle step with the choke
off to keep the amps up.

Does yours need/use throttle?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
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Nathan W. Collier 01-19-2008 12:40 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Does yours need/use throttle?


its unnecessary. at idle the PS pump produces enough pressure to generate
the full load capacity of the winch. electric winches are great too, just
not made for continuous duty in the same way as hydraulic. im probably
going to replace it with an electric, but _only_ because the hidden winch
type bumper makes accessing the hydraulic levers (for selecting low or high
range on the winch) difficult to access.

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Mike Romain 01-29-2008 07:10 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:479119ff$0$30353$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Does yours need/use throttle?

>
> its unnecessary. at idle the PS pump produces enough pressure to generate
> the full load capacity of the winch. electric winches are great too, just
> not made for continuous duty in the same way as hydraulic. im probably
> going to replace it with an electric, but _only_ because the hidden winch
> type bumper makes accessing the hydraulic levers (for selecting low or high
> range on the winch) difficult to access.
>


Hmmm. You know, I would put up with the low range input if I already
had the hydraulic winch or I would just cut steel or redesign the lever
to make the lever work.

When I run mine all the way out to spool it tight and even, the rewind
pressure is almost too fast with an experience winder at the speed I
have with my Warn HS9000i that was left to me in a good friend's will
when he passed away.

Hay Nathan, I also figure I owe you an apology for the not too long ago
past. The 'doctors' had me on some really strange drugs that made me
just a plain antagonistic jerk.

It is amazing the difference without those ones and a different mix.

Freakin' cars! One time in 8 years I am not in a Jeep and am a
passenger to boot in a passenger side T-bone hit that was bad enough to
give me a stroke from impacting my head on the door frame has really
screwed up my life.

Anyhow, I 'am' who you first met way back when.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame in the works for '08. Some Canadian Bush Trip and Build
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Nathan W. Collier 02-01-2008 06:27 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Hay Nathan, I also figure I owe you an apology for the not too long ago
> past. The 'doctors' had me on some really strange drugs that made me just
> a plain antagonistic jerk.


you owe me no such apology sir. you are one of the true assets to this
group and i have learned a _lot_ from you over the years. god knows ive
rubbed my share of folks the wrong way.

....speaking of drugs im riding the percocet train myself right now. had my
tonsils cut out yesterday and i dont think ive EVER been so miserable.


> Anyhow, I 'am' who you first met way back when.


glad to see you again sir. thankfully, im nothing like the person i was way
back when. i guess i finally got old enough to figure it out. :)


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Old Crow 02-02-2008 06:09 AM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:27:20 -0700, "Nathan W. Collier" <no@way.com>
wrote:

>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:479FC071.2060506@sympatico.ca...
>> Hay Nathan, I also figure I owe you an apology for the not too long ago
>> past. The 'doctors' had me on some really strange drugs that made me just
>> a plain antagonistic jerk.

>
>you owe me no such apology sir. you are one of the true assets to this
>group and i have learned a _lot_ from you over the years. god knows ive
>rubbed my share of folks the wrong way.
>
>...speaking of drugs im riding the percocet train myself right now. had my
>tonsils cut out yesterday and i dont think ive EVER been so miserable.
>


"Ice cream, we're gonna eat ice cream..."

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Nathan W. Collier 02-02-2008 02:28 PM

Re: FS: 10,500# winch and jeep mount
 
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Ice cream, we're gonna eat ice cream..."


prior to surgery i bought two gallons of peanut butter chocolate from baskin
robbins. ironically i cant eat it because its not firm enough to push
through the scar tissue and feels like im drowning in it when i try to eat
it.

the one time i could eat all the ice cream i wanted to "guilt free" and i
cant even eat it. :)

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