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Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Hey all,
About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my living room? -Brian -Brian Ondrey Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." --Walt Disney A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Usually when a compressor freezes up like that the bearings are shot. It
takes a real expert to rebuild it with special tools. The best thing to do is use it as a boat anchor buy a new one and have it installed by a good mechanic that knows ac systems. It needs to be installed and placed under a vacuum down to 500 microns to make sure the entire system is clean and free of leaks. New oil needs to be added and the proper refrigerant depending on year of model. If you put it on yourself and start it up you will have two boat anchors. -- HarryS JAFGBR JAFTJO "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:dur590dgoq5jqm2bg0rrc89b18b8p5jsg7@4ax.com... > Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? > > -Brian > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Usually when a compressor freezes up like that the bearings are shot. It
takes a real expert to rebuild it with special tools. The best thing to do is use it as a boat anchor buy a new one and have it installed by a good mechanic that knows ac systems. It needs to be installed and placed under a vacuum down to 500 microns to make sure the entire system is clean and free of leaks. New oil needs to be added and the proper refrigerant depending on year of model. If you put it on yourself and start it up you will have two boat anchors. -- HarryS JAFGBR JAFTJO "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:dur590dgoq5jqm2bg0rrc89b18b8p5jsg7@4ax.com... > Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? > > -Brian > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Usually when a compressor freezes up like that the bearings are shot. It
takes a real expert to rebuild it with special tools. The best thing to do is use it as a boat anchor buy a new one and have it installed by a good mechanic that knows ac systems. It needs to be installed and placed under a vacuum down to 500 microns to make sure the entire system is clean and free of leaks. New oil needs to be added and the proper refrigerant depending on year of model. If you put it on yourself and start it up you will have two boat anchors. -- HarryS JAFGBR JAFTJO "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:dur590dgoq5jqm2bg0rrc89b18b8p5jsg7@4ax.com... > Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? > > -Brian > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Usually when a compressor freezes up like that the bearings are shot. It
takes a real expert to rebuild it with special tools. The best thing to do is use it as a boat anchor buy a new one and have it installed by a good mechanic that knows ac systems. It needs to be installed and placed under a vacuum down to 500 microns to make sure the entire system is clean and free of leaks. New oil needs to be added and the proper refrigerant depending on year of model. If you put it on yourself and start it up you will have two boat anchors. -- HarryS JAFGBR JAFTJO "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:dur590dgoq5jqm2bg0rrc89b18b8p5jsg7@4ax.com... > Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? > > -Brian > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new and exciting project. And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some idea of what is inside a typical compressor. ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... -- Evolution is merely survival of the minimally adequate |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new and exciting project. And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some idea of what is inside a typical compressor. ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... -- Evolution is merely survival of the minimally adequate |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new and exciting project. And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some idea of what is inside a typical compressor. ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... -- Evolution is merely survival of the minimally adequate |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed:
> Hey all, > > About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > living room? It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new and exciting project. And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some idea of what is inside a typical compressor. ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... -- Evolution is merely survival of the minimally adequate |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
<"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: >> Hey all, >> >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my >> living room? > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > and exciting project. > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it works" obsession. My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving soon....decisions decisions. -Brian Ondrey Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." --Walt Disney A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
<"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: >> Hey all, >> >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my >> living room? > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > and exciting project. > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it works" obsession. My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving soon....decisions decisions. -Brian Ondrey Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." --Walt Disney A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
<"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: >> Hey all, >> >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my >> living room? > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > and exciting project. > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it works" obsession. My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving soon....decisions decisions. -Brian Ondrey Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." --Walt Disney A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11"
<"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: >> Hey all, >> >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my >> living room? > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > and exciting project. > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it works" obsession. My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving soon....decisions decisions. -Brian Ondrey Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." --Walt Disney A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least
most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace the idler bearing for the clutch. Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and a pulley and clutch shoe to see. There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get it done. Steve G. "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > >> living room? > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > and exciting project. > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > works" obsession. > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > soon....decisions decisions. > > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least
most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace the idler bearing for the clutch. Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and a pulley and clutch shoe to see. There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get it done. Steve G. "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > >> living room? > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > and exciting project. > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > works" obsession. > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > soon....decisions decisions. > > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least
most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace the idler bearing for the clutch. Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and a pulley and clutch shoe to see. There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get it done. Steve G. "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > >> living room? > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > and exciting project. > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > works" obsession. > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > soon....decisions decisions. > > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least
most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace the idler bearing for the clutch. Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and a pulley and clutch shoe to see. There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get it done. Steve G. "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > >> Hey all, > >> > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > >> living room? > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > and exciting project. > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > works" obsession. > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > soon....decisions decisions. > > -Brian Ondrey > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > --Walt Disney > A&B=LFCI |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Steve G is correct
I had the same problem with my compressor clutch. Found a rebuilt clutch on the web for about $60. A few simple tools is all I needed to replace it. Make sure to get you air gap correct on the clutch. No need to open the A/C system on this..... "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:%bZkc.336500$Ig.329967@pd7tw2no... > Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least > most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the > bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has > to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the > pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but > freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. > If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it > you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace > the idler bearing for the clutch. > Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all > of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any > compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. > If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be > pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and > a pulley and clutch shoe to see. > There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to > get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get > it done. > Steve G. > "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > > >> Hey all, > > >> > > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > > >> living room? > > > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > > and exciting project. > > > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > > works" obsession. > > > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > > soon....decisions decisions. > > > > -Brian Ondrey > > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > --Walt Disney > > A&B=LFCI > > |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Steve G is correct
I had the same problem with my compressor clutch. Found a rebuilt clutch on the web for about $60. A few simple tools is all I needed to replace it. Make sure to get you air gap correct on the clutch. No need to open the A/C system on this..... "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:%bZkc.336500$Ig.329967@pd7tw2no... > Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least > most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the > bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has > to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the > pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but > freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. > If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it > you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace > the idler bearing for the clutch. > Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all > of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any > compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. > If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be > pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and > a pulley and clutch shoe to see. > There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to > get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get > it done. > Steve G. > "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > > >> Hey all, > > >> > > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > > >> living room? > > > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > > and exciting project. > > > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > > works" obsession. > > > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > > soon....decisions decisions. > > > > -Brian Ondrey > > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > --Walt Disney > > A&B=LFCI > > |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Steve G is correct
I had the same problem with my compressor clutch. Found a rebuilt clutch on the web for about $60. A few simple tools is all I needed to replace it. Make sure to get you air gap correct on the clutch. No need to open the A/C system on this..... "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:%bZkc.336500$Ig.329967@pd7tw2no... > Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least > most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the > bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has > to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the > pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but > freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. > If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it > you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace > the idler bearing for the clutch. > Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all > of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any > compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. > If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be > pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and > a pulley and clutch shoe to see. > There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to > get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get > it done. > Steve G. > "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > > >> Hey all, > > >> > > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > > >> living room? > > > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > > and exciting project. > > > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > > works" obsession. > > > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > > soon....decisions decisions. > > > > -Brian Ondrey > > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > --Walt Disney > > A&B=LFCI > > |
Re: Frozen clutch on AC compressor...worth keeping/selling?
Steve G is correct
I had the same problem with my compressor clutch. Found a rebuilt clutch on the web for about $60. A few simple tools is all I needed to replace it. Make sure to get you air gap correct on the clutch. No need to open the A/C system on this..... "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:%bZkc.336500$Ig.329967@pd7tw2no... > Contrary to what Harry s wrote, the compressor is not toast, or at least > most likely not. The bearing that the pully rides on is seperate from the > bearings that the compressor's crank runs on. Think about it, the pully has > to be able to freewheel when compressor clutch is not engaged. If the > pully would not turn and was frozen when the clutch was engaged, but > freewheeled when the clutch was disengaged, then the compressor is fried. > If you put a socket on the nut you see on the end of the shaft and turn it > you are turning the compressor internals. If it feels okay, just replace > the idler bearing for the clutch. > Pretty simple job and it's too bad you removed the compressor and lost all > of the refrigerant. Replacement of the clutch does not involve any > compressor internals and does not need the system drained of refrigerant. > If you're itching to see the inside of that thing you're going to be > pretty disappointed. Not a very exciting job and nothing but a bearing and > a pulley and clutch shoe to see. > There's a special puller you need to remove the outer shoe of the clutch to > get at the bearing. Get a hold of one of those and a manual and you'll get > it done. > Steve G. > "Wolfhounde" <wolfhounde(remove_me)@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:h67690h5argvjg93g4t812jj45rbkv56il@4ax.com... > > On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:50:20 GMT, "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > > <"L0nD0t.$t0we11"@ComcastDot.Net> wrote: > > > > >Roughly 4/30/04 17:36, Wolfhounde's monkeys randomly typed: > > >> Hey all, > > >> > > >> About 2 months ago, wheel that is run off the serpentine for the AC > > >> compressor froze up. Well bye bye belt. I couldn't find a garage > > >> that wanted to work only on the clutch. Instead they all suggested > > >> just replacing the whole compressor (esp since its 120000 miles old). > > >> Well, I took the old compressor but have no time or place to work on > > >> it to see why the wheel froze. It just bothers me that as far as I > > >> know, the compressor should still work. Any thoughts on what to do > > >> with it, or anyone near Baltimore want to offer me a few bucks for it? > > >> Or do I just have a small hunk of jeep guts taking up space in my > > >> living room? > > > > > > It depends. Are you married, and how good a sport is your spouse? > > > > > > If single, you have a valuable artifact that may come in handy at > > > some point in the future as spare parts or the beginnings of a new > > > and exciting project. > > > > > > And someday, you might get a round tuit and take the thing apart for > > > nothing more than the sheer zen of doing so even if you discover it > > > is locked up like Fort Knox internally. At least you'll have some > > > idea of what is inside a typical compressor. > > > > > > ...then again, if you've been given a spousal dictate.... > > > > okie yes, admittedly the idea of disassembling it has my fingers > > itching. I do also have the plus of a fiancee that shares my > > curiosity, or at the very least understands my "gotta see how it > > works" obsession. > > > > My only downside is no place to really work on it and I'll be moving > > soon....decisions decisions. > > > > -Brian Ondrey > > Send replies to: wolfhounde@NOSPAMcomcast.net > > > > "It's kind of fun to do the impossible." > > --Walt Disney > > A&B=LFCI > > |
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