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James 11-03-2006 04:48 PM

Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 


I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.




I have three questions:


1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
(specific model and brand)


2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than the
4 x6 size ?


3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface mount
the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?


-------------------------------------

Thanks for any tips !!!!


--James--





Rich 11-03-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Go t crutchfields, they can answer your questions far better than a bunch
of guys who drive Jeep trucks not cars.. Do a google search for them.
PS you'll piss off a bunch of guys on this NG if you call a Jeep a car...

--
Rich Harris :1986 CJ7, Detroits F/R, 4:10's, 33"BFGMT's, Mopar F/I, 4.0L
head, Crower Cam, Rubicon Express 2.5" Wrangler springs, Procomp MX6 Shocks,
Mastercraft seats and a bunch more fun stuff. To Reply; shave my hair.
"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:A9GdnQ8mn7CxJNbYnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
> I have three questions:
>
>
> 1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
> (specific model and brand)
>
>
> 2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than
> the
> 4 x6 size ?
>
>
> 3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
> significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface
> mount
> the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
> --James--
>
>
>
>




Rich 11-03-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Go t crutchfields, they can answer your questions far better than a bunch
of guys who drive Jeep trucks not cars.. Do a google search for them.
PS you'll piss off a bunch of guys on this NG if you call a Jeep a car...

--
Rich Harris :1986 CJ7, Detroits F/R, 4:10's, 33"BFGMT's, Mopar F/I, 4.0L
head, Crower Cam, Rubicon Express 2.5" Wrangler springs, Procomp MX6 Shocks,
Mastercraft seats and a bunch more fun stuff. To Reply; shave my hair.
"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:A9GdnQ8mn7CxJNbYnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
> I have three questions:
>
>
> 1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
> (specific model and brand)
>
>
> 2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than
> the
> 4 x6 size ?
>
>
> 3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
> significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface
> mount
> the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
> --James--
>
>
>
>




Rich 11-03-2006 05:43 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Go t crutchfields, they can answer your questions far better than a bunch
of guys who drive Jeep trucks not cars.. Do a google search for them.
PS you'll piss off a bunch of guys on this NG if you call a Jeep a car...

--
Rich Harris :1986 CJ7, Detroits F/R, 4:10's, 33"BFGMT's, Mopar F/I, 4.0L
head, Crower Cam, Rubicon Express 2.5" Wrangler springs, Procomp MX6 Shocks,
Mastercraft seats and a bunch more fun stuff. To Reply; shave my hair.
"James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
news:A9GdnQ8mn7CxJNbYnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
> I have three questions:
>
>
> 1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
> (specific model and brand)
>
>
> 2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than
> the
> 4 x6 size ?
>
>
> 3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
> significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface
> mount
> the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
> --James--
>
>
>
>




James 11-03-2006 05:50 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Rich, I have emailed the exact question to Crutchfield. In fact, that is
where I started for info. I don't have an answer from them yet.

Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
very informative.

Thanks for the reply Rich !!

--james--



James 11-03-2006 05:50 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Rich, I have emailed the exact question to Crutchfield. In fact, that is
where I started for info. I don't have an answer from them yet.

Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
very informative.

Thanks for the reply Rich !!

--james--



James 11-03-2006 05:50 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Rich, I have emailed the exact question to Crutchfield. In fact, that is
where I started for info. I don't have an answer from them yet.

Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
very informative.

Thanks for the reply Rich !!

--james--



Scott in Baltimore 11-03-2006 07:34 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James wrote:
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.



Back in 1997, there were no adapters for the speakers, so I made my own
brackets to mount them. I got some cheap pair of Polk 4x6's and made do.
With an eight inch speaker box from the local discount store, I've got tunes!

Be sure to have at least 50 watts per SPEAKER if you'd like to hear your tunes
with the top down. This amount of power allows you enough volume without lots
of distortion.

Scott in Baltimore 11-03-2006 07:34 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James wrote:
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.



Back in 1997, there were no adapters for the speakers, so I made my own
brackets to mount them. I got some cheap pair of Polk 4x6's and made do.
With an eight inch speaker box from the local discount store, I've got tunes!

Be sure to have at least 50 watts per SPEAKER if you'd like to hear your tunes
with the top down. This amount of power allows you enough volume without lots
of distortion.

Scott in Baltimore 11-03-2006 07:34 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James wrote:
> I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
> speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
> speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
> 1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.



Back in 1997, there were no adapters for the speakers, so I made my own
brackets to mount them. I got some cheap pair of Polk 4x6's and made do.
With an eight inch speaker box from the local discount store, I've got tunes!

Be sure to have at least 50 watts per SPEAKER if you'd like to hear your tunes
with the top down. This amount of power allows you enough volume without lots
of distortion.

Micah 11-03-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.

Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
ranges.

I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.


Micah 11-03-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.

Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
ranges.

I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.


Micah 11-03-2006 10:19 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.

Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
ranges.

I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.


BW 11-04-2006 07:28 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James, You can buy these adapters on ebay for around $20 shipped and
yes you are right about the 5 1/4" speakers. I have done exactly what
you are looking to do and they sound great! I purchased a set of
Inifinity Kappas 5 1/4" off Ebay as well. One thing that will make it
sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at
Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled
insulation, add just enough to close in the back section of those
speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing. It'll help
throw the sound towards you instead of getting lost behind the dash
especially when the top is off.






On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:48:31 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>
>
>I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
>speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
>speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
>1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
>I have three questions:
>
>
>1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
>(specific model and brand)
>
>
>2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than the
>4 x6 size ?
>
>
>3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
>significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface mount
>the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
>-------------------------------------
>
>Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
>--James--
>
>
>



BW 11-04-2006 07:28 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James, You can buy these adapters on ebay for around $20 shipped and
yes you are right about the 5 1/4" speakers. I have done exactly what
you are looking to do and they sound great! I purchased a set of
Inifinity Kappas 5 1/4" off Ebay as well. One thing that will make it
sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at
Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled
insulation, add just enough to close in the back section of those
speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing. It'll help
throw the sound towards you instead of getting lost behind the dash
especially when the top is off.






On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:48:31 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>
>
>I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
>speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
>speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
>1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
>I have three questions:
>
>
>1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
>(specific model and brand)
>
>
>2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than the
>4 x6 size ?
>
>
>3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
>significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface mount
>the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
>-------------------------------------
>
>Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
>--James--
>
>
>



BW 11-04-2006 07:28 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
James, You can buy these adapters on ebay for around $20 shipped and
yes you are right about the 5 1/4" speakers. I have done exactly what
you are looking to do and they sound great! I purchased a set of
Inifinity Kappas 5 1/4" off Ebay as well. One thing that will make it
sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at
Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled
insulation, add just enough to close in the back section of those
speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing. It'll help
throw the sound towards you instead of getting lost behind the dash
especially when the top is off.






On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 16:48:31 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>
>
>I want new speakers for the front of my 1997 Jeep Wrangler. The stock
>speakers are 4 x6, but I can buy an adaptor that will allow 5 1/4
>speakers. I get the impression that I can get a better speaker in the 5
>1/4 inch size than the 4 x6 size.
>
>
>
>
>I have three questions:
>
>
>1. What would be a good choice of speakers for this application ?
>(specific model and brand)
>
>
>2. Am I correct, is the 5 1/4 inch size inherently better than the
>4 x6 size ?
>
>
>3. For this specific car, would separate drivers/tweeters be
>significantly better than a coaxial speaker ? Where would I surface mount
>the tweeters ? Would separates be quite easy to install?
>
>
>-------------------------------------
>
>Thanks for any tips !!!!
>
>
>--James--
>
>
>



James 11-04-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Thanks for the tips BW !!!

--James--



James 11-04-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Thanks for the tips BW !!!

--James--



James 11-04-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
Thanks for the tips BW !!!

--James--



BW 11-04-2006 08:24 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
No Problem James, Glad I could help ya out. Didn't know if that first
one came through, used my other news reader sw, been having problems
with the news server....







On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:07:12 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the tips BW !!!
>
>--James--
>



BW 11-04-2006 08:24 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
No Problem James, Glad I could help ya out. Didn't know if that first
one came through, used my other news reader sw, been having problems
with the news server....







On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:07:12 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the tips BW !!!
>
>--James--
>



BW 11-04-2006 08:24 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
No Problem James, Glad I could help ya out. Didn't know if that first
one came through, used my other news reader sw, been having problems
with the news server....







On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 08:07:12 -0500, "James" <jnipperxxx@nospamfdn.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for the tips BW !!!
>
>--James--
>



Mark 11-04-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
BW wrote:
>> One thing that will make it sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled insulation,add just enough to close in the back section of those speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing.


Did something similar to my rig, it improves even the stock speaker's
sound considerably. Also stuff some in the soundbar tubes behind the
speakers.

Have some advice, though. Use polyester batting instead of cotton, if
you soak your dash (don't ask how <g>), cotton will retain water and
corrode dash electrics. And put the batting in sections of tied up
women's nylon hose, to keep the stuff from migrating around.


Mark 11-04-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
BW wrote:
>> One thing that will make it sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled insulation,add just enough to close in the back section of those speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing.


Did something similar to my rig, it improves even the stock speaker's
sound considerably. Also stuff some in the soundbar tubes behind the
speakers.

Have some advice, though. Use polyester batting instead of cotton, if
you soak your dash (don't ask how <g>), cotton will retain water and
corrode dash electrics. And put the batting in sections of tied up
women's nylon hose, to keep the stuff from migrating around.


Mark 11-04-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
BW wrote:
>> One thing that will make it sound a lot better is to get some cotton batting, you can find at Walmart for a couple bucks (material/craft dept) or common rolled insulation,add just enough to close in the back section of those speakers openings, behind the speakers when installing.


Did something similar to my rig, it improves even the stock speaker's
sound considerably. Also stuff some in the soundbar tubes behind the
speakers.

Have some advice, though. Use polyester batting instead of cotton, if
you soak your dash (don't ask how <g>), cotton will retain water and
corrode dash electrics. And put the batting in sections of tied up
women's nylon hose, to keep the stuff from migrating around.


Kate 11-05-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
Jeeps are usually subjected to.

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
"Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
> audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
> exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
> mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>
> Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
> (Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
> up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
> speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
> duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
> on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
> and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
> speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
> ranges.
>
> I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
> of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
> find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>




Kate 11-05-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
Jeeps are usually subjected to.

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
"Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
> audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
> exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
> mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>
> Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
> (Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
> up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
> speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
> duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
> on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
> and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
> speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
> ranges.
>
> I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
> of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
> find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>




Kate 11-05-2006 11:29 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
Jeeps are usually subjected to.

Kate
2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
"Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
> audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
> exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
> mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>
> Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
> (Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
> up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
> speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
> duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
> on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
> and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
> speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
> ranges.
>
> I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
> of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
> find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>




Lon 11-05-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 

Take a look at the speaker. If it is just a bigger speaker with a small
cone glued to the middle of the speaker, it is not a separate unit, it
is just a whizzer cone. The only real way to have separate speakers is
if there are separate voice coils, magnets, and speaker cones. You
should be able to see a separate set of wires running from the larger
speaker to the smaller one.

Real tweeters tend to be a waste of money in an automobile unless they
are aimed straight at your ears or at a reflective surface such as the
windshield so the high frequency sound can bounce off the windshield to
your ears.

Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to
be able to hear them anyway.


Kate proclaimed:

> I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
> speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
> seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
> that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
> Jeeps are usually subjected to.
>
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
>>audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
>>exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
>>mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>>
>>Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
>>(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
>>up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
>>speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
>>duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
>>on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
>>and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
>>speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
>>ranges.
>>
>>I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
>>of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
>>find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>>

>
>
>


Lon 11-05-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 

Take a look at the speaker. If it is just a bigger speaker with a small
cone glued to the middle of the speaker, it is not a separate unit, it
is just a whizzer cone. The only real way to have separate speakers is
if there are separate voice coils, magnets, and speaker cones. You
should be able to see a separate set of wires running from the larger
speaker to the smaller one.

Real tweeters tend to be a waste of money in an automobile unless they
are aimed straight at your ears or at a reflective surface such as the
windshield so the high frequency sound can bounce off the windshield to
your ears.

Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to
be able to hear them anyway.


Kate proclaimed:

> I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
> speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
> seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
> that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
> Jeeps are usually subjected to.
>
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
>>audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
>>exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
>>mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>>
>>Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
>>(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
>>up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
>>speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
>>duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
>>on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
>>and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
>>speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
>>ranges.
>>
>>I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
>>of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
>>find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>>

>
>
>


Lon 11-05-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 

Take a look at the speaker. If it is just a bigger speaker with a small
cone glued to the middle of the speaker, it is not a separate unit, it
is just a whizzer cone. The only real way to have separate speakers is
if there are separate voice coils, magnets, and speaker cones. You
should be able to see a separate set of wires running from the larger
speaker to the smaller one.

Real tweeters tend to be a waste of money in an automobile unless they
are aimed straight at your ears or at a reflective surface such as the
windshield so the high frequency sound can bounce off the windshield to
your ears.

Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to
be able to hear them anyway.


Kate proclaimed:

> I went to the audio store not long ago asking about replacing my stock
> speakers the guy in there recommended Clarion. He said that they have
> seperate woof and tweets even though they ae all in one unit. He also said
> that they would be more weather resistant, considering the application that
> Jeeps are usually subjected to.
>
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O6 Rhooooobekwan
> "Micah" <mgoodenbour@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162610379.673101.95170@m73g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
>>In my defense... I'm speaking here as someone who has run professional
>>audio systems for about a decade rather than one with the "fartcan
>>exhaust, neon lighting, and rap music with 18 subwoofers in a Civic"
>>mentality... I appreciate quality of sound over volume.
>>
>>Smaller speakers, as a general rule, will produce higher pitches.
>>(Consider that tweeters average a diameter of an inch and subwoofers go
>>up to around 18") There's nothing inherently "better" about 5 1/2"
>>speakers over 4"x6" speakers. My jeep has 4x6s with some pretty heavy
>>duty bass blockers attached in the front to handle the high end, 5.5s
>>on a soundbar with mid-level bass blockers to put out the mid-range,
>>and 6x9s in the back to put a little low end in the mix. All the
>>speakers are Rockford Fosgate, they put out a clean crisp sound in all
>>ranges.
>>
>>I wouldn't waste my money on adapters to put bigger speakers in place
>>of the 4x6s, personally. If you have big speakers all around you may
>>find yourself with a rather "muddy" sound.
>>

>
>
>


Scott in Baltimore 11-05-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
> Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
> There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to be
> able to hear them anyway.


Hence my suggestion to use inexpensive speakers and cheap truck boxes so they
can be replaced when deluged. I'm on my third set. We get extreme humidity
here sometimes with week long rainy spells. My last top had algae on it in places.
Drain plugs are your friend if you park so the front is angled down so they work!

Scott in Baltimore 11-05-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
> Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
> There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to be
> able to hear them anyway.


Hence my suggestion to use inexpensive speakers and cheap truck boxes so they
can be replaced when deluged. I'm on my third set. We get extreme humidity
here sometimes with week long rainy spells. My last top had algae on it in places.
Drain plugs are your friend if you park so the front is angled down so they work!

Scott in Baltimore 11-05-2006 09:22 PM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
> Clarion is OK for automobile use and may be good enough for your tastes.
> There are better brands, but in a Jeep you are not overly likely to be
> able to hear them anyway.


Hence my suggestion to use inexpensive speakers and cheap truck boxes so they
can be replaced when deluged. I'm on my third set. We get extreme humidity
here sometimes with week long rainy spells. My last top had algae on it in places.
Drain plugs are your friend if you park so the front is angled down so they work!

B A R R Y 11-06-2006 07:18 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
>
> Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
> experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
> very informative.


No matter what you choose, put a baffle behind the speaker. The dash
speakers have nothing behind them, offering little bass response without
some sort of enclosure. The angle of the dash speakers is pretty bad
for sound quality. If we had ears on our knees, they'd be perfect.

FWIW, I've called my Wranglers "the Jeep" and "the car", but never "the
truck". <G> My Tacoma and the other pickups I've owned were/are "the
truck"...

Now, if my Jeeps were Scramblers...

B A R R Y 11-06-2006 07:18 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
>
> Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
> experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
> very informative.


No matter what you choose, put a baffle behind the speaker. The dash
speakers have nothing behind them, offering little bass response without
some sort of enclosure. The angle of the dash speakers is pretty bad
for sound quality. If we had ears on our knees, they'd be perfect.

FWIW, I've called my Wranglers "the Jeep" and "the car", but never "the
truck". <G> My Tacoma and the other pickups I've owned were/are "the
truck"...

Now, if my Jeeps were Scramblers...

B A R R Y 11-06-2006 07:18 AM

Re: Front Speakers for 1997 Jeep Wrangler ?
 
>
> Regardless of what Crutchfield says, I still want to know from the actual
> experience of the people on these groups. Usually, that info and input is
> very informative.


No matter what you choose, put a baffle behind the speaker. The dash
speakers have nothing behind them, offering little bass response without
some sort of enclosure. The angle of the dash speakers is pretty bad
for sound quality. If we had ears on our knees, they'd be perfect.

FWIW, I've called my Wranglers "the Jeep" and "the car", but never "the
truck". <G> My Tacoma and the other pickups I've owned were/are "the
truck"...

Now, if my Jeeps were Scramblers...


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