Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Just another idea. Bent axle component?
Justin M wrote: > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > Wow. Uh... > > So... > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > - Replaced both front brake rotors > - Replaced trackbar > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > - Disconnected front driveshaft > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > Justin M wrote: > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Just another idea. Bent axle component?
Justin M wrote: > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > Wow. Uh... > > So... > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > - Replaced both front brake rotors > - Replaced trackbar > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > - Disconnected front driveshaft > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > Justin M wrote: > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Just another idea. Bent axle component?
Justin M wrote: > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > Wow. Uh... > > So... > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > - Replaced both front brake rotors > - Replaced trackbar > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > - Disconnected front driveshaft > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > Justin M wrote: > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Years ago, we had a vehicle with the same problem, I was managing an
alignment shop at the time, and we sold the customer his tires, did the balance, and alignment on the truck. We ended up taking 4 tires and rims off of another truck and test driving the truck, it stopped vibrating. What the mechanic had to do was (oddly) brake the bead on the tire, rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim and reinflate/ rebalance. The tires and wheels were in balance before doing this. ANyway it fixed the problem. I dont know if you have the same problem, but figured I'd bring it up. good luck. On 8 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0800, "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote: >Not the rear driveshaft, either. > >Wow. Uh... > >So... > >- Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >- Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >- Replaced passenger side u-joint >- Replaced passenger side ball-joints >- Replaced both front brake rotors >- Replaced trackbar >- Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >- Checked and double checked tie-rod >- Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >- Disconnected front driveshaft >- Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > >I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > >Justin M wrote: >> nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> >> rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> >> >> > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that >> > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Years ago, we had a vehicle with the same problem, I was managing an
alignment shop at the time, and we sold the customer his tires, did the balance, and alignment on the truck. We ended up taking 4 tires and rims off of another truck and test driving the truck, it stopped vibrating. What the mechanic had to do was (oddly) brake the bead on the tire, rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim and reinflate/ rebalance. The tires and wheels were in balance before doing this. ANyway it fixed the problem. I dont know if you have the same problem, but figured I'd bring it up. good luck. On 8 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0800, "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote: >Not the rear driveshaft, either. > >Wow. Uh... > >So... > >- Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >- Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >- Replaced passenger side u-joint >- Replaced passenger side ball-joints >- Replaced both front brake rotors >- Replaced trackbar >- Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >- Checked and double checked tie-rod >- Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >- Disconnected front driveshaft >- Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > >I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > >Justin M wrote: >> nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> >> rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> >> >> > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that >> > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Years ago, we had a vehicle with the same problem, I was managing an
alignment shop at the time, and we sold the customer his tires, did the balance, and alignment on the truck. We ended up taking 4 tires and rims off of another truck and test driving the truck, it stopped vibrating. What the mechanic had to do was (oddly) brake the bead on the tire, rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim and reinflate/ rebalance. The tires and wheels were in balance before doing this. ANyway it fixed the problem. I dont know if you have the same problem, but figured I'd bring it up. good luck. On 8 Nov 2006 18:43:40 -0800, "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote: >Not the rear driveshaft, either. > >Wow. Uh... > >So... > >- Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >- Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >- Replaced passenger side u-joint >- Replaced passenger side ball-joints >- Replaced both front brake rotors >- Replaced trackbar >- Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >- Checked and double checked tie-rod >- Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >- Disconnected front driveshaft >- Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > >I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > >Justin M wrote: >> nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> >> rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> >> >> > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that >> > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even
when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. But I'll check this out tomorrow. Thanks :) j DougW wrote: > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > Have you checked the motor and transmission mounts? > http://revbeergoggles.com/motormount/ > > What about the harmonic balancer (lowest pully on engine) > make sure it's not walking off. Those can make vibrations > if they start to separate and rotate around the rubber isolator. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even
when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. But I'll check this out tomorrow. Thanks :) j DougW wrote: > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > Have you checked the motor and transmission mounts? > http://revbeergoggles.com/motormount/ > > What about the harmonic balancer (lowest pully on engine) > make sure it's not walking off. Those can make vibrations > if they start to separate and rotate around the rubber isolator. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even
when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. But I'll check this out tomorrow. Thanks :) j DougW wrote: > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > Have you checked the motor and transmission mounts? > http://revbeergoggles.com/motormount/ > > What about the harmonic balancer (lowest pully on engine) > make sure it's not walking off. Those can make vibrations > if they start to separate and rotate around the rubber isolator. > > -- > DougW |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled
the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would have been... Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. nrs wrote: > Just another idea. Bent axle component? > > > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > > - Replaced both front brake rotors > > - Replaced trackbar > > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > > - Disconnected front driveshaft > > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > > > > Justin M wrote: > > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled
the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would have been... Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. nrs wrote: > Just another idea. Bent axle component? > > > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > > - Replaced both front brake rotors > > - Replaced trackbar > > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > > - Disconnected front driveshaft > > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > > > > Justin M wrote: > > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled
the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would have been... Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. nrs wrote: > Just another idea. Bent axle component? > > > Justin M wrote: > > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > > > > Wow. Uh... > > > > So... > > > > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > > - Replaced both front brake rotors > > - Replaced trackbar > > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > > - Disconnected front driveshaft > > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > > > > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > > > > > > Justin M wrote: > > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > > > > > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if that > > > > makes a difference. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I checked the fan clutch tonight -- it seemed solid and tight.
Anything I should specifically be looking for? Mike Romain wrote: > When it got this bad, the failed part finally showed up by taking a > piece out of my fan shroud. It was the damn clutch on the radiator fan! |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I checked the fan clutch tonight -- it seemed solid and tight.
Anything I should specifically be looking for? Mike Romain wrote: > When it got this bad, the failed part finally showed up by taking a > piece out of my fan shroud. It was the damn clutch on the radiator fan! |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I checked the fan clutch tonight -- it seemed solid and tight.
Anything I should specifically be looking for? Mike Romain wrote: > When it got this bad, the failed part finally showed up by taking a > piece out of my fan shroud. It was the damn clutch on the radiator fan! |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Hi Jason,
It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you shouldn't travel at seventy: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Justin M wrote: > > I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even > when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the > engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph > and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. > > But I'll check this out tomorrow. > > Thanks :) > j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Hi Jason,
It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you shouldn't travel at seventy: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Justin M wrote: > > I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even > when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the > engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph > and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. > > But I'll check this out tomorrow. > > Thanks :) > j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Hi Jason,
It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you shouldn't travel at seventy: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Justin M wrote: > > I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even > when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the > engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph > and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. > > But I'll check this out tomorrow. > > Thanks :) > j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Thats my thoughts too
-- "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4554155E.265E7F4A@cox.net... > Hi Jason, > It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock > rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see > how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: > http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg > And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more > factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you > shouldn't travel at seventy: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Justin M wrote: >> >> I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even >> when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the >> engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph >> and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. >> >> But I'll check this out tomorrow. >> >> Thanks :) >> j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Thats my thoughts too
-- "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4554155E.265E7F4A@cox.net... > Hi Jason, > It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock > rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see > how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: > http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg > And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more > factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you > shouldn't travel at seventy: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Justin M wrote: >> >> I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even >> when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the >> engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph >> and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. >> >> But I'll check this out tomorrow. >> >> Thanks :) >> j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Thats my thoughts too
-- "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4554155E.265E7F4A@cox.net... > Hi Jason, > It's got to be your tires, find someone with a set of his stock > rims and tires sitting in their garage to use, as a test. You may see > how a Dragster tire distorts at speed: > http://www.dragracingonline.com/agen...distortion.jpg > And considering every tire is hand made it's a miracle there are more > factory seconds out there. What is your speed rating, maybe you > shouldn't travel at seventy: > http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=35 > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Justin M wrote: >> >> I'm almost positive it's not an engine component: this happens even >> when both the transmission and transfer case are in neutral and the >> engine is running at 600 rpm. The vibration only happens between 65mph >> and 70mph -- it smooths out above and below that. >> >> But I'll check this out tomorrow. >> >> Thanks :) >> j |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>It's got to be your tires I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>It's got to be your tires I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>It's got to be your tires I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Outatime wrote:
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote: > > >It's got to be your tires > > I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set > with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Outatime wrote:
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote: > > >It's got to be your tires > > I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set > with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Outatime wrote:
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote: > > >It's got to be your tires > > I agree, even if they've been rebalanced. Swapping a known good set > with OEM rims temporarily makes sense. Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over...
:) > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over...
:) > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over...
:) > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Good call, Mike. Yes, he did, and I didn't catch it. Another idea I've used in the past for some really troublesome vibration problems in the past: pilot car. Have a buddy drive alongside while the vibration is present; have him spot both sides to see if anything visual will give the culprit away. A shimmying wheel, axle or steering componant can often be seen this way. I once used this to spot a loose spare tire on a 4-runner; symptoms were a shudder and 'thump' noise when accellerating/decellerating somewhere in the back. Apparantly, a thief took all but one lug nut off and didn't finish the job for some reason, but slipped the cover back on just for laughs. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Good call, Mike. Yes, he did, and I didn't catch it. Another idea I've used in the past for some really troublesome vibration problems in the past: pilot car. Have a buddy drive alongside while the vibration is present; have him spot both sides to see if anything visual will give the culprit away. A shimmying wheel, axle or steering componant can often be seen this way. I once used this to spot a loose spare tire on a 4-runner; symptoms were a shudder and 'thump' noise when accellerating/decellerating somewhere in the back. Apparantly, a thief took all but one lug nut off and didn't finish the job for some reason, but slipped the cover back on just for laughs. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Mike Romain wrote:
> Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. Good call, Mike. Yes, he did, and I didn't catch it. Another idea I've used in the past for some really troublesome vibration problems in the past: pilot car. Have a buddy drive alongside while the vibration is present; have him spot both sides to see if anything visual will give the culprit away. A shimmying wheel, axle or steering componant can often be seen this way. I once used this to spot a loose spare tire on a 4-runner; symptoms were a shudder and 'thump' noise when accellerating/decellerating somewhere in the back. Apparantly, a thief took all but one lug nut off and didn't finish the job for some reason, but slipped the cover back on just for laughs. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Justin, call that guy who is on the radio and diagnoses cars, Jeff
Brooks is his name and I think its the radiostar something network. That man is GOD for car repair... and let me know my 93 cherokee has the same shimmy at 50 mph when turning right Paintstone Justin M wrote: > I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over... > :) > > > > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Justin, call that guy who is on the radio and diagnoses cars, Jeff
Brooks is his name and I think its the radiostar something network. That man is GOD for car repair... and let me know my 93 cherokee has the same shimmy at 50 mph when turning right Paintstone Justin M wrote: > I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over... > :) > > > > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
Justin, call that guy who is on the radio and diagnoses cars, Jeff
Brooks is his name and I think its the radiostar something network. That man is GOD for car repair... and let me know my 93 cherokee has the same shimmy at 50 mph when turning right Paintstone Justin M wrote: > I'm starting to look for a nice steep cliff to push the thing over... > :) > > > > Gents, in the original post to this thread and in others he has stated > > he borrowed another set of tires and had the same trouble. |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
OHH :-( ......... It's lifted ?? Lifting misaligns all the drive shafts
!! JVM "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163133204.536848.321340@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled > the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They > look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's > no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would > have been... > > Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. > > I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. > > After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly > mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's > service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. > > > > nrs wrote: >> Just another idea. Bent axle component? >> >> >> Justin M wrote: >> > Not the rear driveshaft, either. >> > >> > Wow. Uh... >> > >> > So... >> > >> > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >> > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >> > - Replaced passenger side u-joint >> > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints >> > - Replaced both front brake rotors >> > - Replaced trackbar >> > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >> > - Checked and double checked tie-rod >> > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >> > - Disconnected front driveshaft >> > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint >> > >> > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) >> > >> > >> > Justin M wrote: >> > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> > > >> > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> > > >> > > >> > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if >> > > > that >> > > > makes a difference. > |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
OHH :-( ......... It's lifted ?? Lifting misaligns all the drive shafts
!! JVM "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163133204.536848.321340@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled > the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They > look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's > no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would > have been... > > Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. > > I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. > > After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly > mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's > service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. > > > > nrs wrote: >> Just another idea. Bent axle component? >> >> >> Justin M wrote: >> > Not the rear driveshaft, either. >> > >> > Wow. Uh... >> > >> > So... >> > >> > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >> > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >> > - Replaced passenger side u-joint >> > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints >> > - Replaced both front brake rotors >> > - Replaced trackbar >> > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >> > - Checked and double checked tie-rod >> > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >> > - Disconnected front driveshaft >> > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint >> > >> > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) >> > >> > >> > Justin M wrote: >> > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> > > >> > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> > > >> > > >> > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if >> > > > that >> > > > makes a difference. > |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
OHH :-( ......... It's lifted ?? Lifting misaligns all the drive shafts
!! JVM "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1163133204.536848.321340@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled > the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They > look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's > no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would > have been... > > Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. > > I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. > > After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly > mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's > service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. > > > > nrs wrote: >> Just another idea. Bent axle component? >> >> >> Justin M wrote: >> > Not the rear driveshaft, either. >> > >> > Wow. Uh... >> > >> > So... >> > >> > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires >> > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings >> > - Replaced passenger side u-joint >> > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints >> > - Replaced both front brake rotors >> > - Replaced trackbar >> > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear >> > - Checked and double checked tie-rod >> > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid >> > - Disconnected front driveshaft >> > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint >> > >> > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) >> > >> > >> > Justin M wrote: >> > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. >> > > >> > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. >> > > >> > > >> > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if >> > > > that >> > > > makes a difference. > |
Re: Front end vibration... still. :(
But lifting sure don't bend axles!
You sound like one of those dumber than posts dealer techs. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) "Johnny V. Mullins" wrote: > > OHH :-( ......... It's lifted ?? Lifting misaligns all the drive shafts > !! > > JVM > > "Justin M" <xtexatl@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1163133204.536848.321340@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > > I'm starting to think that's the only thing it could be. I've pulled > > the front axles, but not the rear (the Dana 44 is new to me). They > > look straight to me, and I've put a straight edge on them and there's > > no distortion. There are no visible weld spots where a weight would > > have been... > > > > Tonight I replaced the rear brake drums. Same thing. > > > > I'll pull the rear axles tomorrow to see if they're okay. > > > > After that, I'm out of options, and I've got to find a Jeep friendly > > mechanic in North Atlanta who will look at a lifted Jeep. The dealer's > > service department won't even talk to me because of the lift. > > > > > > > > nrs wrote: > >> Just another idea. Bent axle component? > >> > >> > >> Justin M wrote: > >> > Not the rear driveshaft, either. > >> > > >> > Wow. Uh... > >> > > >> > So... > >> > > >> > - Had three different places rebalance the wheels/tires > >> > - Replaced passenger side wheel bearings > >> > - Replaced passenger side u-joint > >> > - Replaced passenger side ball-joints > >> > - Replaced both front brake rotors > >> > - Replaced trackbar > >> > - Checked and double checked all bolts on the front end and rear > >> > - Checked and double checked tie-rod > >> > - Pulled and checked steering stabilizer, it's still solid > >> > - Disconnected front driveshaft > >> > - Disconnected rear driveshaft -- so it's not a driveshaft or u-joint > >> > > >> > I'm completely out of ideas now... :) > >> > > >> > > >> > Justin M wrote: > >> > > nope. no difference on the front drive shaft. > >> > > > >> > > rear drive shaft is next. sheesh. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I'm going to try disconnecting the front drive shaft and see if > >> > > > that > >> > > > makes a difference. > > |
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