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Ethan 09-20-2004 11:45 AM

Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
should I be looking?

Any help appreciated...

Thanks,
Ethan

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 12:19 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Hi Ethan,
The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ethan wrote:
>
> I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
> differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
> freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
> the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
> The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
> shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
> period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
> shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
> gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
> should I be looking?
>
> Any help appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Ethan


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 12:19 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Hi Ethan,
The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ethan wrote:
>
> I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
> differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
> freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
> the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
> The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
> shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
> period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
> shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
> gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
> should I be looking?
>
> Any help appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Ethan


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 12:19 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Hi Ethan,
The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ethan wrote:
>
> I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
> differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
> freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
> the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
> The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
> shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
> period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
> shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
> gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
> should I be looking?
>
> Any help appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
> Ethan


twaldron 09-20-2004 06:37 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Hi Ethan,
> The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
> and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
> problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
> absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ethan wrote:
>
>>I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
>>differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
>>freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
>>the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
>>The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
>>shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
>>period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
>>shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
>>gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
>>should I be looking?
>>
>>Any help appreciated...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ethan


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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 09-20-2004 06:37 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Hi Ethan,
> The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
> and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
> problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
> absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ethan wrote:
>
>>I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
>>differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
>>freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
>>the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
>>The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
>>shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
>>period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
>>shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
>>gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
>>should I be looking?
>>
>>Any help appreciated...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ethan


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 09-20-2004 06:37 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Hi Ethan,
> The lubrication will free up loose front joints like tie rod ends
> and ball joints enough, to let an out of balance wheel and/or alignment
> problem shimmy. But it won't shimmy unless the steering stabilizer shock
> absorber needs replacing, pictured at:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...odelId-1001406
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ethan wrote:
>
>>I had the fluid changed out of the transfer case, tranny and both
>>differentials on 89 4.2l Wrangler last week. When I drove it on the
>>freeway for the first time since the fluid swap, I notice a shudder in
>>the front-end when cruising at speeds in excess of 50 miles an hour.
>>The shudder is not consistent. If I lay off of the accelerator, the
>>shudder diminishes and disappears and I can accelerate again for a
>>period and then the shudder returns. It is a very hard shudder, almost
>>shaking the steering wheel out of my hands. Can this be related to the
>>gear box oil changes or is this just a coincidence and if so, where
>>should I be looking?
>>
>>Any help appreciated...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ethan


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
You should double shock the bouncy TJ coil springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
> with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
> the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
You should double shock the bouncy TJ coil springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
> with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
> the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-20-2004 06:42 PM

Re: Front-End Shudder at freeway speeds
 
You should double shock the bouncy TJ coil springs.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Bill, a tire(s) enough out of balance will shimmy the front end even
> with a brand new HD steering stabilizer...ask me how I know...replace
> the ss only _AFTER_ everything else has been fixed.



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