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HomeBrewer 11-13-2004 04:52 PM

freeze plug?
 
I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
the new one doesn't leak?
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



DougW 11-13-2004 05:13 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?


You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?

Gonna have to drain the block/radiator. Little square plug on the block
usually takes a square bit. Or you might be able to just drain the lower
radiator hose. If you wear contact lenses take them out. Antifreeze will
alter the lens chemically and could fuse it to your eye! (personal experience)

Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a screwdriver
up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in the hole,
then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new one just
takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a mallet.

Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.
http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...--OTC4603.HTML

If you look closely you can see it's nothing more than a tool you pound on to
rotate the plug and another (similar to a socket) that you use to pound in the
new one. Nothing like springing $60 for tools you don't actually need.

Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug but
that's not usually necessary.

This is a good read. http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/83818/

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 11-13-2004 05:13 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?


You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?

Gonna have to drain the block/radiator. Little square plug on the block
usually takes a square bit. Or you might be able to just drain the lower
radiator hose. If you wear contact lenses take them out. Antifreeze will
alter the lens chemically and could fuse it to your eye! (personal experience)

Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a screwdriver
up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in the hole,
then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new one just
takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a mallet.

Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.
http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...--OTC4603.HTML

If you look closely you can see it's nothing more than a tool you pound on to
rotate the plug and another (similar to a socket) that you use to pound in the
new one. Nothing like springing $60 for tools you don't actually need.

Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug but
that's not usually necessary.

This is a good read. http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/83818/

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



DougW 11-13-2004 05:13 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?


You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?

Gonna have to drain the block/radiator. Little square plug on the block
usually takes a square bit. Or you might be able to just drain the lower
radiator hose. If you wear contact lenses take them out. Antifreeze will
alter the lens chemically and could fuse it to your eye! (personal experience)

Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a screwdriver
up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in the hole,
then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new one just
takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a mallet.

Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.
http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...--OTC4603.HTML

If you look closely you can see it's nothing more than a tool you pound on to
rotate the plug and another (similar to a socket) that you use to pound in the
new one. Nothing like springing $60 for tools you don't actually need.

Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug but
that's not usually necessary.

This is a good read. http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techarticles/83818/

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!



Mike Romain 11-13-2004 07:46 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Is that in the 'new' engine?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-13-2004 07:46 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Is that in the 'new' engine?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-13-2004 07:46 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Is that in the 'new' engine?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:47 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Is that in the 'new' engine?

Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
from that one freeze plug.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:47 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Is that in the 'new' engine?

Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
from that one freeze plug.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:47 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Is that in the 'new' engine?

Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
from that one freeze plug.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:52 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
> Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?


50-50 mix new engine with only a few miles - they are all new - just one is
leaking.

> If you wear contact lenses take them out.


I don't, but good tip - ouch!

> Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a
> screwdriver
> up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in
> the hole,
> then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new
> one just
> takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a
> mallet.


Should I avoid poking a hole in it?

> Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.


I have enough silly tools that I'll never use again.

> Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug
> but
> that's not usually necessary.


I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:52 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
> Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?


50-50 mix new engine with only a few miles - they are all new - just one is
leaking.

> If you wear contact lenses take them out.


I don't, but good tip - ouch!

> Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a
> screwdriver
> up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in
> the hole,
> then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new
> one just
> takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a
> mallet.


Should I avoid poking a hole in it?

> Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.


I have enough silly tools that I'll never use again.

> Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug
> but
> that's not usually necessary.


I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 09:52 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You got it. Time to change out the casting plug (also called Welch plug).
> Also time to look at the others. How's your antifreeze level and mix?


50-50 mix new engine with only a few miles - they are all new - just one is
leaking.

> If you wear contact lenses take them out.


I don't, but good tip - ouch!

> Then it's time to get that plug out. You can get a tool just place a
> screwdriver
> up against one side and smack it with a hammer till the plug rotates in
> the hole,
> then grab it with some vice grips and pull it out. Putting in the new
> one just
> takes a socket about the same size as the plug and a few taps with a
> mallet.


Should I avoid poking a hole in it?

> Or you can spring big bucks for a silly tool.


I have enough silly tools that I'll never use again.

> Make sure the opening is clean. You can put a bit of sealant on the plug
> but
> that's not usually necessary.


I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
All in one Jeep



DougW 11-14-2004 10:14 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:

> Should I avoid poking a hole in it?


Doesn't matter. You just don't want the plug to fall
into the casting. Usually the screwdriver won't poke a hole
it will just cause the plug to rotate so you can grab it
with some vice grips.

> I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
> using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....


Some replace the plug with a coil and others simply bolt to the block.

--
DougW




DougW 11-14-2004 10:14 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:

> Should I avoid poking a hole in it?


Doesn't matter. You just don't want the plug to fall
into the casting. Usually the screwdriver won't poke a hole
it will just cause the plug to rotate so you can grab it
with some vice grips.

> I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
> using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....


Some replace the plug with a coil and others simply bolt to the block.

--
DougW




DougW 11-14-2004 10:14 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
HomeBrewer did pass the time by typing:

> Should I avoid poking a hole in it?


Doesn't matter. You just don't want the plug to fall
into the casting. Usually the screwdriver won't poke a hole
it will just cause the plug to rotate so you can grab it
with some vice grips.

> I installed a block heater once when I lived in ND, and I seem to remember
> using sealant on that, but I can't remembe taking out the plug....


Some replace the plug with a coil and others simply bolt to the block.

--
DougW




Mike Romain 11-14-2004 10:19 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
plugs are new?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Is that in the 'new' engine?

>
> Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
> hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
> from that one freeze plug.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-14-2004 10:19 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
plugs are new?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Is that in the 'new' engine?

>
> Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
> hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
> from that one freeze plug.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-14-2004 10:19 AM

Re: freeze plug?
 
You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
plugs are new?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Is that in the 'new' engine?

>
> Yes, that's why I'm holding my breath every time I look uder the thing,
> hoping I don't find a puddle of liquid. So far, just a little antifreeze
> from that one freeze plug.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2004 02:57 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
I drive the core plug straight in and forget it if I'm at the shop
where time is money, or push it in, rotate it and pull it, as Doug
suggested, when time is all I have. Then use a knife to scrape the paint
mark and seal remnants away. Then a little silicone not to seal but as a
lubricate on a brass plug, with a good sized shoulder, and a breaker
bar, where I can turn it into any position I need it to drive straight
in: http://www.----------.com/breakerbar.jpg and of course the BMFH.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2004 02:57 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
I drive the core plug straight in and forget it if I'm at the shop
where time is money, or push it in, rotate it and pull it, as Doug
suggested, when time is all I have. Then use a knife to scrape the paint
mark and seal remnants away. Then a little silicone not to seal but as a
lubricate on a brass plug, with a good sized shoulder, and a breaker
bar, where I can turn it into any position I need it to drive straight
in: http://www.----------.com/breakerbar.jpg and of course the BMFH.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-14-2004 02:57 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
I drive the core plug straight in and forget it if I'm at the shop
where time is money, or push it in, rotate it and pull it, as Doug
suggested, when time is all I have. Then use a knife to scrape the paint
mark and seal remnants away. Then a little silicone not to seal but as a
lubricate on a brass plug, with a good sized shoulder, and a breaker
bar, where I can turn it into any position I need it to drive straight
in: http://www.----------.com/breakerbar.jpg and of course the BMFH.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I almost had a heart attack when I crawled under the jeep this morning and
> found a little puddle of antifreeze. I couldn't spot the leak at first, then
> I took it out for a short drive, came home and crawled under there looking
> for it. I found a drip from one of the freeze plugs. How do I stop this
> leak? Do I need to change the plug? how do I remove the old one and ensure
> the new one doesn't leak?
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> All in one Jeep


HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 04:42 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> plugs are new?


Yes, they came in a kit
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 04:42 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> plugs are new?


Yes, they came in a kit
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 04:42 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> plugs are new?


Yes, they came in a kit
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



Mike Romain 11-14-2004 05:28 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
it.

You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
It is pricey.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> > plugs are new?

>
> Yes, they came in a kit
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-14-2004 05:28 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
it.

You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
It is pricey.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> > plugs are new?

>
> Yes, they came in a kit
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep


Mike Romain 11-14-2004 05:28 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
it.

You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
It is pricey.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
> > plugs are new?

>
> Yes, they came in a kit
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 76-81-85CJ7
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> All in one Jeep


HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 08:01 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...


No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
take it back to them.

> Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> it.

Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
in my new engine AND new radiator.

> You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> It is pricey


Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
mix?

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep

..
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
>> > plugs are new?

>>
>> Yes, they came in a kit
>> --
>> _____________________
>> HomeBrewer
>> 76-81-85CJ7
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>> All in one Jeep




HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 08:01 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...


No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
take it back to them.

> Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> it.

Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
in my new engine AND new radiator.

> You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> It is pricey


Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
mix?

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
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..
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
>> > plugs are new?

>>
>> Yes, they came in a kit
>> --
>> _____________________
>> HomeBrewer
>> 76-81-85CJ7
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>> All in one Jeep




HomeBrewer 11-14-2004 08:01 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...


No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
take it back to them.

> Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> it.

Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
in my new engine AND new radiator.

> You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> It is pricey


Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
mix?

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep

..
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> HomeBrewer wrote:
>>
>> > You say in another post, they all are new. Do you mean all the frost
>> > plugs are new?

>>
>> Yes, they came in a kit
>> --
>> _____________________
>> HomeBrewer
>> 76-81-85CJ7
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>> All in one Jeep




Mike Romain 11-14-2004 09:31 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> > the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

>
> No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
> take it back to them.
>
> > Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> > that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> > poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> > it.

> Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
> in my new engine AND new radiator.
>
> > You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> > all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> > It is pricey

>
> Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
> with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
> mix?
>
> --


Yes, normally that is how the really strong stuff is used. You put it
in long enough with water until the leak stops, let it sit for a certain
length of time, then flush the crap out of it.

Check engine rebuilders for it. It should have directions.....

I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
especially the ones you can't see.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 11-14-2004 09:31 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> > the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

>
> No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
> take it back to them.
>
> > Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> > that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> > poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> > it.

> Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
> in my new engine AND new radiator.
>
> > You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> > all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> > It is pricey

>
> Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
> with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
> mix?
>
> --


Yes, normally that is how the really strong stuff is used. You put it
in long enough with water until the leak stops, let it sit for a certain
length of time, then flush the crap out of it.

Check engine rebuilders for it. It should have directions.....

I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
especially the ones you can't see.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 11-14-2004 09:31 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > Was the engine professionally rebuilt? It doesn't sound like you put
> > the plugs in or the person that did didn't use much time cleaning it...

>
> No I didn't put them in - the rebuilder is in WV and I'm in FL, so I can't
> take it back to them.
>
> > Anyway before trying to remove it, I would go to the/a rebuilder and get
> > that 'super stop leak' crap they put in new engines to help cover for a
> > poor cleaning job. If the plugs seep this pellet is supposed to stop
> > it.

> Is it available at a normal parts store? I am hesitant about putting "gunk"
> in my new engine AND new radiator.
>
> > You will likely have to flush it out after so you might want to empty
> > all the antifreeze out first and save it so you don't waste the stuff.
> > It is pricey

>
> Flush after the stop leak is installed? So....drain the antifreeze, fill
> with water and use the gunk...let it set up, flush and refill with 50/50
> mix?
>
> --


Yes, normally that is how the really strong stuff is used. You put it
in long enough with water until the leak stops, let it sit for a certain
length of time, then flush the crap out of it.

Check engine rebuilders for it. It should have directions.....

I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
especially the ones you can't see.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer 11-15-2004 03:34 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
> did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
> especially the ones you can't see.


True! - I'll check around and see what I find.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-15-2004 03:34 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
> did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
> especially the ones you can't see.


True! - I'll check around and see what I find.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 11-15-2004 03:34 PM

Re: freeze plug?
 
> I also do not believe in using the crap on a 'new' engine, but if they
> did a crappy clean and fit on one plug, how good are the rest,
> especially the ones you can't see.


True! - I'll check around and see what I find.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep




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