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24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:00:21 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:0l0e9354glq421427ei154v1057m6ekqvp@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.


24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:00:37 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:q11e935ovesl8kjvqftll9i1035f8fbmpq@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:00:37 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:q11e935ovesl8kjvqftll9i1035f8fbmpq@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:00:37 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:q11e935ovesl8kjvqftll9i1035f8fbmpq@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:00:37 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:q11e935ovesl8kjvqftll9i1035f8fbmpq@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:12 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:f11e939c8p730m9tmddbe9rk97p7np7at7@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:12 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:f11e939c8p730m9tmddbe9rk97p7np7at7@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:12 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:f11e939c8p730m9tmddbe9rk97p7np7at7@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:12 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:f11e939c8p730m9tmddbe9rk97p7np7at7@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:25 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:ek0e93l2ck95n87eqjm2smv6tfjmlh6kb9@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:25 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:ek0e93l2ck95n87eqjm2smv6tfjmlh6kb9@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:25 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:ek0e93l2ck95n87eqjm2smv6tfjmlh6kb9@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:25 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:ek0e93l2ck95n87eqjm2smv6tfjmlh6kb9@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:rm0e93523rdd0ogrhncf9oacfc62ea5188@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:rm0e93523rdd0ogrhncf9oacfc62ea5188@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:rm0e93523rdd0ogrhncf9oacfc62ea5188@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:49 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:rm0e93523rdd0ogrhncf9oacfc62ea5188@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:551e93djjcnhnaov5vdpd6ope696rgb112@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:551e93djjcnhnaov5vdpd6ope696rgb112@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:551e93djjcnhnaov5vdpd6ope696rgb112@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

24BitŪ 07-13-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:02:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

>"24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylum.org> wrote in message
>news:551e93djjcnhnaov5vdpd6ope696rgb112@4ax.com.. .
>><Wrote nothing as usual.>

Speech patterns offer window into psychiatric disorders
It's a scene typical of daytime talk shows, America's showcase for
dysfunctional living. The woman who fell for her jailed pen pal is
talking at length with no obvious purpose. The host prods for details
of the romance, but every answer is exasperatingly vague. "I just love
him. He's so nice to me. I like to get his letters. I like to see the
mailman."

Shows like this might not seem intellectually stimulating, but listen
closely to those arguments, taunts and teary confessions and you might
hear a perfect illustration of a breakthrough in psychiatry. School of
Medicine researchers have discovered that people with certain
psychiatric disorders also have distinctive language patterns that
seem to reflect fundamental problems in thinking. The speakers use
vague words and usually meander through conversations as if unable to
focus on the main point.

These odd speech patterns, common on daytime talk shows, provide
direct evidence that many people with antisocial personality disorder
and somatization disorder (once called hysteria) also have imbalances
in the brain.

"Psychiatrists suspect these disorders are linked to brain chemistry,
but it hasn't been proven," said Carol North, M.D., an associate
professor of psychiatry and lead author of a paper in a recent issue
of Comprehensive Psychiatry. "This study is one of the first to link
the disorders to the functioning of the brain."

People with somatization disorder, almost always women, have
never-ending complaints -- ranging from vomiting to paralysis --that
can't be linked to physical illness. People with antisocial
personality disorder might lie, steal and commit vandalism in
childhood and progress to more serious offenses such as burglary and
dealing drugs. Both disorders also seem to encourage poor decisions in
friends, mates and lifestyles. A woman who marries a known wife-beater
may well have one of the disorders, North said.

One or both of these disorders afflict about 8 million Americans -- 3
percent of the population. Both tend to run in families, and men with
antisocial personality disorder often have female relatives with
somatization disorder and vice versa.

Researchers compared the speech of 15 men and women diagnosed with one
or both disorders with 10 men and women of similar ages and
backgrounds who worked at a medical clinic. All of the subjects were
interviewed about topics such as the weather and news of the day.
North played audiotapes of the interviews to psychiatrists who didn't
know the subjects or their mental-health status.

She trained the psychiatrists to keep score of different speech
patterns, including vagueness and meandering sentences. A subject
would earn "vague points" by saying something like "Clinton's a good
guy. He does good things." If asked about the weather, a meanderer
might mention his dog, his breakfast and his dentist before getting to
the humidity.

The scorekeepers were able to see many real-life examples of these
speech patterns before the study began. They all watched and listened
to daytime talk shows as part of their preparation.

Women in the study showed strong differences in speech. Those with
either antisocial disorder or somatization disorder were much more
likely to use vague or meandering language. These language patterns
were even more pronounced in women with both disorders.

The scorekeepers found no difference in speech patterns among the men
in the study, and there was a good reason why. The men in the control
group showed strong signs of antisocial personality disorder
themselves, and two out of the five were actually diagnosed. "We still
suspect that men with antisocial personality disorder do speak
differently than other men," North said.

Malfunctioning mind Researchers have long known that brain imbalances
can alter language. People with psychoses such as schizophrenia may
sound as though their sentences have been run through a blender. The
jumbled speech, sometimes called "word salad" at its most extreme,
clearly reflects problems with brain chemistry and thinking. North
believes vague, wandering speech also indicates a malfunctioning mind,
and she coined the term "nonpsychotic thought disorder" to describe
the distinct language patterns of people with antisocial personality
and somatization disorders. It is the first time that anyone has
formally linked unusual thought processes to nonpsychotic psychiatric
disorders.
"Dr. North has made a real contribution to the field," said Richard
Wetzel, Ph.D., professor of neurology, of neurological surgery and of
psychiatry and co-author of the study. "These are people who think
things through in ways that aren't very helpful to themselves or
society, and Dr. North has found a way to identify the kinds of
problems they have with their thinking."

North and Wetzel hope the recognition of distinct speech patterns will
help mental health specialists diagnose personality and somatization
disorders. Too many people with the disorders are either labeled
psychotic or aren't diagnosed at all, North said.

Paying attention to the speech of these people might even lead to
better treatment, she added.

nrs 07-14-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote:
> Every bolt is marked with the Ford logo because the manufactures
> guaranteed the parts, and Ford didn't want to buy Willys parts. Would you
> please take a good picture of one to replace mine:http://www.----------.com/fordWillyBolts.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184179641.135769.13700@z28g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I've got mine up for sale here:

>
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97250
>
>
>
> > At least the engine block, frame and body are original. Who knows
> > about the rest and there is really no way to know for sure.

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Let me see what I can do. May take a while though because the jeep is
far away from me at my parents' house.


nrs 07-14-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote:
> Every bolt is marked with the Ford logo because the manufactures
> guaranteed the parts, and Ford didn't want to buy Willys parts. Would you
> please take a good picture of one to replace mine:http://www.----------.com/fordWillyBolts.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184179641.135769.13700@z28g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I've got mine up for sale here:

>
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97250
>
>
>
> > At least the engine block, frame and body are original. Who knows
> > about the rest and there is really no way to know for sure.

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Let me see what I can do. May take a while though because the jeep is
far away from me at my parents' house.


nrs 07-14-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote:
> Every bolt is marked with the Ford logo because the manufactures
> guaranteed the parts, and Ford didn't want to buy Willys parts. Would you
> please take a good picture of one to replace mine:http://www.----------.com/fordWillyBolts.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184179641.135769.13700@z28g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I've got mine up for sale here:

>
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97250
>
>
>
> > At least the engine block, frame and body are original. Who knows
> > about the rest and there is really no way to know for sure.

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Let me see what I can do. May take a while though because the jeep is
far away from me at my parents' house.


nrs 07-14-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Jul 11, 4:59 pm, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBillHug...@------.net> wrote:
> Every bolt is marked with the Ford logo because the manufactures
> guaranteed the parts, and Ford didn't want to buy Willys parts. Would you
> please take a good picture of one to replace mine:http://www.----------.com/fordWillyBolts.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:LW------...@aol.com
>
> "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184179641.135769.13700@z28g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > I've got mine up for sale here:

>
> http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97250
>
>
>
> > At least the engine block, frame and body are original. Who knows
> > about the rest and there is really no way to know for sure.

>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Let me see what I can do. May take a while though because the jeep is
far away from me at my parents' house.


digitalmaster 07-16-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996A72747CE60xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> OK, a rebuild of a rebuild with who know how many 'if any'
>> original 1943 parts are left.....

>
> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!
>
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????



digitalmaster 07-16-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996A72747CE60xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> OK, a rebuild of a rebuild with who know how many 'if any'
>> original 1943 parts are left.....

>
> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!
>
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????



digitalmaster 07-16-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996A72747CE60xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> OK, a rebuild of a rebuild with who know how many 'if any'
>> original 1943 parts are left.....

>
> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!
>
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????



digitalmaster 07-16-2007 01:00 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 

"XS11E" <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:Xns996A72747CE60xs11emailinatorcom@69.28.173. 184...
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> OK, a rebuild of a rebuild with who know how many 'if any'
>> original 1943 parts are left.....

>
> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!
>
>
>
>
> --
> XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????



XS11E 07-16-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
"digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3
> pipes,and 2 flex joints.Looking at the part history you can see
> that the joints have been replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and
> Both flanges twice.However it still carries the same serial
> number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but could change
> out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


If you ask, they'll tell you they're "saving money". Of course your
time cost them triple the price of a new part but that's OK, it's from
a different budget. It's unbelievable how companies will waste money
shifting expenses so that some manager will look good.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-16-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
"digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3
> pipes,and 2 flex joints.Looking at the part history you can see
> that the joints have been replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and
> Both flanges twice.However it still carries the same serial
> number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but could change
> out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


If you ask, they'll tell you they're "saving money". Of course your
time cost them triple the price of a new part but that's OK, it's from
a different budget. It's unbelievable how companies will waste money
shifting expenses so that some manager will look good.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-16-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
"digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3
> pipes,and 2 flex joints.Looking at the part history you can see
> that the joints have been replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and
> Both flanges twice.However it still carries the same serial
> number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but could change
> out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


If you ask, they'll tell you they're "saving money". Of course your
time cost them triple the price of a new part but that's OK, it's from
a different budget. It's unbelievable how companies will waste money
shifting expenses so that some manager will look good.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 07-16-2007 03:10 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
"digitalmaster" <digitalmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3
> pipes,and 2 flex joints.Looking at the part history you can see
> that the joints have been replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and
> Both flanges twice.However it still carries the same serial
> number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but could change
> out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


If you ask, they'll tell you they're "saving money". Of course your
time cost them triple the price of a new part but that's OK, it's from
a different budget. It's unbelievable how companies will waste money
shifting expenses so that some manager will look good.


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

Lee Ayrton 07-16-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:

>> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
>> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
>> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!



> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
> joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
> replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
> carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
> could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
be the original aircraft.


--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.


Lee Ayrton 07-16-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:

>> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
>> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
>> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!



> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
> joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
> replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
> carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
> could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
be the original aircraft.


--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.


Lee Ayrton 07-16-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:

>> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
>> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
>> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!



> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
> joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
> replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
> carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
> could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
be the original aircraft.


--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.


Lee Ayrton 07-16-2007 03:41 PM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:

>> Like the old joke.. Honest, it's the EXACT SAME hatchet George
>> Washington used to cut down the cherry tree! We replace the handle 4
>> times and the head twice but it's the SAME HATCHET!



> reminds me of when I worked for a major airline.
> You get an assembly to repair.The assembly has 2 flanges,3 pipes,and 2 flex
> joints.Looking at the part history you can see that the joints have been
> replaced 3 times,Both pipes once,and Both flanges twice.However it still
> carries the same serial number.Curiously we could not assemble new parts,but
> could change out 100% of the old parts with new parts????????


That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
be the original aircraft.


--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.


Craig Scheiner 07-17-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:07 -0700, Lee Ayrton wrote
(in article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0707161539460.14963@panix3.panix.co m>):

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:


>
> That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
> plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
> be the original aircraft.
>
>
>


I'd like to do that with my body,

Craig


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Craig Scheiner 07-17-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:07 -0700, Lee Ayrton wrote
(in article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0707161539460.14963@panix3.panix.co m>):

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:


>
> That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
> plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
> be the original aircraft.
>
>
>


I'd like to do that with my body,

Craig


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Craig Scheiner 07-17-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Ford GPW Jeep with machine gun mount (1943)
 
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:41:07 -0700, Lee Ayrton wrote
(in article <Pine.NEB.4.64.0707161539460.14963@panix3.panix.co m>):

> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, digitalmaster wrote:


>
> That carries over into complete aircraft. You can obtain a vintage ID
> plate and build a complete aircraft around it, the FAA will consider it to
> be the original aircraft.
>
>
>


I'd like to do that with my body,

Craig


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