Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:4018BCB0.1050107@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> JeePenn wrote:
> > I have just replaced my 2000 Wrangler original stock bumper with a Warn
Rock
> > Crawler Bumper and I see this as an opportunity to also upgrade the
stock
> > fog lights. I am looking for some suggestions. From the homework that
I
> > have done, I have discovered that there are many brands and prices for
fog
> > lights. I am looking to use my existing wiring and I primarily use my
fog
> > lights for additional lighting when trail riding at night. Your advice
> > please. Thanks in advance.
>
> get some cheap "driving" lights, basically the same as fog lights (55w
> Halogen) but they throw way out in a trapezoid pattern instead of the
> diffuse short fog light pattern. Cheap means they can be replaced when a
> lens gets taken out by gravel.
>
> The $19.99 "Rally" driving lights I have get out a good 30 yards past my
> high beams. I went for cheap because I've thrown more than a few 80 to
> 100 dollar a pair Hella and KC fog lights in the trash because they wont
> sell replacement lenses, even a friend who runs a large autobody and
> custom paint shop couldn't get replacements. You crack a few of those
> and ---- starts getting expensive.
>
> Best part about them is they're not off-road lights so they there's no
> requirement to cover them, and they look just like fog lights. Of course
> you don't want to leave them on while passing someone, they're basically
> spot high beams. People will go apeshit flashing you with their high
> beams if you forget to turn them off... not that I've ever done that
> <cough>
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:4018BCB0.1050107@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> JeePenn wrote:
> > I have just replaced my 2000 Wrangler original stock bumper with a Warn
Rock
> > Crawler Bumper and I see this as an opportunity to also upgrade the
stock
> > fog lights. I am looking for some suggestions. From the homework that
I
> > have done, I have discovered that there are many brands and prices for
fog
> > lights. I am looking to use my existing wiring and I primarily use my
fog
> > lights for additional lighting when trail riding at night. Your advice
> > please. Thanks in advance.
>
> get some cheap "driving" lights, basically the same as fog lights (55w
> Halogen) but they throw way out in a trapezoid pattern instead of the
> diffuse short fog light pattern. Cheap means they can be replaced when a
> lens gets taken out by gravel.
>
> The $19.99 "Rally" driving lights I have get out a good 30 yards past my
> high beams. I went for cheap because I've thrown more than a few 80 to
> 100 dollar a pair Hella and KC fog lights in the trash because they wont
> sell replacement lenses, even a friend who runs a large autobody and
> custom paint shop couldn't get replacements. You crack a few of those
> and ---- starts getting expensive.
>
> Best part about them is they're not off-road lights so they there's no
> requirement to cover them, and they look just like fog lights. Of course
> you don't want to leave them on while passing someone, they're basically
> spot high beams. People will go apeshit flashing you with their high
> beams if you forget to turn them off... not that I've ever done that
> <cough>
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:4018BCB0.1050107@usefirstinitialandlastnameAT erols.com...
> JeePenn wrote:
> > I have just replaced my 2000 Wrangler original stock bumper with a Warn
Rock
> > Crawler Bumper and I see this as an opportunity to also upgrade the
stock
> > fog lights. I am looking for some suggestions. From the homework that
I
> > have done, I have discovered that there are many brands and prices for
fog
> > lights. I am looking to use my existing wiring and I primarily use my
fog
> > lights for additional lighting when trail riding at night. Your advice
> > please. Thanks in advance.
>
> get some cheap "driving" lights, basically the same as fog lights (55w
> Halogen) but they throw way out in a trapezoid pattern instead of the
> diffuse short fog light pattern. Cheap means they can be replaced when a
> lens gets taken out by gravel.
>
> The $19.99 "Rally" driving lights I have get out a good 30 yards past my
> high beams. I went for cheap because I've thrown more than a few 80 to
> 100 dollar a pair Hella and KC fog lights in the trash because they wont
> sell replacement lenses, even a friend who runs a large autobody and
> custom paint shop couldn't get replacements. You crack a few of those
> and ---- starts getting expensive.
>
> Best part about them is they're not off-road lights so they there's no
> requirement to cover them, and they look just like fog lights. Of course
> you don't want to leave them on while passing someone, they're basically
> spot high beams. People will go apeshit flashing you with their high
> beams if you forget to turn them off... not that I've ever done that
> <cough>
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

JeePenn wrote:
> Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
uncovered offroad lights ;)

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

JeePenn wrote:
> Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
uncovered offroad lights ;)

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

JeePenn wrote:
> Not a bad idea. At 55w, can I use my original wiring?

Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
uncovered offroad lights ;)

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

> Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
> win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
> uncovered offroad lights ;)

Or having 100w bulbs in his/her cheapo fogs/driving lights.

Snow ... "yes officer those 100w bulbs are only 55w's these cheap lights
would melt if they were actually 100w's"

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

> Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
> win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
> uncovered offroad lights ;)

Or having 100w bulbs in his/her cheapo fogs/driving lights.

Snow ... "yes officer those 100w bulbs are only 55w's these cheap lights
would melt if they were actually 100w's"

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

> Yep same wireing and mounting locations. As someone else put it, you'll
> win any highbeam war you get into short of the other guy having
> uncovered offroad lights ;)

Or having 100w bulbs in his/her cheapo fogs/driving lights.

Snow ... "yes officer those 100w bulbs are only 55w's these cheap lights
would melt if they were actually 100w's"

Re: Fog Light Advice Please
 

Where can I find instructions to 'couple' the high and low beams?

"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> For what its worth, in addition to my hellas (rectangular), I have a
> secondary constant duty relay that 'couples' the high beam filaments
> AND low beams filaments. With the relay switch ON when the high beams
> come on the low beams also stay on; when lows are on only the low beams
> are on - twice the light output!.
> With the switch off I get only high or low. Since the driving lights
> are coupled to the low bgeam circuit, I can have all three on -
> driving/low/high beams.
> With this intense light pattern and driving at high speed I can
> actually see the road far in front of me and close to the vehicle.
>
> With this set up you have to be extra careful not to blind oncoming
> traffic. It may be illegal, but Ive been doing this for the past 30
> yrs. without hassle nor heating/cooking any OEM wiring.
> With the addition of the hellas, I can light the 'world' - just enough
> to see the Middle Atlantic and New England potholes that show up during
> the freeze-thaw cycle each year. Nothing beats the hell out of your
> suspension as hitting a huge pothole at 70+ mph ... with my headlight
> lighting control system (knock on wood) I can see to avoid these.
>
> (Of course I can win any headlight war - as it seems New Englanders are
> especially inconsiderate with high beam headlights. I also run halogen
> back-up lights (inserts in the OEM backups) with a relay to light up
> the backup lights when some inconsiderate ass is trying to sunburn the
> back of my neck or is 'drafting' 3 inches under my spare tire)
>
> In article <4018BCB0.1050107@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerol s.com>,
> Simon Juncal <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote:
>
> > JeePenn wrote:
> > > I have just replaced my 2000 Wrangler original stock bumper with a
Warn Rock
> > > Crawler Bumper and I see this as an opportunity to also upgrade the
stock
> > > fog lights. I am looking for some suggestions. From the homework
that I
> > > have done, I have discovered that there are many brands and prices for
fog
> > > lights. I am looking to use my existing wiring and I primarily use my
fog
> > > lights for additional lighting when trail riding at night. Your
advice
> > > please. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > get some cheap "driving" lights, basically the same as fog lights (55w
> > Halogen) but they throw way out in a trapezoid pattern instead of the
> > diffuse short fog light pattern. Cheap means they can be replaced when a
> > lens gets taken out by gravel.
> >
> > The $19.99 "Rally" driving lights I have get out a good 30 yards past my
> > high beams. I went for cheap because I've thrown more than a few 80 to
> > 100 dollar a pair Hella and KC fog lights in the trash because they wont
> > sell replacement lenses, even a friend who runs a large autobody and
> > custom paint shop couldn't get replacements. You crack a few of those
> > and ---- starts getting expensive.
> >
> > Best part about them is they're not off-road lights so they there's no
> > requirement to cover them, and they look just like fog lights. Of course
> > you don't want to leave them on while passing someone, they're basically
> > spot high beams. People will go apeshit flashing you with their high
> > beams if you forget to turn them off... not that I've ever done that
> > <cough>