Fixing exhaust lead
The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have erroded the mating surfaces. Does this sound reasonable? Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners are used to hold both manifolds in place. Thanks |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
On 15 mar, 08:59, "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? > > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > Thanks Any advice would be appreciated. I´m sure some of you have dealt with this before. Thanks |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
On 15 mar, 08:59, "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? > > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > Thanks Any advice would be appreciated. I´m sure some of you have dealt with this before. Thanks |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
On 15 mar, 08:59, "nrs" <neale...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? > > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > Thanks Any advice would be appreciated. I´m sure some of you have dealt with this before. Thanks |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
nrs wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult just time consuming. > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking at a nice set of headers. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
nrs wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult just time consuming. > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking at a nice set of headers. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
nrs wrote:
> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an > exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how > long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he > said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put > in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal > properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and > mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have > erroded the mating surfaces. > > Does this sound reasonable? Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult just time consuming. > Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at > the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the fasterners > are used to hold both manifolds in place. This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking at a nice set of headers. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
DougW wrote:
> nrs wrote: >> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an >> exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how >> long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he >> said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put >> in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal >> properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and >> mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have >> erroded the mating surfaces. >> >> Does this sound reasonable? > > Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal > or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal > type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and > exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket > so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary > I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block er.. head checked.. like I need mine checked for calling the head a block. guess I'm a block head. > checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult > just time consuming. > >> Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at >> the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the >> fasterners are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone > washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking > at a nice set of headers. |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
DougW wrote:
> nrs wrote: >> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an >> exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how >> long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he >> said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put >> in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal >> properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and >> mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have >> erroded the mating surfaces. >> >> Does this sound reasonable? > > Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal > or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal > type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and > exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket > so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary > I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block er.. head checked.. like I need mine checked for calling the head a block. guess I'm a block head. > checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult > just time consuming. > >> Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at >> the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the >> fasterners are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone > washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking > at a nice set of headers. |
Re: Fixing exhaust lead
DougW wrote:
> nrs wrote: >> The rearmost stud is broken on my 2.5 4cyl (95 YJ) and it has an >> exhaust leak. It was this way when I bought it so I have no idea how >> long it has gone like this. Yesterday I took it to a mechanic and he >> said that he could just remove the manifolds and broken stud and put >> in a new gasket but that there is only a 50% chance it will seal >> properly. He said the sure fix is to mill the exhaust manifold and >> mating surface on the head, stating that the exhaust leak could have >> erroded the mating surfaces. >> >> Does this sound reasonable? > > Depends on how much damage has occurred. It might be minimal > or something that can be taken up with one of the better ringseal > type gaskets and some permatex copper. milling the head and > exhaust manifold is much more expensive than re-doing the gasket > so I'd probably try the gasket first. Then if it was necissary > I'd get an aftermarket set of headers for it and have the block er.. head checked.. like I need mine checked for calling the head a block. guess I'm a block head. > checked. Checking the block for erosion isn't too difficult > just time consuming. > >> Also, would the intake manifold also have to be milled to keep it at >> the same thickness? I worry about this because some of the >> fasterners are used to hold both manifolds in place. > > This is an issue. Minor differences should be taken up by the cone > washers but yes, if they mill too much. That's why I suggest looking > at a nice set of headers. |
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