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XS11E 08-16-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Failed!
 
XS11E <xs11e@mailinator.com> wrote:

> I'll get a new one tomorrow and take the old one apart if possible
> to see what's gone bad.


Got new cap, ran through test again, passed fine.

I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded with
lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting air in to
the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter thingy around the
cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a cap every year?

Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know when
they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so back???



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DougW 08-16-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Failed!
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> I'll get a new one tomorrow and take the old one apart if possible
>> to see what's gone bad.

>
> Got new cap, ran through test again, passed fine.
>
> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded with
> lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting air in to
> the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter thingy around the
> cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a cap every year?
>
> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know when
> they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so back???


They used to do emissions around here, but gave up on those and vehicle
inspections. :/ You should see some of the turdmobiles running around.

As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should be fine.
The cap is doing what it should, letting some air in as the tank empties
yet sealing and making any excess pressure go into the engine (or the
evaporative canister when the engine is off). Over time the rubber gets
less flexible.

I'd keep the new cap in a baggie for the next emissions test.

The problem with some aftermarket locking type caps is they seal too well
and will cause enough vac in the tank to affect fuel pressure.

--
DougW



DougW 08-16-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Failed!
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> I'll get a new one tomorrow and take the old one apart if possible
>> to see what's gone bad.

>
> Got new cap, ran through test again, passed fine.
>
> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded with
> lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting air in to
> the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter thingy around the
> cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a cap every year?
>
> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know when
> they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so back???


They used to do emissions around here, but gave up on those and vehicle
inspections. :/ You should see some of the turdmobiles running around.

As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should be fine.
The cap is doing what it should, letting some air in as the tank empties
yet sealing and making any excess pressure go into the engine (or the
evaporative canister when the engine is off). Over time the rubber gets
less flexible.

I'd keep the new cap in a baggie for the next emissions test.

The problem with some aftermarket locking type caps is they seal too well
and will cause enough vac in the tank to affect fuel pressure.

--
DougW



DougW 08-16-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Failed!
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> I'll get a new one tomorrow and take the old one apart if possible
>> to see what's gone bad.

>
> Got new cap, ran through test again, passed fine.
>
> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded with
> lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting air in to
> the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter thingy around the
> cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a cap every year?
>
> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know when
> they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so back???


They used to do emissions around here, but gave up on those and vehicle
inspections. :/ You should see some of the turdmobiles running around.

As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should be fine.
The cap is doing what it should, letting some air in as the tank empties
yet sealing and making any excess pressure go into the engine (or the
evaporative canister when the engine is off). Over time the rubber gets
less flexible.

I'd keep the new cap in a baggie for the next emissions test.

The problem with some aftermarket locking type caps is they seal too well
and will cause enough vac in the tank to affect fuel pressure.

--
DougW



DougW 08-16-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Failed!
 
XS11E wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> I'll get a new one tomorrow and take the old one apart if possible
>> to see what's gone bad.

>
> Got new cap, ran through test again, passed fine.
>
> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded with
> lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting air in to
> the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter thingy around the
> cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a cap every year?
>
> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know when
> they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so back???


They used to do emissions around here, but gave up on those and vehicle
inspections. :/ You should see some of the turdmobiles running around.

As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should be fine.
The cap is doing what it should, letting some air in as the tank empties
yet sealing and making any excess pressure go into the engine (or the
evaporative canister when the engine is off). Over time the rubber gets
less flexible.

I'd keep the new cap in a baggie for the next emissions test.

The problem with some aftermarket locking type caps is they seal too well
and will cause enough vac in the tank to affect fuel pressure.

--
DougW



XS11E 08-17-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Failed!
 
"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
>> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded
>> with lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting
>> air in to the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter
>> thingy around the cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a
>> cap every year?
>>
>> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know
>> when they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so
>> back???


> As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should
> be fine.


Errr.... read the above carefully! Note where I said, "I did take the
old cap apart"? Note where I said, "I put the old cap back together"?
Can't find that, can you? <BSEG>

The spring sproings parts out faster than these arthritic hands can
grab them! I did get it back together but I'm not sure it's right and
it still won't hold pressure so it's still got crud in it or it's mis-
assembled or it's being DELIBERATELY ANNOYING!

Probably all three. Next year, I'll buy a new cap, put it on for the
test and then switch when I leave the emission station but you don't
know how bad I feel knowing I'd be allowing gasoline vapor into the
atmosphere and hastening the destruction of Life, the Universe and
Everything by .03 msec.....


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XS11E 08-17-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Failed!
 
"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
>> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded
>> with lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting
>> air in to the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter
>> thingy around the cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a
>> cap every year?
>>
>> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know
>> when they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so
>> back???


> As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should
> be fine.


Errr.... read the above carefully! Note where I said, "I did take the
old cap apart"? Note where I said, "I put the old cap back together"?
Can't find that, can you? <BSEG>

The spring sproings parts out faster than these arthritic hands can
grab them! I did get it back together but I'm not sure it's right and
it still won't hold pressure so it's still got crud in it or it's mis-
assembled or it's being DELIBERATELY ANNOYING!

Probably all three. Next year, I'll buy a new cap, put it on for the
test and then switch when I leave the emission station but you don't
know how bad I feel knowing I'd be allowing gasoline vapor into the
atmosphere and hastening the destruction of Life, the Universe and
Everything by .03 msec.....


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XS11E 08-17-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Failed!
 
"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
>> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded
>> with lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting
>> air in to the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter
>> thingy around the cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a
>> cap every year?
>>
>> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know
>> when they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so
>> back???


> As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should
> be fine.


Errr.... read the above carefully! Note where I said, "I did take the
old cap apart"? Note where I said, "I put the old cap back together"?
Can't find that, can you? <BSEG>

The spring sproings parts out faster than these arthritic hands can
grab them! I did get it back together but I'm not sure it's right and
it still won't hold pressure so it's still got crud in it or it's mis-
assembled or it's being DELIBERATELY ANNOYING!

Probably all three. Next year, I'll buy a new cap, put it on for the
test and then switch when I leave the emission station but you don't
know how bad I feel knowing I'd be allowing gasoline vapor into the
atmosphere and hastening the destruction of Life, the Universe and
Everything by .03 msec.....


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XS11E 08-17-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Failed!
 
"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> I did take the old cap apart, it wasn't hard to do. The little
>> neoprene seal button (I don't know what to call it?) was loaded
>> with lint, grit, etc. I guess it sucked all that in when letting
>> air in to the tank as it emptied? Maybe some kind of a filter
>> thingy around the cap would help or maybe I'll just have to buy a
>> cap every year?
>>
>> Problem is that the 1993 cap was good until 2006 but I don't know
>> when they started testing caps, may have been just a year or so
>> back???


> As to your cap. Yep, just clean the crud out of it and it should
> be fine.


Errr.... read the above carefully! Note where I said, "I did take the
old cap apart"? Note where I said, "I put the old cap back together"?
Can't find that, can you? <BSEG>

The spring sproings parts out faster than these arthritic hands can
grab them! I did get it back together but I'm not sure it's right and
it still won't hold pressure so it's still got crud in it or it's mis-
assembled or it's being DELIBERATELY ANNOYING!

Probably all three. Next year, I'll buy a new cap, put it on for the
test and then switch when I leave the emission station but you don't
know how bad I feel knowing I'd be allowing gasoline vapor into the
atmosphere and hastening the destruction of Life, the Universe and
Everything by .03 msec.....


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Satin Fairbush 08-17-2007 12:52 AM

Re: Failed!
 
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:40:38 -0700, L.W. (Llew Wu Sue) ------ II wrote:


> I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
> man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
> I know of?????



Oh, Bill, I would dare say anyone that knows anything whatsoever about you
would believe 24Bit in an instant.

And of course, the fact that "fools' names, like fools' faces, often
appear in public places" doesn't help your credibility any either.

Really.



\Satin/
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