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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-24-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
signature in the log book.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
>
> As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
>
> I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> snoop.
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> wrote:
>
> > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> >
> > :^)
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > >Doug,
> > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > >
> > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > >>> inspections.. :)
> > >>
> > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > >> vehicles.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> DougW
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
> --
> Will Honea


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-24-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
signature in the log book.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
>
> As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
>
> I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> snoop.
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> wrote:
>
> > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> >
> > :^)
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > >Doug,
> > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > >
> > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > >>> inspections.. :)
> > >>
> > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > >> vehicles.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> DougW
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
> --
> Will Honea


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-24-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
signature in the log book.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
>
> As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
>
> I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> snoop.
>
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> wrote:
>
> > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> >
> > :^)
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > >Doug,
> > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > >
> > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > >>> inspections.. :)
> > >>
> > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > >> vehicles.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> DougW
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
> --
> Will Honea


Will Honea 01-25-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:40:31 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
> part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
> signature in the log book.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> > human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
> >
> > As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> > Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> > I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> > twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> > MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> > in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> > rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> > Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> > statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
> >
> > I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> > a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> > late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> > bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> > snoop.
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> > >
> > > :^)
> > >
> > > Claude
> > >
> > > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > > >Doug,
> > > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > > >
> > > >Ben
> > > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > > >
> > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > > >>> inspections.. :)
> > > >>
> > > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > > >> etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > > >> vehicles.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> DougW
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > Will Honea



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 01-25-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:40:31 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
> part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
> signature in the log book.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> > human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
> >
> > As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> > Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> > I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> > twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> > MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> > in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> > rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> > Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> > statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
> >
> > I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> > a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> > late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> > bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> > snoop.
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> > >
> > > :^)
> > >
> > > Claude
> > >
> > > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > > >Doug,
> > > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > > >
> > > >Ben
> > > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > > >
> > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > > >>> inspections.. :)
> > > >>
> > > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > > >> etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > > >> vehicles.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> DougW
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > Will Honea



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 01-25-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:40:31 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The trucker starts everyday by checking the tires and brakes, as
> part of his safety check, then swears to that inspection with his
> signature in the log book.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
> >
> > Colorado just struck back at that one - upped the fine for discarding
> > human waste on the right of way to something like $500.
> >
> > As for the safety inspection, I have mixed emotions. When I was a
> > Cadet here, I would help my future FIL do inspections in his gargage.
> > I came to the conclusion that inspecting tires and such once (even
> > twice) a year really didn't make much difference - needs to be done
> > MUCH more often than that to be effective - say, every time you get
> > in?? Same thing for brakes - they would wait until inspection time
> > rather than keeping on top of it on a continuing basis. Since
> > Colorado dropped the safety inspections something like 30 years ago
> > statistics provided by the state pretty well back up the move.
> >
> > I could see a one-time requirement for a new registration - start with
> > a clean slate on an unknown vehicle - but it's usually too little, too
> > late after that. The Colorado troopers are pretty good about stopping
> > bad tires and obvious defects - gives them a good excuse to sniff and
> > snoop.
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:47:22 UTC claudel@bolt.sonic.net (claudel)
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You can have crap falling off your vehicle here in Nevada too
> > > as long as it'll pass the smog test...
> > >
> > > :^)
> > >
> > > Claude
> > >
> > > In article <EsDId.3207$Ah.1520@fe40.usenetserver.com>,
> > > Ben <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote:
> > > >Doug,
> > > > I have to agree with you there... Too many idiots driving crap with
> > > >stuff falling off it here in South Carolina...
> > > >
> > > >Ben
> > > >95 YJ 2.5L
> > > >
> > > >"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > >news:p9DId.3593$8Q.3011@okepread06...
> > > >> Ben did pass the time by typing:
> > > >>> Smog Test?? What is that?? LOL
> > > >>> I love living in a state where we don't have Smog Tests... Or even
> > > >>> inspections.. :)
> > > >>
> > > >> No smog tests or inspections in Oklahoma anymore.
> > > >> I really wish they would bring back inspections. Far too many
> > > >> morons out there with excessively low tires, bald tires, broken lamps,
> > > >> etc.
> > > >>
> > > >> I swear the average driver these days is incapable of maintaining their
> > > >> vehicles.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> DougW
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > --
> > Will Honea



--
Will Honea

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 05:23 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
guess that was forty years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
> a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 05:23 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
guess that was forty years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
> a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 05:23 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
guess that was forty years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
> a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


Jerry Bransford 01-25-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.

Jerry

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
> think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
> guess that was forty years ago.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
>>a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 01-25-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.

Jerry

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
> think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
> guess that was forty years ago.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
>>a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 01-25-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.

Jerry

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I wonder if the pilots of a 747 still walk around their plane. I
> think I remember actor Dean Martin's character doing that, although I
> guess that was forty years ago.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>Same thing with A/C. I'm always amazed at the ones who discover that
>>a tire is completely flat - AFTER they back out of the driveway!


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 07:57 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Thank you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
> to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
> because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
> spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
> aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.
>
> Jerry


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 07:57 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Thank you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
> to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
> because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
> spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
> aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.
>
> Jerry


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-25-2005 07:57 PM

Re: Engine Swaps vs Smog Laws
 
Thank you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You bet they do, or at least the co-pilot does if the pilot asks him
> to... but the PIC (pilot-in-command) is supposed to do his own preflight
> because it's his ass if something goes wrong that could have been
> spotted with a preflight. I know as a pilot that I would never fly an
> aircraft without having personally first preflighted it.
>
> Jerry



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