Engine code 41 remedy?
Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need anything expensive. -Jonathan |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Fault Code 41
Synopsis Description: Alternator field control circuit open or shorted Power loss light: Off Limp-in mode: None Possible Causes Bad connection or wiring - Check the wiring and connections between the logic module and the power module. Clean and regrease any corroded connectors with dielectric grease and repair any shorts. Bad voltage regulator circuit - See Diagnosing Your Charging System Diagnostic Method Trigger Parameters - Near 0V or near 12V not detected when the field coil driver is turned on or off, respectively Results If Component Fails Fault code 41 is stored. If the condition persists, it will eventually result in a fault code 46 or 47. "Pond Scum" <jhue@sonic.net> wrote in message news:449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > > Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > anything expensive. > > -Jonathan |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Fault Code 41
Synopsis Description: Alternator field control circuit open or shorted Power loss light: Off Limp-in mode: None Possible Causes Bad connection or wiring - Check the wiring and connections between the logic module and the power module. Clean and regrease any corroded connectors with dielectric grease and repair any shorts. Bad voltage regulator circuit - See Diagnosing Your Charging System Diagnostic Method Trigger Parameters - Near 0V or near 12V not detected when the field coil driver is turned on or off, respectively Results If Component Fails Fault code 41 is stored. If the condition persists, it will eventually result in a fault code 46 or 47. "Pond Scum" <jhue@sonic.net> wrote in message news:449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > > Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > anything expensive. > > -Jonathan |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Fault Code 41
Synopsis Description: Alternator field control circuit open or shorted Power loss light: Off Limp-in mode: None Possible Causes Bad connection or wiring - Check the wiring and connections between the logic module and the power module. Clean and regrease any corroded connectors with dielectric grease and repair any shorts. Bad voltage regulator circuit - See Diagnosing Your Charging System Diagnostic Method Trigger Parameters - Near 0V or near 12V not detected when the field coil driver is turned on or off, respectively Results If Component Fails Fault code 41 is stored. If the condition persists, it will eventually result in a fault code 46 or 47. "Pond Scum" <jhue@sonic.net> wrote in message news:449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > > Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > anything expensive. > > -Jonathan |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: # #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need #anything expensive. # Is this the original alternator? /herb |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: # #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need #anything expensive. # Is this the original alternator? /herb |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: # #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need #anything expensive. # Is this the original alternator? /herb |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Herb Leong proclaimed:
> In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: > # > #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > #anything expensive. > # > > Is this the original alternator? Dunno about the 93 but on the later ZJ, the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, it is the engine control computer. If the 93 is the same, there is a way to check quickly, but you need to pull the control wire and I would be hesitant to go thru the details unless you have a factory manual or like the smell of magic smoke. First make sure you have a fully charged battery and the cables to the alternator are squeaky clean, shiny, no corrosion, and tight. Also make sure the connection to the body right near the battery is squeaky clean and tight. IF your 93 is the same as the 95, the way the PCM controls the alternator voltage is by applying and removing a ground to one of the fields. Your diagnostic code indicates [among other things] that the PCM is having difficulty pulling that field down to ground. There are a number of reasons for this including a blown PCM, but it is just as often krappy krysler wire that even Lucas would be ashamed of. I wouldn't suggest trying to ground the field yourself without the aid of a FSM diagram and perhaps a buddy familiar with power electrics and definitely pull the PCM wire. A local shop might be willing to see if they can tell the difference, if it is the PCM, junkyards work as does eBay. The alternator isn't that expensive either. |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Herb Leong proclaimed:
> In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: > # > #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > #anything expensive. > # > > Is this the original alternator? Dunno about the 93 but on the later ZJ, the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, it is the engine control computer. If the 93 is the same, there is a way to check quickly, but you need to pull the control wire and I would be hesitant to go thru the details unless you have a factory manual or like the smell of magic smoke. First make sure you have a fully charged battery and the cables to the alternator are squeaky clean, shiny, no corrosion, and tight. Also make sure the connection to the body right near the battery is squeaky clean and tight. IF your 93 is the same as the 95, the way the PCM controls the alternator voltage is by applying and removing a ground to one of the fields. Your diagnostic code indicates [among other things] that the PCM is having difficulty pulling that field down to ground. There are a number of reasons for this including a blown PCM, but it is just as often krappy krysler wire that even Lucas would be ashamed of. I wouldn't suggest trying to ground the field yourself without the aid of a FSM diagram and perhaps a buddy familiar with power electrics and definitely pull the PCM wire. A local shop might be willing to see if they can tell the difference, if it is the PCM, junkyards work as does eBay. The alternator isn't that expensive either. |
Re: Engine code 41 remedy?
Herb Leong proclaimed:
> In article <449af419$0$65451$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, > Pond Scum <jhue@sonic.net> wrote: > # > #Anyone know what the most common fix for engine code 41 is ('93 ZJ)? My > #alternator is not putting out any output. Is it typically more than just > #replacing the alternator? I'm trying to get this vehicle running so I can > #give it away to a relative, so I'm hoping it doesn't turn out to need > #anything expensive. > # > > Is this the original alternator? Dunno about the 93 but on the later ZJ, the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, it is the engine control computer. If the 93 is the same, there is a way to check quickly, but you need to pull the control wire and I would be hesitant to go thru the details unless you have a factory manual or like the smell of magic smoke. First make sure you have a fully charged battery and the cables to the alternator are squeaky clean, shiny, no corrosion, and tight. Also make sure the connection to the body right near the battery is squeaky clean and tight. IF your 93 is the same as the 95, the way the PCM controls the alternator voltage is by applying and removing a ground to one of the fields. Your diagnostic code indicates [among other things] that the PCM is having difficulty pulling that field down to ground. There are a number of reasons for this including a blown PCM, but it is just as often krappy krysler wire that even Lucas would be ashamed of. I wouldn't suggest trying to ground the field yourself without the aid of a FSM diagram and perhaps a buddy familiar with power electrics and definitely pull the PCM wire. A local shop might be willing to see if they can tell the difference, if it is the PCM, junkyards work as does eBay. The alternator isn't that expensive either. |
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