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travis 10-20-2003 05:38 PM

electrical gremlins
 
Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

c 10-20-2003 06:09 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


Travis,

I'm sure some of the other guys can tell you where they normally are, but I
will just add this ahead of time. Make sure you have a engine to body
ground, as well as a body to frame ground. I had a problem of some
electrical things acting funny on a truck I restified. The radio being one
of them. The weird thing is that the radio would quit as soon as I put the
truck in park. It ended up being a bad ground (actually the lack of), but
when I put the truck in gear the engine and transmission would ground to the
body through the shifter cable. The only way we found it is we were
adjusting the cable and when I put the truck in gear, my friend noticed that
the cable actually sparked underneath the truck.

Chris



c 10-20-2003 06:09 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


Travis,

I'm sure some of the other guys can tell you where they normally are, but I
will just add this ahead of time. Make sure you have a engine to body
ground, as well as a body to frame ground. I had a problem of some
electrical things acting funny on a truck I restified. The radio being one
of them. The weird thing is that the radio would quit as soon as I put the
truck in park. It ended up being a bad ground (actually the lack of), but
when I put the truck in gear the engine and transmission would ground to the
body through the shifter cable. The only way we found it is we were
adjusting the cable and when I put the truck in gear, my friend noticed that
the cable actually sparked underneath the truck.

Chris



c 10-20-2003 06:09 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!


Travis,

I'm sure some of the other guys can tell you where they normally are, but I
will just add this ahead of time. Make sure you have a engine to body
ground, as well as a body to frame ground. I had a problem of some
electrical things acting funny on a truck I restified. The radio being one
of them. The weird thing is that the radio would quit as soon as I put the
truck in park. It ended up being a bad ground (actually the lack of), but
when I put the truck in gear the engine and transmission would ground to the
body through the shifter cable. The only way we found it is we were
adjusting the cable and when I put the truck in gear, my friend noticed that
the cable actually sparked underneath the truck.

Chris



KurtS 10-20-2003 06:15 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
I don't what model/year you are talking about but my CJ has one from a
threaded stud on the center of the firewall to the headbolt closest to the
firewall on the carb side of the head. Mine was ready to crumble so I just
bought a battery cable and ran it to one of the bolts on head behind the
alternator. Figured it would do the same thing there and it's easier to get
to.

> From: travis <travist34removethis@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400
> Subject: electrical gremlins
>
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



KurtS 10-20-2003 06:15 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
I don't what model/year you are talking about but my CJ has one from a
threaded stud on the center of the firewall to the headbolt closest to the
firewall on the carb side of the head. Mine was ready to crumble so I just
bought a battery cable and ran it to one of the bolts on head behind the
alternator. Figured it would do the same thing there and it's easier to get
to.

> From: travis <travist34removethis@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400
> Subject: electrical gremlins
>
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



KurtS 10-20-2003 06:15 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
I don't what model/year you are talking about but my CJ has one from a
threaded stud on the center of the firewall to the headbolt closest to the
firewall on the carb side of the head. Mine was ready to crumble so I just
bought a battery cable and ran it to one of the bolts on head behind the
alternator. Figured it would do the same thing there and it's easier to get
to.

> From: travis <travist34removethis@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:38:02 -0400
> Subject: electrical gremlins
>
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



CRWLR 10-20-2003 06:19 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
The motor itself can be a problem. The fill up with dirt and gunk over the
years, and need to be cleaned out. Try running the wipers while the engine
is off, and listen for any telltale signs of what is going on inside the
motor.

Having said that, I recently removed my taillamps and sunk them into the
body as a flush mount project. While working on them, I connected the stop
and running lights, but not the ground. Not only did the lights not work
right, but the radio came on when I shifted into Reverse. So, grounding can
cause very strange symptoms.






"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



CRWLR 10-20-2003 06:19 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
The motor itself can be a problem. The fill up with dirt and gunk over the
years, and need to be cleaned out. Try running the wipers while the engine
is off, and listen for any telltale signs of what is going on inside the
motor.

Having said that, I recently removed my taillamps and sunk them into the
body as a flush mount project. While working on them, I connected the stop
and running lights, but not the ground. Not only did the lights not work
right, but the radio came on when I shifted into Reverse. So, grounding can
cause very strange symptoms.






"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!



CRWLR 10-20-2003 06:19 PM

Re: electrical gremlins
 
The motor itself can be a problem. The fill up with dirt and gunk over the
years, and need to be cleaned out. Try running the wipers while the engine
is off, and listen for any telltale signs of what is going on inside the
motor.

Having said that, I recently removed my taillamps and sunk them into the
body as a flush mount project. While working on them, I connected the stop
and running lights, but not the ground. Not only did the lights not work
right, but the radio came on when I shifted into Reverse. So, grounding can
cause very strange symptoms.






"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i7l8pv0dut676vkj81q8geb625kta87s25@4ax.com...
> Hi y'all. I'm trying to get some electrical problems sorted out on my
> Jeep that I just bought. I'm making progress, but I'm not finished
> yet. I had the windshield wipers working earlier today, but I just
> ran to the store to get a hose clamp to use to mount my tachometer to
> the steering column and while I was out I noticed my wipers weren't
> working again. That was on the trip to the store. On the trip back
> home I tried the wipers again and they worked... I had a problem like
> that on a different car where the radio sometimes wouldn't work until
> I completely turned the car off and started it back up again. Someone
> mentioned I may have a bad ground strap between the engine and
> firewall I think... I just looked and I don't see one. Could anyone
> tell me exactly where to be looking for this ground strap, or give me
> other ideas about what to look for? Thank you.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




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