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Re: EGR or NOT?
I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into
the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for all their problems. Had to say it. Steve G. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:40E26D80.AB5ADD7@cox.net... > Well mine does, just like the old fresh air gulp valve I've got old > broken off drill stuck in the vacuum hose to plug it so it just looks > like it's connected. The vacuum port starts from the manifold port below > the idle jets, to the thermo valve: > http://www.----------.com/vacValve.jpg though the decel valve: > http://www.----------.com/decelValve.jpg that's controlled from the > venturi port up near the choke of the Ford two barrel: > http://www.----------.com/fordEGR.jpg Looks like they're run under full > vacuum at AMC too: > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/wago.../egr_i6_v8.png > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > bllsht wrote: > > > > Never seen EGR cause a backfire on decel. EGR doesn't even work on decel. I'd > > be more suspicious of the air injection system. |
Re: EGR or NOT?
Hey, I know it takes oxygen and unburned fuel to backfire, I was
just telling you what happenes when the Exhaust Gases Recirculation valve is hooked up. It only backfires once at a time when I suddenly release the throttle at speeds above eighty miles an hour. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Steve G wrote: > > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. |
Re: EGR or NOT?
Hey, I know it takes oxygen and unburned fuel to backfire, I was
just telling you what happenes when the Exhaust Gases Recirculation valve is hooked up. It only backfires once at a time when I suddenly release the throttle at speeds above eighty miles an hour. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Steve G wrote: > > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. |
Re: EGR or NOT?
Hey, I know it takes oxygen and unburned fuel to backfire, I was
just telling you what happenes when the Exhaust Gases Recirculation valve is hooked up. It only backfires once at a time when I suddenly release the throttle at speeds above eighty miles an hour. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Steve G wrote: > > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. |
Re: EGR or NOT?
Hey, I know it takes oxygen and unburned fuel to backfire, I was
just telling you what happenes when the Exhaust Gases Recirculation valve is hooked up. It only backfires once at a time when I suddenly release the throttle at speeds above eighty miles an hour. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Steve G wrote: > > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. |
Re: EGR or NOT?
SO should I get the ERG or nonERG intake? What kinds of things will I have
to mess with if I get the ERG intake? Will I have to tap into the exhaust tube and run a line to the intake? -- _____________ HomeBrewer 85CJ7 99XJ Remove the xxx to reply! "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:IoJEc.952842$oR5.920553@pd7tw3no... > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40E26D80.AB5ADD7@cox.net... > > Well mine does, just like the old fresh air gulp valve I've got old > > broken off drill stuck in the vacuum hose to plug it so it just looks > > like it's connected. The vacuum port starts from the manifold port below > > the idle jets, to the thermo valve: > > http://www.----------.com/vacValve.jpg though the decel valve: > > http://www.----------.com/decelValve.jpg that's controlled from the > > venturi port up near the choke of the Ford two barrel: > > http://www.----------.com/fordEGR.jpg Looks like they're run under full > > vacuum at AMC too: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/wago.../egr_i6_v8.png > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > > > bllsht wrote: > > > > > > Never seen EGR cause a backfire on decel. EGR doesn't even work on > decel. I'd > > > be more suspicious of the air injection system. > > |
Re: EGR or NOT?
SO should I get the ERG or nonERG intake? What kinds of things will I have
to mess with if I get the ERG intake? Will I have to tap into the exhaust tube and run a line to the intake? -- _____________ HomeBrewer 85CJ7 99XJ Remove the xxx to reply! "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:IoJEc.952842$oR5.920553@pd7tw3no... > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40E26D80.AB5ADD7@cox.net... > > Well mine does, just like the old fresh air gulp valve I've got old > > broken off drill stuck in the vacuum hose to plug it so it just looks > > like it's connected. The vacuum port starts from the manifold port below > > the idle jets, to the thermo valve: > > http://www.----------.com/vacValve.jpg though the decel valve: > > http://www.----------.com/decelValve.jpg that's controlled from the > > venturi port up near the choke of the Ford two barrel: > > http://www.----------.com/fordEGR.jpg Looks like they're run under full > > vacuum at AMC too: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/wago.../egr_i6_v8.png > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > > > bllsht wrote: > > > > > > Never seen EGR cause a backfire on decel. EGR doesn't even work on > decel. I'd > > > be more suspicious of the air injection system. > > |
Re: EGR or NOT?
SO should I get the ERG or nonERG intake? What kinds of things will I have
to mess with if I get the ERG intake? Will I have to tap into the exhaust tube and run a line to the intake? -- _____________ HomeBrewer 85CJ7 99XJ Remove the xxx to reply! "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:IoJEc.952842$oR5.920553@pd7tw3no... > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40E26D80.AB5ADD7@cox.net... > > Well mine does, just like the old fresh air gulp valve I've got old > > broken off drill stuck in the vacuum hose to plug it so it just looks > > like it's connected. The vacuum port starts from the manifold port below > > the idle jets, to the thermo valve: > > http://www.----------.com/vacValve.jpg though the decel valve: > > http://www.----------.com/decelValve.jpg that's controlled from the > > venturi port up near the choke of the Ford two barrel: > > http://www.----------.com/fordEGR.jpg Looks like they're run under full > > vacuum at AMC too: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/wago.../egr_i6_v8.png > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > > > bllsht wrote: > > > > > > Never seen EGR cause a backfire on decel. EGR doesn't even work on > decel. I'd > > > be more suspicious of the air injection system. > > |
Re: EGR or NOT?
SO should I get the ERG or nonERG intake? What kinds of things will I have
to mess with if I get the ERG intake? Will I have to tap into the exhaust tube and run a line to the intake? -- _____________ HomeBrewer 85CJ7 99XJ Remove the xxx to reply! "Steve G" <NospamforSteve@Steve-Garner.com> wrote in message news:IoJEc.952842$oR5.920553@pd7tw3no... > I don't care what you plugged or didn't plug, introducing exhaust gas into > the intake is not going to make it backfire. That is an AIR problem. The > fact that you prolly disconnected everything in sight that wasn't found on a > 1957 Ford, including the AIR sytem, when you disconnected the EGR would > explain why the backfire stopped when you disconnected the EGR. Replace the > diverter valve and reconnect everything and I think you'll find the backfire > disappears. The properly operating EGR also allows the ignition timing to > be run further advanced without severe engine ping, a huge advantage. So > many people yank everything they deem non-essential (or discreetly plug > them) then wonder why the engine pings like a bitch when timed to spec, or > ends up not able to advance ahead of spec without the ping, sees no > improvement in performance or economy, then curses those "eco-nazi's" for > all their problems. > Had to say it. > Steve G. > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:40E26D80.AB5ADD7@cox.net... > > Well mine does, just like the old fresh air gulp valve I've got old > > broken off drill stuck in the vacuum hose to plug it so it just looks > > like it's connected. The vacuum port starts from the manifold port below > > the idle jets, to the thermo valve: > > http://www.----------.com/vacValve.jpg though the decel valve: > > http://www.----------.com/decelValve.jpg that's controlled from the > > venturi port up near the choke of the Ford two barrel: > > http://www.----------.com/fordEGR.jpg Looks like they're run under full > > vacuum at AMC too: > > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/wago.../egr_i6_v8.png > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > > > bllsht wrote: > > > > > > Never seen EGR cause a backfire on decel. EGR doesn't even work on > decel. I'd > > > be more suspicious of the air injection system. > > |
Re: EGR or NOT?
I'd buy the EGR manifold and plug the cross over and make or buy
plate to cover for a sanitary look. The reason, it'll be easier to sell. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ HomeBrewer wrote: > > SO should I get the ERG or nonERG intake? What kinds of things will I have > to mess with if I get the ERG intake? Will I have to tap into the exhaust > tube and run a line to the intake? > > -- > _____________ > HomeBrewer > 85CJ7 99XJ > Remove the xxx to reply! |
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