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Eric 06-05-2004 09:48 PM

Dynomax disaster
 
Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.

I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.

What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
shops doing the work):

1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.

2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.

I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!

Eric
99 TJ SE



Mike Romain 06-06-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
I gave up doing exhaust work years ago. LOL! I take it to the 'pro's
and let them do the cussing.

You need the right tail pipe.

You can just put the muffler on now and hang it with a coat hanger or
something until the tail pipe comes in.

Watch where it is pointing though. The exhaust will burn stuff if
blasting on it.

Your tail pipe has to exit the rear of the vehicle. of not, the tire
will grab the gasses and vortex them into the cab.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Mike Romain 06-06-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
I gave up doing exhaust work years ago. LOL! I take it to the 'pro's
and let them do the cussing.

You need the right tail pipe.

You can just put the muffler on now and hang it with a coat hanger or
something until the tail pipe comes in.

Watch where it is pointing though. The exhaust will burn stuff if
blasting on it.

Your tail pipe has to exit the rear of the vehicle. of not, the tire
will grab the gasses and vortex them into the cab.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Mike Romain 06-06-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
I gave up doing exhaust work years ago. LOL! I take it to the 'pro's
and let them do the cussing.

You need the right tail pipe.

You can just put the muffler on now and hang it with a coat hanger or
something until the tail pipe comes in.

Watch where it is pointing though. The exhaust will burn stuff if
blasting on it.

Your tail pipe has to exit the rear of the vehicle. of not, the tire
will grab the gasses and vortex them into the cab.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Mike Romain 06-06-2004 10:35 AM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
I gave up doing exhaust work years ago. LOL! I take it to the 'pro's
and let them do the cussing.

You need the right tail pipe.

You can just put the muffler on now and hang it with a coat hanger or
something until the tail pipe comes in.

Watch where it is pointing though. The exhaust will burn stuff if
blasting on it.

Your tail pipe has to exit the rear of the vehicle. of not, the tire
will grab the gasses and vortex them into the cab.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-06-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
It can be "turbo" by design, an oval, 2 1/2" inlet and outlet that
fits the 1960 turbocharged Corvair. They do a good job of muffling
considering they're only fourteen inches long.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-06-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
It can be "turbo" by design, an oval, 2 1/2" inlet and outlet that
fits the 1960 turbocharged Corvair. They do a good job of muffling
considering they're only fourteen inches long.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-06-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
It can be "turbo" by design, an oval, 2 1/2" inlet and outlet that
fits the 1960 turbocharged Corvair. They do a good job of muffling
considering they're only fourteen inches long.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 06-06-2004 01:39 PM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
It can be "turbo" by design, an oval, 2 1/2" inlet and outlet that
fits the 1960 turbocharged Corvair. They do a good job of muffling
considering they're only fourteen inches long.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Eric wrote:
>
> Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my new
> Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything, let
> alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my old
> stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is as I
> have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots of
> pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing later I
> get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
>
> I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this setup
> was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the case
> with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next to
> the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost angled
> out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on pickups
> all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The pipe
> would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
>
> What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve exhaust
> shops doing the work):
>
> 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go back
> to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
>
> 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about 15 -
> 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
>
> I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They ensured
> me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this? Any
> thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next few
> months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE


Eric 06-06-2004 04:11 PM

Re: Dynomax disaster
 
I have the tail pipe, and it's on. I took the hitch off for now, but will
need it again soon...

Eric
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40C32BB7.8517FC71@sympatico.ca...
> I gave up doing exhaust work years ago. LOL! I take it to the 'pro's
> and let them do the cussing.
>
> You need the right tail pipe.
>
> You can just put the muffler on now and hang it with a coat hanger or
> something until the tail pipe comes in.
>
> Watch where it is pointing though. The exhaust will burn stuff if
> blasting on it.
>
> Your tail pipe has to exit the rear of the vehicle. of not, the tire
> will grab the gasses and vortex them into the cab.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
> >
> > Ok, maybe it wasn't a disaster, but it is frustrating no less. I get my

new
> > Dynomax "super turbo" (how the heck can a muffler be "super" anything,

let
> > alone "turbo".. sheesh.. marketing.. ANYHOW) and proceed to rip out my

old
> > stock exhaust. At this point I'm realizing what a pain this really is

as I
> > have nothing to cut the tail pipe with. I end up disconnecting the rear
> > shock to get it out of the way and get the axle to droop further. Lots

of
> > pushing, pulling, banging, destroying of stock hangers, and cussing

later I
> > get it out. Here's where it gets interesting.
> >
> > I SPECIFICALLY asked the sales guy at Quadratec whether or not this

setup
> > was compatible with a trailer hitch. I know that Borla and a few other
> > companies specify their models are not. He insisted that was not the

case
> > with the Dynomax setup I was buying. So, I lay the new tail pipe next

to
> > the stock setup and it looks like the tip flairs out a bit. Almost

angled
> > out at a 45 degree angle exiting from the back (I see that setup on

pickups
> > all the time around San Antonio). At this point I've mangled the stock
> > system so much I couldn't put it back in if I wanted to. That and I was
> > hoping my eyeballing of the tailpipe was off. Well, it wasn't. The

pipe
> > would not go in with the hitch receiver in place. I had to take it off.
> >
> > What do I do now? I called Quadratec, but management won't be in until
> > Monday. The only solutions I can come up with are (and both involve

exhaust
> > shops doing the work):
> >
> > 1. Cut the tip off completely (and a lot of pipe). Would have to go

back
> > to just behind the rear axle since I'd lose the rear-most hanger.
> >
> > 2. Have the pipe bent so it would fit. It would have to be bent about

15 -
> > 20 degrees or so, and the tip would still have to be trimmed.
> >
> > I'm frustrated because I need that hitch and told them that. They

ensured
> > me it would fit and it doesn't. What is their responsibility in this?

Any
> > thoughts? I will be getting a new rear bumper/tire carrier in the next

few
> > months and I'm sure it'll have a built in receiver, but I don't want to
> > count on that purchase right now. Thanks guys!
> >
> > Eric
> > 99 TJ SE





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