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HomeBrewer 11-07-2004 02:31 PM

Drive shaft questions
 
I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new project,
so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular u-joint.
Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft? Can I use
my old one and get it lengthened?

Thanks
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2004 03:15 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Go ahead and make one with constant velocity universal joints, old
rear wheel drive Cadillacs used them with almost no angle difference.
Ford and GM used them in all the applications.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new project,
> so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular u-joint.
> Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft? Can I use
> my old one and get it lengthened?
>
> Thanks
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2004 03:15 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Go ahead and make one with constant velocity universal joints, old
rear wheel drive Cadillacs used them with almost no angle difference.
Ford and GM used them in all the applications.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new project,
> so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular u-joint.
> Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft? Can I use
> my old one and get it lengthened?
>
> Thanks
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/


Jeff Strickland 11-07-2004 05:46 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.

I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the tcase
to the yoke, and he took it from there.






"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
>
> Thanks
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>
>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-07-2004 05:46 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.

I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the tcase
to the yoke, and he took it from there.






"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
>
> Thanks
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>
>
>




HomeBrewer 11-07-2004 08:14 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
>I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
>
> I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the tcase
> to the yoke, and he took it from there.


From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer case
to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
degrees.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
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>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
>>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
>>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
>>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> _____________________
>> HomeBrewer
>> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>

>
>




HomeBrewer 11-07-2004 08:14 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
>I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
>
> I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the tcase
> to the yoke, and he took it from there.


From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer case
to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
degrees.

--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
85CJ7 (in Progress)
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
99XJ Sport
Remove the xxx to reply!

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
>>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
>>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
>>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> _____________________
>> HomeBrewer
>> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
>> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>

>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2004 08:47 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Not if you buy a Real Jeep type driveshaft:
http://www.4xshaft.com/rubicon/p%20RUBICON_YOKE.jpg and not the puny
slip yoke conversion.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2004 08:47 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Not if you buy a Real Jeep type driveshaft:
http://www.4xshaft.com/rubicon/p%20RUBICON_YOKE.jpg and not the puny
slip yoke conversion.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >


Jeff Strickland 11-08-2004 01:52 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old one
and bolted up the new one.

Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
year.

You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.




"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> >
> > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the

tcase
> > to the yoke, and he took it from there.

>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer

case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a

regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made

shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Jeff Strickland 11-08-2004 01:52 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old one
and bolted up the new one.

Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
year.

You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.




"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> >
> > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the

tcase
> > to the yoke, and he took it from there.

>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer

case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a

regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made

shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




William Oliveri 11-08-2004 04:20 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.

Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/


Bill




"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old

one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any

modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my

particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the

> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.

> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer

> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp

14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate

10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a

> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made

> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




William Oliveri 11-08-2004 04:20 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.

Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/


Bill




"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old

one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any

modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my

particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the

> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.

> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer

> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp

14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate

10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a

> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made

> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Steve 11-08-2004 04:23 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Hi Jeff,

Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.


Steve 11-08-2004 04:23 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Hi Jeff,

Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org


Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.


jeff 11-08-2004 04:43 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at the
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any

modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the

double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my

particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.




jeff 11-08-2004 04:43 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at the
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.

"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any

modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the

double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my

particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.




Jeff Strickland 11-08-2004 05:14 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2va6c8F2idnorU1@uni-berlin.de...
> For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
> installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
> The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
>
> Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
> create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
> transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
>



I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.

I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.



Jeff Strickland 11-08-2004 05:14 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2va6c8F2idnorU1@uni-berlin.de...
> For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
> installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
> The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
>
> Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
> create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
> transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
>



I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.

I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2004 06:25 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Centerlines to be parallel, when not using a constant velocity
universal joint: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
>
> I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2004 06:25 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Centerlines to be parallel, when not using a constant velocity
universal joint: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
>
> I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.


HomeBrewer 12-07-2004 11:00 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I'm installing a t176 soon and will need new driveshafts. My rear pinion is
pointing slightly under the t-case output at the moment, but might change
with the new tranny. Either way, I'm going to get a tom woods ds made.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



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HomeBrewer 12-07-2004 11:00 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I'm installing a t176 soon and will need new driveshafts. My rear pinion is
pointing slightly under the t-case output at the moment, but might change
with the new tranny. Either way, I'm going to get a tom woods ds made.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



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HomeBrewer 12-07-2004 11:00 PM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
I'm installing a t176 soon and will need new driveshafts. My rear pinion is
pointing slightly under the t-case output at the moment, but might change
with the new tranny. Either way, I'm going to get a tom woods ds made.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



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HomeBrewer 12-30-2004 10:24 AM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Tom Woods recommended that I get the double cardan and point the pinion on
the rear end just below the transfer case ( I have a HEFTY traction bar that
keeps the rear from wrapping under acceleration). I will have to change the
output yoke on the dana 300. They sell the required yoke for $60. The booted
driveshaft was $329 and Until Dec 31st they have a 10% off deal going. They
custom made the drive shaft with 1310 u joints at the dana 300 end and 1350
u joints at the rear pinion so I would not need the "bastard" u joint
anymore. Now I just need the 176 shifter fixed and the dana 300s seals
replaced and I can put it all together.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



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_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 12-30-2004 10:24 AM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Tom Woods recommended that I get the double cardan and point the pinion on
the rear end just below the transfer case ( I have a HEFTY traction bar that
keeps the rear from wrapping under acceleration). I will have to change the
output yoke on the dana 300. They sell the required yoke for $60. The booted
driveshaft was $329 and Until Dec 31st they have a 10% off deal going. They
custom made the drive shaft with 1310 u joints at the dana 300 end and 1350
u joints at the rear pinion so I would not need the "bastard" u joint
anymore. Now I just need the 176 shifter fixed and the dana 300s seals
replaced and I can put it all together.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep



HomeBrewer 12-30-2004 10:24 AM

Re: Drive shaft questions
 
Tom Woods recommended that I get the double cardan and point the pinion on
the rear end just below the transfer case ( I have a HEFTY traction bar that
keeps the rear from wrapping under acceleration). I will have to change the
output yoke on the dana 300. They sell the required yoke for $60. The booted
driveshaft was $329 and Until Dec 31st they have a 10% off deal going. They
custom made the drive shaft with 1310 u joints at the dana 300 end and 1350
u joints at the rear pinion so I would not need the "bastard" u joint
anymore. Now I just need the 176 shifter fixed and the dana 300s seals
replaced and I can put it all together.

> With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at
> the
> T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
> the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
> quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
> off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
> stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
> vibration.



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_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
All in one Jeep




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