Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? Yes
Apparently you condone the actions of your resident Goggleologist with his rants, raves, lies, crossposting, derogatory remarks toward the people in the group, and other Idiosyncratic behavior he performs daily to elevate his preposterous and absurd ego. He is an absolute Psychopath by definition, which even a laymen can ascertain just by reading some of the excerpts that have been posted by others to this group. Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be cured Norman Doidge National Post What, other than our wish that it be otherwise, makes us think that every human vice is treatable by some form of psychotherapy? That this wish is not just naive, but, at times, harmful is illustrated by a recent Canadian study on group treatment for 238 --- offenders (rapists, incest offenders) from Warkworth penitentiary in Ontario. These prisoners included some well-documented psychopaths. All were taught to "empathize" with victims, and understand their "offence cycle" as part of treatment. After their release, it was found that those who had scored highest in terms of "good treatment behaviour" and who had the highest "empathy" scores were the more likely to reoffend on release into the community. Hannibal Lecter Charm School teaches good manners, but not morals. The important study by Seto and Barbaree replicated -- unintentionally -- a 1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed in Britain, shows the same. It may be that all psychopaths learn, in our new ersatz empathy institutes, is how to manipulate better by appearing more caring. But should we be surprised at the duplicity, since such treatments are generally mandated? And are such mandated treatments really psychotherapy? Just because a self-described "patient" is in a room with a self-described "therapist" doesn't mean psychotherapy is going on. Freud argued psychopaths are untreatable in psychotherapy precisely because having a conscience is a prerequisite for being able to use psychotherapy. It is the conscience, and the related capacity for concern for others, that drives the serious scrutiny of one's motives, which underlie one's behaviour. Yet psychopaths lack conscience and concern by definition. But these new psychopath-friendly treatments focus only superficially on motives or matters of good faith by tracking attendance and overt co-operativeness. Mostly they focus on impulse control and teaching new behaviours and mindsets. Past naive, they hope that because a psychopath can appear remorseful, or change his behaviour at any given moment, his overall mindset or deeper intentions will follow suit. Three cheers for us: We have invented treatments based on theories that are less complex than the impoverished minds of psychopaths. Psychotherapy doesn't just require a good theory and an astute clinician. It also requires a patient. The word patient comes from Latin, and means "to suffer." A patient, by definition, is bothered by something. Yet most treatments of prisoners originate not from the prisoner's suffering, but are mandated by the justice system. Corrections Canada knows many psychopaths will be released into the community eventually, so it attempts to change them, even though any psychotherapy for adults that has to be mandated is suspect. The "treatment" reported on in the Canadian study lasted 300 sessions. To their credit, the treaters didn't believe they could work their miracles overnight. Yet, more and more, mandated treatments are short-term: eight to 10 sessions. Most people can't quit smoking in eight to 10 sessions, never mind do a Karla Homolka make over. I refer here to the same Karla Homolka who expressed concern for her boyfriend's happiness by helping him kill her sister and a number of other young girls, and who is reported recently to have benefited from a self-esteem course in prison. Such courses, which presume self-esteem can be taught, generally involve telling a person she can raise her esteem in her own eyes by interrupting their self-reproaches or "negative tapes" in her head. Applying these self-esteem techniques to psychopaths requires an ability to get everything about the psychotherapeutic enterprise backwards. Psychopaths don't need lessons in clearing their consciences; if anything, it is they who ought to be teaching the rest of mankind how to be remorseless. But mushy-gushy therapy is not just confined to therapists. It is part of a dangerous denial of the nature of psychopathy and evil that is sweeping through our correctional services. A recent federal task force on security, released on Nov. 2, advised getting rid of guards with guns, unseemly razor-wire fences and intimidating towers around prisons (National Post, Dec. 15). It even advised that inmates should carry the keys to their own cells so they could make "responsible choices." "Restorative justice" based on "a culture of respect" would be practised. So here is a respectful way of framing things. Psychopaths constitute 1% of the population, but are so talented they conduct 50% of all crimes. Since it might be hurtful to say they are incurable, let's just say they are beyond therapy. That much said, surprising as it sounds, not all --- offenders are psychopaths; some, who have been involved in incest, apparently have low rates of reoffending. Some may benefit, at times, from long-term intensive interventions and monitoring. But there is no empirical evidence that --- offenders who are psychopaths benefit from treatment. The federal report is a miscarriage of justice, and a miscarriage of mercy. It is based on a distortion of religious notions of forgiveness, political notions of equality, a scientific zeal and an unwillingness to make basic distinctions. In ancient times, Aristotle made those distinctions, and developed a hierarchy of virtue and vice. At the top of the ladder is the virtuous person, who only aims toward good things; he is not "conflicted," as we would say, because there is no war between virtue and vice in his soul. Next, comes the continent person, who behaves well, but is always a bit tense because he is struggling, albeit successfully, to control his vices. Then comes the incontinent person, who knows what is right, but who frequently slips up, failing in his struggle. At the bottom of the hierarchy is the brute -- our psychopath. Like the virtuous person, he, too, is not at war with himself, is not "conflicted." Unlike the virtuous person, it is vice, and not virtue, that rules. Aristotle thought there was something different in the physical makeup of such people. Indeed, recent brain scan evidence shows some psychopaths do have altered brain structure and functioning. Our mistake (based on mindless extrapolations of our notion of political equality) is to collapse all these distinctions into the continent or incontinent categories. Indeed, we are as irked by notions of the virtuous as we are of the vicious. |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? Yes
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body, Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out! Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court. When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a man?????????? People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a hundred eighty out from any Capricorn. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!! Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo. You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as you suggest!!!!! If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department. I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said contradicts it's self. YOU NEED HELP! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message news:gu79c3dgpnto504q73lr253nu23094n2e7@4ax.com... > > > Apparently you condone the actions of your resident Goggleologist > with his rants, raves, lies, crossposting, derogatory remarks toward > the people in the group, and other Idiosyncratic behavior he performs > daily to elevate his preposterous and absurd ego. > He is an absolute Psychopath by definition, which even a laymen can > ascertain just by reading some of the excerpts that have been posted > by others to this group. > > > Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be cured > Norman Doidge > National Post > What, other than our wish that it be otherwise, makes us think that > every human vice is treatable by some form of psychotherapy? > > That this wish is not just naive, but, at times, harmful is > illustrated by a recent Canadian study on group treatment for 238 --- > offenders (rapists, incest offenders) from Warkworth penitentiary in > Ontario. These prisoners included some well-documented psychopaths. > All were taught to "empathize" with victims, and understand their > "offence cycle" as part of treatment. After their release, it was > found that those who had scored highest in terms of "good treatment > behaviour" and who had the highest "empathy" scores were the more > likely to reoffend on release into the community. Hannibal Lecter > Charm School teaches good manners, but not morals. > > The important study by Seto and Barbaree replicated -- unintentionally > -- a 1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more > than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed > in Britain, shows the same. It may be that all psychopaths learn, in > our new ersatz empathy institutes, is how to manipulate better by > appearing more caring. But should we be surprised at the duplicity, > since such treatments are generally mandated? And are such mandated > treatments really psychotherapy? > > Just because a self-described "patient" is in a room with a > self-described "therapist" doesn't mean psychotherapy is going on. > Freud argued psychopaths are untreatable in psychotherapy precisely > because having a conscience is a prerequisite for being able to use > psychotherapy. It is the conscience, and the related capacity for > concern for others, that drives the serious scrutiny of one's motives, > which underlie one's behaviour. Yet psychopaths lack conscience and > concern by definition. > > But these new psychopath-friendly treatments focus only superficially > on motives or matters of good faith by tracking attendance and overt > co-operativeness. Mostly they focus on impulse control and teaching > new behaviours and mindsets. Past naive, they hope that because a > psychopath can appear remorseful, or change his behaviour at any given > moment, his overall mindset or deeper intentions will follow suit. > Three cheers for us: We have invented treatments based on theories > that are less complex than the impoverished minds of psychopaths. > > Psychotherapy doesn't just require a good theory and an astute > clinician. It also requires a patient. The word patient comes from > Latin, and means "to suffer." A patient, by definition, is bothered by > something. Yet most treatments of prisoners originate not from the > prisoner's suffering, but are mandated by the justice system. > Corrections Canada knows many psychopaths will be released into the > community eventually, so it attempts to change them, even though any > psychotherapy for adults that has to be mandated is suspect. > > The "treatment" reported on in the Canadian study lasted 300 sessions. > To their credit, the treaters didn't believe they could work their > miracles overnight. Yet, more and more, mandated treatments are > short-term: eight to 10 sessions. Most people can't quit smoking in > eight to 10 sessions, never mind do a Karla Homolka make over. > > I refer here to the same Karla Homolka who expressed concern for her > boyfriend's happiness by helping him kill her sister and a number of > other young girls, and who is reported recently to have benefited from > a self-esteem course in prison. Such courses, which presume > self-esteem can be taught, generally involve telling a person she can > raise her esteem in her own eyes by interrupting their self-reproaches > or "negative tapes" in her head. > > Applying these self-esteem techniques to psychopaths requires an > ability to get everything about the psychotherapeutic enterprise > backwards. Psychopaths don't need lessons in clearing their > consciences; if anything, it is they who ought to be teaching the rest > of mankind how to be remorseless. > > But mushy-gushy therapy is not just confined to therapists. It is part > of a dangerous denial of the nature of psychopathy and evil that is > sweeping through our correctional services. A recent federal task > force on security, released on Nov. 2, advised getting rid of guards > with guns, unseemly razor-wire fences and intimidating towers around > prisons (National Post, Dec. 15). It even advised that inmates should > carry the keys to their own cells so they could make "responsible > choices." "Restorative justice" based on "a culture of respect" would > be practised. > > So here is a respectful way of framing things. Psychopaths constitute > 1% of the population, but are so talented they conduct 50% of all > crimes. Since it might be hurtful to say they are incurable, let's > just say they are beyond therapy. > > That much said, surprising as it sounds, not all --- offenders are > psychopaths; some, who have been involved in incest, apparently have > low rates of reoffending. Some may benefit, at times, from long-term > intensive interventions and monitoring. But there is no empirical > evidence that --- offenders who are psychopaths benefit from > treatment. > > The federal report is a miscarriage of justice, and a miscarriage of > mercy. It is based on a distortion of religious notions of > forgiveness, political notions of equality, a scientific zeal and an > unwillingness to make basic distinctions. > > In ancient times, Aristotle made those distinctions, and developed a > hierarchy of virtue and vice. At the top of the ladder is the virtuous > person, who only aims toward good things; he is not "conflicted," as > we would say, because there is no war between virtue and vice in his > soul. Next, comes the continent person, who behaves well, but is > always a bit tense because he is struggling, albeit successfully, to > control his vices. Then comes the incontinent person, who knows what > is right, but who frequently slips up, failing in his struggle. At the > bottom of the hierarchy is the brute -- our psychopath. Like the > virtuous person, he, too, is not at war with himself, is not > "conflicted." Unlike the virtuous person, it is vice, and not virtue, > that rules. Aristotle thought there was something different in the > physical makeup of such people. Indeed, recent brain scan evidence > shows some psychopaths do have altered brain structure and > functioning. Our mistake (based on mindless extrapolations of our > notion of political equality) is to collapse all these distinctions > into the continent or incontinent categories. Indeed, we are as irked > by notions of the virtuous as we are of the vicious. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? Yes
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body, Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out! Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court. When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a man?????????? People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a hundred eighty out from any Capricorn. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!! Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo. You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as you suggest!!!!! If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department. I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said contradicts it's self. YOU NEED HELP! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message news:gu79c3dgpnto504q73lr253nu23094n2e7@4ax.com... > > > Apparently you condone the actions of your resident Goggleologist > with his rants, raves, lies, crossposting, derogatory remarks toward > the people in the group, and other Idiosyncratic behavior he performs > daily to elevate his preposterous and absurd ego. > He is an absolute Psychopath by definition, which even a laymen can > ascertain just by reading some of the excerpts that have been posted > by others to this group. > > > Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be cured > Norman Doidge > National Post > What, other than our wish that it be otherwise, makes us think that > every human vice is treatable by some form of psychotherapy? > > That this wish is not just naive, but, at times, harmful is > illustrated by a recent Canadian study on group treatment for 238 --- > offenders (rapists, incest offenders) from Warkworth penitentiary in > Ontario. These prisoners included some well-documented psychopaths. > All were taught to "empathize" with victims, and understand their > "offence cycle" as part of treatment. After their release, it was > found that those who had scored highest in terms of "good treatment > behaviour" and who had the highest "empathy" scores were the more > likely to reoffend on release into the community. Hannibal Lecter > Charm School teaches good manners, but not morals. > > The important study by Seto and Barbaree replicated -- unintentionally > -- a 1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more > than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed > in Britain, shows the same. It may be that all psychopaths learn, in > our new ersatz empathy institutes, is how to manipulate better by > appearing more caring. But should we be surprised at the duplicity, > since such treatments are generally mandated? And are such mandated > treatments really psychotherapy? > > Just because a self-described "patient" is in a room with a > self-described "therapist" doesn't mean psychotherapy is going on. > Freud argued psychopaths are untreatable in psychotherapy precisely > because having a conscience is a prerequisite for being able to use > psychotherapy. It is the conscience, and the related capacity for > concern for others, that drives the serious scrutiny of one's motives, > which underlie one's behaviour. Yet psychopaths lack conscience and > concern by definition. > > But these new psychopath-friendly treatments focus only superficially > on motives or matters of good faith by tracking attendance and overt > co-operativeness. Mostly they focus on impulse control and teaching > new behaviours and mindsets. Past naive, they hope that because a > psychopath can appear remorseful, or change his behaviour at any given > moment, his overall mindset or deeper intentions will follow suit. > Three cheers for us: We have invented treatments based on theories > that are less complex than the impoverished minds of psychopaths. > > Psychotherapy doesn't just require a good theory and an astute > clinician. It also requires a patient. The word patient comes from > Latin, and means "to suffer." A patient, by definition, is bothered by > something. Yet most treatments of prisoners originate not from the > prisoner's suffering, but are mandated by the justice system. > Corrections Canada knows many psychopaths will be released into the > community eventually, so it attempts to change them, even though any > psychotherapy for adults that has to be mandated is suspect. > > The "treatment" reported on in the Canadian study lasted 300 sessions. > To their credit, the treaters didn't believe they could work their > miracles overnight. Yet, more and more, mandated treatments are > short-term: eight to 10 sessions. Most people can't quit smoking in > eight to 10 sessions, never mind do a Karla Homolka make over. > > I refer here to the same Karla Homolka who expressed concern for her > boyfriend's happiness by helping him kill her sister and a number of > other young girls, and who is reported recently to have benefited from > a self-esteem course in prison. Such courses, which presume > self-esteem can be taught, generally involve telling a person she can > raise her esteem in her own eyes by interrupting their self-reproaches > or "negative tapes" in her head. > > Applying these self-esteem techniques to psychopaths requires an > ability to get everything about the psychotherapeutic enterprise > backwards. Psychopaths don't need lessons in clearing their > consciences; if anything, it is they who ought to be teaching the rest > of mankind how to be remorseless. > > But mushy-gushy therapy is not just confined to therapists. It is part > of a dangerous denial of the nature of psychopathy and evil that is > sweeping through our correctional services. A recent federal task > force on security, released on Nov. 2, advised getting rid of guards > with guns, unseemly razor-wire fences and intimidating towers around > prisons (National Post, Dec. 15). It even advised that inmates should > carry the keys to their own cells so they could make "responsible > choices." "Restorative justice" based on "a culture of respect" would > be practised. > > So here is a respectful way of framing things. Psychopaths constitute > 1% of the population, but are so talented they conduct 50% of all > crimes. Since it might be hurtful to say they are incurable, let's > just say they are beyond therapy. > > That much said, surprising as it sounds, not all --- offenders are > psychopaths; some, who have been involved in incest, apparently have > low rates of reoffending. Some may benefit, at times, from long-term > intensive interventions and monitoring. But there is no empirical > evidence that --- offenders who are psychopaths benefit from > treatment. > > The federal report is a miscarriage of justice, and a miscarriage of > mercy. It is based on a distortion of religious notions of > forgiveness, political notions of equality, a scientific zeal and an > unwillingness to make basic distinctions. > > In ancient times, Aristotle made those distinctions, and developed a > hierarchy of virtue and vice. At the top of the ladder is the virtuous > person, who only aims toward good things; he is not "conflicted," as > we would say, because there is no war between virtue and vice in his > soul. Next, comes the continent person, who behaves well, but is > always a bit tense because he is struggling, albeit successfully, to > control his vices. Then comes the incontinent person, who knows what > is right, but who frequently slips up, failing in his struggle. At the > bottom of the hierarchy is the brute -- our psychopath. Like the > virtuous person, he, too, is not at war with himself, is not > "conflicted." Unlike the virtuous person, it is vice, and not virtue, > that rules. Aristotle thought there was something different in the > physical makeup of such people. Indeed, recent brain scan evidence > shows some psychopaths do have altered brain structure and > functioning. Our mistake (based on mindless extrapolations of our > notion of political equality) is to collapse all these distinctions > into the continent or incontinent categories. Indeed, we are as irked > by notions of the virtuous as we are of the vicious. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? Yes
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body, Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out! Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court. When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a man?????????? People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a hundred eighty out from any Capricorn. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!! Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo. You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as you suggest!!!!! If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department. I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said contradicts it's self. YOU NEED HELP! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message news:gu79c3dgpnto504q73lr253nu23094n2e7@4ax.com... > > > Apparently you condone the actions of your resident Goggleologist > with his rants, raves, lies, crossposting, derogatory remarks toward > the people in the group, and other Idiosyncratic behavior he performs > daily to elevate his preposterous and absurd ego. > He is an absolute Psychopath by definition, which even a laymen can > ascertain just by reading some of the excerpts that have been posted > by others to this group. > > > Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be cured > Norman Doidge > National Post > What, other than our wish that it be otherwise, makes us think that > every human vice is treatable by some form of psychotherapy? > > That this wish is not just naive, but, at times, harmful is > illustrated by a recent Canadian study on group treatment for 238 --- > offenders (rapists, incest offenders) from Warkworth penitentiary in > Ontario. These prisoners included some well-documented psychopaths. > All were taught to "empathize" with victims, and understand their > "offence cycle" as part of treatment. After their release, it was > found that those who had scored highest in terms of "good treatment > behaviour" and who had the highest "empathy" scores were the more > likely to reoffend on release into the community. Hannibal Lecter > Charm School teaches good manners, but not morals. > > The important study by Seto and Barbaree replicated -- unintentionally > -- a 1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more > than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed > in Britain, shows the same. It may be that all psychopaths learn, in > our new ersatz empathy institutes, is how to manipulate better by > appearing more caring. But should we be surprised at the duplicity, > since such treatments are generally mandated? And are such mandated > treatments really psychotherapy? > > Just because a self-described "patient" is in a room with a > self-described "therapist" doesn't mean psychotherapy is going on. > Freud argued psychopaths are untreatable in psychotherapy precisely > because having a conscience is a prerequisite for being able to use > psychotherapy. It is the conscience, and the related capacity for > concern for others, that drives the serious scrutiny of one's motives, > which underlie one's behaviour. Yet psychopaths lack conscience and > concern by definition. > > But these new psychopath-friendly treatments focus only superficially > on motives or matters of good faith by tracking attendance and overt > co-operativeness. Mostly they focus on impulse control and teaching > new behaviours and mindsets. Past naive, they hope that because a > psychopath can appear remorseful, or change his behaviour at any given > moment, his overall mindset or deeper intentions will follow suit. > Three cheers for us: We have invented treatments based on theories > that are less complex than the impoverished minds of psychopaths. > > Psychotherapy doesn't just require a good theory and an astute > clinician. It also requires a patient. The word patient comes from > Latin, and means "to suffer." A patient, by definition, is bothered by > something. Yet most treatments of prisoners originate not from the > prisoner's suffering, but are mandated by the justice system. > Corrections Canada knows many psychopaths will be released into the > community eventually, so it attempts to change them, even though any > psychotherapy for adults that has to be mandated is suspect. > > The "treatment" reported on in the Canadian study lasted 300 sessions. > To their credit, the treaters didn't believe they could work their > miracles overnight. Yet, more and more, mandated treatments are > short-term: eight to 10 sessions. Most people can't quit smoking in > eight to 10 sessions, never mind do a Karla Homolka make over. > > I refer here to the same Karla Homolka who expressed concern for her > boyfriend's happiness by helping him kill her sister and a number of > other young girls, and who is reported recently to have benefited from > a self-esteem course in prison. Such courses, which presume > self-esteem can be taught, generally involve telling a person she can > raise her esteem in her own eyes by interrupting their self-reproaches > or "negative tapes" in her head. > > Applying these self-esteem techniques to psychopaths requires an > ability to get everything about the psychotherapeutic enterprise > backwards. Psychopaths don't need lessons in clearing their > consciences; if anything, it is they who ought to be teaching the rest > of mankind how to be remorseless. > > But mushy-gushy therapy is not just confined to therapists. It is part > of a dangerous denial of the nature of psychopathy and evil that is > sweeping through our correctional services. A recent federal task > force on security, released on Nov. 2, advised getting rid of guards > with guns, unseemly razor-wire fences and intimidating towers around > prisons (National Post, Dec. 15). It even advised that inmates should > carry the keys to their own cells so they could make "responsible > choices." "Restorative justice" based on "a culture of respect" would > be practised. > > So here is a respectful way of framing things. Psychopaths constitute > 1% of the population, but are so talented they conduct 50% of all > crimes. Since it might be hurtful to say they are incurable, let's > just say they are beyond therapy. > > That much said, surprising as it sounds, not all --- offenders are > psychopaths; some, who have been involved in incest, apparently have > low rates of reoffending. Some may benefit, at times, from long-term > intensive interventions and monitoring. But there is no empirical > evidence that --- offenders who are psychopaths benefit from > treatment. > > The federal report is a miscarriage of justice, and a miscarriage of > mercy. It is based on a distortion of religious notions of > forgiveness, political notions of equality, a scientific zeal and an > unwillingness to make basic distinctions. > > In ancient times, Aristotle made those distinctions, and developed a > hierarchy of virtue and vice. At the top of the ladder is the virtuous > person, who only aims toward good things; he is not "conflicted," as > we would say, because there is no war between virtue and vice in his > soul. Next, comes the continent person, who behaves well, but is > always a bit tense because he is struggling, albeit successfully, to > control his vices. Then comes the incontinent person, who knows what > is right, but who frequently slips up, failing in his struggle. At the > bottom of the hierarchy is the brute -- our psychopath. Like the > virtuous person, he, too, is not at war with himself, is not > "conflicted." Unlike the virtuous person, it is vice, and not virtue, > that rules. Aristotle thought there was something different in the > physical makeup of such people. Indeed, recent brain scan evidence > shows some psychopaths do have altered brain structure and > functioning. Our mistake (based on mindless extrapolations of our > notion of political equality) is to collapse all these distinctions > into the continent or incontinent categories. Indeed, we are as irked > by notions of the virtuous as we are of the vicious. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? Yes
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body, Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless! Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it! But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com, fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net, abuse@teranews.com for forgery. I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out! Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your other accusations would be thrown out of court. When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a man?????????? People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a hundred eighty out from any Capricorn. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!! Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo. You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less any Vietnam, as you suggest!!!!! If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego Sheriffs Department. I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said contradicts it's self. YOU NEED HELP! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "24BitŪ" <24Bit@Ur.Asylm.org> wrote in message news:gu79c3dgpnto504q73lr253nu23094n2e7@4ax.com... > > > Apparently you condone the actions of your resident Goggleologist > with his rants, raves, lies, crossposting, derogatory remarks toward > the people in the group, and other Idiosyncratic behavior he performs > daily to elevate his preposterous and absurd ego. > He is an absolute Psychopath by definition, which even a laymen can > ascertain just by reading some of the excerpts that have been posted > by others to this group. > > > Beyond therapy: Some evil can't be cured > Norman Doidge > National Post > What, other than our wish that it be otherwise, makes us think that > every human vice is treatable by some form of psychotherapy? > > That this wish is not just naive, but, at times, harmful is > illustrated by a recent Canadian study on group treatment for 238 --- > offenders (rapists, incest offenders) from Warkworth penitentiary in > Ontario. These prisoners included some well-documented psychopaths. > All were taught to "empathize" with victims, and understand their > "offence cycle" as part of treatment. After their release, it was > found that those who had scored highest in terms of "good treatment > behaviour" and who had the highest "empathy" scores were the more > likely to reoffend on release into the community. Hannibal Lecter > Charm School teaches good manners, but not morals. > > The important study by Seto and Barbaree replicated -- unintentionally > -- a 1992 Canadian study that found treated psychopaths reoffend more > than psychopaths who are not treated. A larger study, just completed > in Britain, shows the same. It may be that all psychopaths learn, in > our new ersatz empathy institutes, is how to manipulate better by > appearing more caring. But should we be surprised at the duplicity, > since such treatments are generally mandated? And are such mandated > treatments really psychotherapy? > > Just because a self-described "patient" is in a room with a > self-described "therapist" doesn't mean psychotherapy is going on. > Freud argued psychopaths are untreatable in psychotherapy precisely > because having a conscience is a prerequisite for being able to use > psychotherapy. It is the conscience, and the related capacity for > concern for others, that drives the serious scrutiny of one's motives, > which underlie one's behaviour. Yet psychopaths lack conscience and > concern by definition. > > But these new psychopath-friendly treatments focus only superficially > on motives or matters of good faith by tracking attendance and overt > co-operativeness. Mostly they focus on impulse control and teaching > new behaviours and mindsets. Past naive, they hope that because a > psychopath can appear remorseful, or change his behaviour at any given > moment, his overall mindset or deeper intentions will follow suit. > Three cheers for us: We have invented treatments based on theories > that are less complex than the impoverished minds of psychopaths. > > Psychotherapy doesn't just require a good theory and an astute > clinician. It also requires a patient. The word patient comes from > Latin, and means "to suffer." A patient, by definition, is bothered by > something. Yet most treatments of prisoners originate not from the > prisoner's suffering, but are mandated by the justice system. > Corrections Canada knows many psychopaths will be released into the > community eventually, so it attempts to change them, even though any > psychotherapy for adults that has to be mandated is suspect. > > The "treatment" reported on in the Canadian study lasted 300 sessions. > To their credit, the treaters didn't believe they could work their > miracles overnight. Yet, more and more, mandated treatments are > short-term: eight to 10 sessions. Most people can't quit smoking in > eight to 10 sessions, never mind do a Karla Homolka make over. > > I refer here to the same Karla Homolka who expressed concern for her > boyfriend's happiness by helping him kill her sister and a number of > other young girls, and who is reported recently to have benefited from > a self-esteem course in prison. Such courses, which presume > self-esteem can be taught, generally involve telling a person she can > raise her esteem in her own eyes by interrupting their self-reproaches > or "negative tapes" in her head. > > Applying these self-esteem techniques to psychopaths requires an > ability to get everything about the psychotherapeutic enterprise > backwards. Psychopaths don't need lessons in clearing their > consciences; if anything, it is they who ought to be teaching the rest > of mankind how to be remorseless. > > But mushy-gushy therapy is not just confined to therapists. It is part > of a dangerous denial of the nature of psychopathy and evil that is > sweeping through our correctional services. A recent federal task > force on security, released on Nov. 2, advised getting rid of guards > with guns, unseemly razor-wire fences and intimidating towers around > prisons (National Post, Dec. 15). It even advised that inmates should > carry the keys to their own cells so they could make "responsible > choices." "Restorative justice" based on "a culture of respect" would > be practised. > > So here is a respectful way of framing things. Psychopaths constitute > 1% of the population, but are so talented they conduct 50% of all > crimes. Since it might be hurtful to say they are incurable, let's > just say they are beyond therapy. > > That much said, surprising as it sounds, not all --- offenders are > psychopaths; some, who have been involved in incest, apparently have > low rates of reoffending. Some may benefit, at times, from long-term > intensive interventions and monitoring. But there is no empirical > evidence that --- offenders who are psychopaths benefit from > treatment. > > The federal report is a miscarriage of justice, and a miscarriage of > mercy. It is based on a distortion of religious notions of > forgiveness, political notions of equality, a scientific zeal and an > unwillingness to make basic distinctions. > > In ancient times, Aristotle made those distinctions, and developed a > hierarchy of virtue and vice. At the top of the ladder is the virtuous > person, who only aims toward good things; he is not "conflicted," as > we would say, because there is no war between virtue and vice in his > soul. Next, comes the continent person, who behaves well, but is > always a bit tense because he is struggling, albeit successfully, to > control his vices. Then comes the incontinent person, who knows what > is right, but who frequently slips up, failing in his struggle. At the > bottom of the hierarchy is the brute -- our psychopath. Like the > virtuous person, he, too, is not at war with himself, is not > "conflicted." Unlike the virtuous person, it is vice, and not virtue, > that rules. Aristotle thought there was something different in the > physical makeup of such people. Indeed, recent brain scan evidence > shows some psychopaths do have altered brain structure and > functioning. Our mistake (based on mindless extrapolations of our > notion of political equality) is to collapse all these distinctions > into the continent or incontinent categories. Indeed, we are as irked > by notions of the virtuous as we are of the vicious. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? OF COURSE.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:31:35 -0700, L.W. (Penelope) ------ III wrote:
> as most everything you have said > contradicts it's self Hardly. You're just too dim to get it. |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? OF COURSE.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:31:35 -0700, L.W. (Penelope) ------ III wrote:
> as most everything you have said > contradicts it's self Hardly. You're just too dim to get it. |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? OF COURSE.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:31:35 -0700, L.W. (Penelope) ------ III wrote:
> as most everything you have said > contradicts it's self Hardly. You're just too dim to get it. |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? OF COURSE.
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:31:35 -0700, L.W. (Penelope) ------ III wrote:
> as most everything you have said > contradicts it's self Hardly. You're just too dim to get it. |
Re: Do you really think Llewellen Williams Hughes III is a Psychopath? OF COURSE.
This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups so they may to see what an a**hole you, aka SW really is!!!!! God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "c" <c@operamail.com> wrote in message news:mF9xi.65564$fJ5.35856@pd7urf1no... > > > Hardly. > > You're just too dim to get it. > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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