Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

Hello All,

I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
here's what I did so far, and my question:

-I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
-checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
on (at least one function's working)
-hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere


Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
column switch assembly that controls the flashers?

Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,

Matt

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

I too this weekend delved into the fun that is a TJ turn-signal
switch . . . If you end up having to replace the turn-signal/hazard/hi-
beam switch, I believe that it is seemingly the same switch found in
95-?? dodge/plymouth neons. I noticed when I got my TJ that it had the
same-looking and same functioning turn-signal stalk as my wife's neon.
I remember thinking it odd when I first drove her neon that you had to
press the stalk toward the front of the vehicle for the hi-beams to
stay on, .. up to that point I had always pulled back to turn them on.
Then when I got my TJ I thought hmm.. that looks familiar!

TJ Switch: ($72 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWD1V

Neon Switch: ($25 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...spagenameZWD1V

The problem with my switch was the fact that I inadvertently gave it a
bath last summer (which also killed my radio) and ever since, I've had
to press the stalk in toward the steering column when I push it down
for the left-turn signal to actually work. After cleaning the contacts
inside the switch however, things seem to be working now.. for how
long, I don't know.

There's a lot going on inside that switch. If you take it apart, be
careful to not lose the parts that will fall out... I'm still trying
to figure out where this 1 1/4" long spring was supposed to
go . . . :) stared at the dang thing for 30 minutes trying to find a
place for it, .. .put it back together without it, and everything
works . . . .so far.

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

I too this weekend delved into the fun that is a TJ turn-signal
switch . . . If you end up having to replace the turn-signal/hazard/hi-
beam switch, I believe that it is seemingly the same switch found in
95-?? dodge/plymouth neons. I noticed when I got my TJ that it had the
same-looking and same functioning turn-signal stalk as my wife's neon.
I remember thinking it odd when I first drove her neon that you had to
press the stalk toward the front of the vehicle for the hi-beams to
stay on, .. up to that point I had always pulled back to turn them on.
Then when I got my TJ I thought hmm.. that looks familiar!

TJ Switch: ($72 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWD1V

Neon Switch: ($25 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...spagenameZWD1V

The problem with my switch was the fact that I inadvertently gave it a
bath last summer (which also killed my radio) and ever since, I've had
to press the stalk in toward the steering column when I push it down
for the left-turn signal to actually work. After cleaning the contacts
inside the switch however, things seem to be working now.. for how
long, I don't know.

There's a lot going on inside that switch. If you take it apart, be
careful to not lose the parts that will fall out... I'm still trying
to figure out where this 1 1/4" long spring was supposed to
go . . . :) stared at the dang thing for 30 minutes trying to find a
place for it, .. .put it back together without it, and everything
works . . . .so far.

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

I too this weekend delved into the fun that is a TJ turn-signal
switch . . . If you end up having to replace the turn-signal/hazard/hi-
beam switch, I believe that it is seemingly the same switch found in
95-?? dodge/plymouth neons. I noticed when I got my TJ that it had the
same-looking and same functioning turn-signal stalk as my wife's neon.
I remember thinking it odd when I first drove her neon that you had to
press the stalk toward the front of the vehicle for the hi-beams to
stay on, .. up to that point I had always pulled back to turn them on.
Then when I got my TJ I thought hmm.. that looks familiar!

TJ Switch: ($72 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEEP-...spagenameZWD1V

Neon Switch: ($25 on ebay)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...spagenameZWD1V

The problem with my switch was the fact that I inadvertently gave it a
bath last summer (which also killed my radio) and ever since, I've had
to press the stalk in toward the steering column when I push it down
for the left-turn signal to actually work. After cleaning the contacts
inside the switch however, things seem to be working now.. for how
long, I don't know.

There's a lot going on inside that switch. If you take it apart, be
careful to not lose the parts that will fall out... I'm still trying
to figure out where this 1 1/4" long spring was supposed to
go . . . :) stared at the dang thing for 30 minutes trying to find a
place for it, .. .put it back together without it, and everything
works . . . .so far.

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

This chart is out of the FSM if you want to check the switch:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1...chcheckbv6.jpg

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

This chart is out of the FSM if you want to check the switch:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1...chcheckbv6.jpg

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

On Mar 11, 4:37 pm, "mhamm...@nospamyahoo.com" <mhamm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I checked through all old topics here on this subject and read them
> before posting this. I have a 99 TJ Sport. For a long time, when I hit
> the brakes the left turn signal light would come on steady with the
> brake light. This stopped out of the blue. NOW, the flashers do
> nothing. When I move the stalk they don't click, come on, nothing.
> here's what I did so far, and my question:
>
> -I checked all fuses including the PDC ones
> -checked and confirmed that the stalk still makes the high beams come
> on (at least one function's working)
> -hazards work fine, no bulbs are out anywhere
>
> Will I need a new flasher switch assembly in the column/stalk end, or
> just a new flasher unit? Does the high beam control work off the same
> column switch assembly that controls the flashers?
>
> Thanks and hope everyone's had a good weekend,
>
> Matt

This chart is out of the FSM if you want to check the switch:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1...chcheckbv6.jpg

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

Thanks a lot for the helpful suggestions, guys! I'll definitely check
out that part. I was sure hoping it was just a flasher unit, LOL.
Another weird twist to this: I washed the Jeep yesterday and the
flashers briefly worked. Bad ground, I wonder? Gremlins?

Thanks again,
Matt

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

Thanks a lot for the helpful suggestions, guys! I'll definitely check
out that part. I was sure hoping it was just a flasher unit, LOL.
Another weird twist to this: I washed the Jeep yesterday and the
flashers briefly worked. Bad ground, I wonder? Gremlins?

Thanks again,
Matt

Re: Different Type Of Flasher Problem
 

Thanks a lot for the helpful suggestions, guys! I'll definitely check
out that part. I was sure hoping it was just a flasher unit, LOL.
Another weird twist to this: I washed the Jeep yesterday and the
flashers briefly worked. Bad ground, I wonder? Gremlins?

Thanks again,
Matt