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abomb69 05-21-2007 08:47 PM

difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?



Spdloader 05-21-2007 09:09 PM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 

"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>


Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-21-2007 09:09 PM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 

"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>


Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-21-2007 09:09 PM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 

"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>


Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.

Spdloader



Spdloader 05-21-2007 09:09 PM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 

"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net ...
> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>


Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.

Spdloader



SnoMan 05-21-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>

>
>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>
>Spdloader
>



The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
rotors or warped rotors too.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-21-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>

>
>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>
>Spdloader
>



The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
rotors or warped rotors too.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-21-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>

>
>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>
>Spdloader
>



The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
rotors or warped rotors too.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-21-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>

>
>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>
>Spdloader
>



The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
rotors or warped rotors too.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

abomb69 05-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
I want to save money.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:e6l4535hdgcjomjkaiiq61gpnnrp1rsnef@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.n et...
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>>

>>
>>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>>
>>Spdloader
>>

>
>
> The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
> and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
> replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
> do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
> hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
> them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
> miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
> rotors or warped rotors too.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




abomb69 05-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
I want to save money.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:e6l4535hdgcjomjkaiiq61gpnnrp1rsnef@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.n et...
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>>

>>
>>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>>
>>Spdloader
>>

>
>
> The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
> and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
> replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
> do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
> hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
> them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
> miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
> rotors or warped rotors too.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




abomb69 05-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
I want to save money.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:e6l4535hdgcjomjkaiiq61gpnnrp1rsnef@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.n et...
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>>

>>
>>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>>
>>Spdloader
>>

>
>
> The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
> and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
> replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
> do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
> hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
> them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
> miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
> rotors or warped rotors too.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




abomb69 05-22-2007 08:41 AM

Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
I want to save money.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:e6l4535hdgcjomjkaiiq61gpnnrp1rsnef@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 21:09:19 -0400, "Spdloader"
> <askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:m2r4i.1548$C96.222@newssvr23.news.prodigy.n et...
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?
>>>

>>
>>Not if you tow, but otherwise, yes.
>>
>>Spdloader
>>

>
>
> The only problem with hard pad is that they can change pedal effort
> and they are very hard on rotors and typically require rotor
> replacement with every brake job. Some consider this the norm while I
> do not. I get 200K out of rotors with no problems because I do not use
> hard pads and take off factory pads when I buy a vehicle. I may change
> them a bit more often but I am not upset if my pads do not last 60K
> miles or more. Cheaper to replace pads a bit more often than pads and
> rotors or warped rotors too.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com




philthy 05-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
stick with the semi metallic pads

abomb69 wrote:

> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?



philthy 05-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
stick with the semi metallic pads

abomb69 wrote:

> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?



philthy 05-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
stick with the semi metallic pads

abomb69 wrote:

> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?



philthy 05-22-2007 09:09 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
stick with the semi metallic pads

abomb69 wrote:

> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?



SnoMan 05-22-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:41:50 -0400, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net>
wrote:

>so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
>I want to save money.



I would and if you want to try ceramic wait until you start out with
fresh rotors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-22-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:41:50 -0400, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net>
wrote:

>so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
>I want to save money.



I would and if you want to try ceramic wait until you start out with
fresh rotors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-22-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:41:50 -0400, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net>
wrote:

>so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
>I want to save money.



I would and if you want to try ceramic wait until you start out with
fresh rotors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 05-22-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
On Tue, 22 May 2007 08:41:50 -0400, "abomb69" <abuse@verizon.net>
wrote:

>so I should stick with semi-metallic pads with my old rotors for now then if
>I want to save money.



I would and if you want to try ceramic wait until you start out with
fresh rotors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

abomb69 05-23-2007 09:41 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.



"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
> stick with the semi metallic pads
>
> abomb69 wrote:
>
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>




abomb69 05-23-2007 09:41 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.



"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
> stick with the semi metallic pads
>
> abomb69 wrote:
>
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>




abomb69 05-23-2007 09:41 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.



"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
> stick with the semi metallic pads
>
> abomb69 wrote:
>
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>




abomb69 05-23-2007 09:41 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.



"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
> stick with the semi metallic pads
>
> abomb69 wrote:
>
>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>




Mike Romain 05-23-2007 10:25 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
Personally, I like to be able to stop when 'I' want to, no matter how
steep I am pointing down or how big my tires are so I go with the
highest friction pad and shoe I can find. This also normally translates
to the cheapest on the shelf also provided the cheapest have rivets
holding the pad onto the backing plate. I have had far too many glued
pads fall off over the years so stick with rivets.

My brakes on both my Jeeps have worn down very nicely over the years
without ever warping a rotor or drum. I only need to replace hard parts
if something breaks, not from over wear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

abomb69 wrote:
> I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
> standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.
>
>
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
>> stick with the semi metallic pads
>>
>> abomb69 wrote:
>>
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>
>


Mike Romain 05-23-2007 10:25 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
Personally, I like to be able to stop when 'I' want to, no matter how
steep I am pointing down or how big my tires are so I go with the
highest friction pad and shoe I can find. This also normally translates
to the cheapest on the shelf also provided the cheapest have rivets
holding the pad onto the backing plate. I have had far too many glued
pads fall off over the years so stick with rivets.

My brakes on both my Jeeps have worn down very nicely over the years
without ever warping a rotor or drum. I only need to replace hard parts
if something breaks, not from over wear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

abomb69 wrote:
> I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
> standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.
>
>
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
>> stick with the semi metallic pads
>>
>> abomb69 wrote:
>>
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>
>


Mike Romain 05-23-2007 10:25 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
Personally, I like to be able to stop when 'I' want to, no matter how
steep I am pointing down or how big my tires are so I go with the
highest friction pad and shoe I can find. This also normally translates
to the cheapest on the shelf also provided the cheapest have rivets
holding the pad onto the backing plate. I have had far too many glued
pads fall off over the years so stick with rivets.

My brakes on both my Jeeps have worn down very nicely over the years
without ever warping a rotor or drum. I only need to replace hard parts
if something breaks, not from over wear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

abomb69 wrote:
> I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
> standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.
>
>
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
>> stick with the semi metallic pads
>>
>> abomb69 wrote:
>>
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>
>


Mike Romain 05-23-2007 10:25 AM

Re: difference between ceramic and semi-metallic
 
Personally, I like to be able to stop when 'I' want to, no matter how
steep I am pointing down or how big my tires are so I go with the
highest friction pad and shoe I can find. This also normally translates
to the cheapest on the shelf also provided the cheapest have rivets
holding the pad onto the backing plate. I have had far too many glued
pads fall off over the years so stick with rivets.

My brakes on both my Jeeps have worn down very nicely over the years
without ever warping a rotor or drum. I only need to replace hard parts
if something breaks, not from over wear.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

abomb69 wrote:
> I will probally just buy the autozone duralast gold brand instead of the
> standard lifetime warranty duralast pad.
>
>
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4652EBA7.43902E3C@cac.net...
>> stick with the semi metallic pads
>>
>> abomb69 wrote:
>>
>>> What is the difference between ceramic and semi-metallic pads? and would
>>> they be a good upgrade for my 93 jeep cherokee?

>
>



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